<![CDATA[A continued call for help. Surah 111. Abu-Lahab]]>I have made the title of this mail as "a continued call for help". This is because I had sent a mail before calling for help, to my close acquaintances, with translation of Surah Fatiha. In response to previous mail some friend suggested that before I go any further I should try to translate some smaller Surahs of Quran. This is an attempt based on the advice. I consider myself a very humble student of Lost language of Quran. Hence, I keep learning more every day and this leads to better understanding of message every day. As I learn and understand I will continue to improve understanding. As a student it is also my understanding that the division of Quranic script into Surahs and Ayas is later phenomenon. Originally the whole text was one from start to end. This division was done for reference purposes, i.e., to refer to certain portion of the text. Hence, it is okay for this purpose as long one realizes this. However, to treat Surahs as chapters of modern book writing is not appropriate. As every so to called Surah is connected to the concept in verse before. I realized this more when I attempted Surah Abe Lahab. Looking for help to join hand in enhancing the understanding of divine message.

Badar Kanwar

Surah 111. Abu-Lahab

One who severed utterly from bond of union with the rope (Quran). He suffered loss of diminution and perished for ever. Such a man?s refusal will lead him to be in a state of like burning with thirst, being in state of loss and as dead

Such a person will not profit at all. One who is a proud and heeds himself high for whatever wealth he has collected and gained.

Such a person has deluded and deceived himself and caused to fall into destruction. So kindle a fire to ransom yourself from evil of such men. Whose refusal will leads them to be in state of like burning with thirst, being in state of loss and as dead?

Pity yourself not, by passing beyond the right and straight course for you. That is the course in my decree towards you. The one that incites urges and instigates.

On account of this, to save your neck Now tie yourself with rope from me (Quran), to continue your journey laboriously and energetically.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/topic/10482/a-continued-call-for-help.-surah-111.-abu-lahabRSS for NodeThu, 03 Sep 2026 22:32:46 GMTWed, 24 Sep 2025 09:31:32 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to A continued call for help. Surah 111. Abu-Lahab on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:53 GMT]]>Just one more comment your break down of words, is absolutely linguistically correct. However, you have added your understanding of verse in the translation below. Not incorrect, but not in the actual script either. Thanks again.

Badar

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169372https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169372Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A continued call for help. Surah 111. Abu-Lahab on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:49 GMT]]>My the Rab shower his blessing thousand times and over again for your effort. I appreciate you effort greatly, English of present time is much different than hundred years ago. Hence need for simple English

Badar

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169368https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169368Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A continued call for help. Surah 111. Abu-Lahab on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:39 GMT]]>An excellent attempt to translate. There is some explanation here in addition to the translation as I see.
I checked the lexicon for the words in the firsr line

Tab Suffering loss to a degree of perishing
Bat Becoming unable to proceed with the journey ( of life)
Yada for ever, (as it is not yad with a gezm which would have meant hand otherwise)
Abi disagreeing and refusing ( with the decree of our Creator here)
Lahab Burning with thirst
wa tab and he( or such nation) will suffer and perish.

So in simple english, is it meaning??

Those people ( or nation) who refuse and disagree to follow the command of our creator, they will eventually suffer a major loss to a degree that they will perish and will be

like those who are burning with thirst ( for lack of truth ) and they will be unable to continue the life journey ( in comfort ) for ever. And they will perish.

Regards
Knowledge thirsty

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169357https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169357Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A continued call for help. Surah 111. Abu-Lahab on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:06 GMT]]>Thanks. Trying to call for help to have discussion to try understand the lost language of Quran. Calling for help to critically evalute the script of Quran and method of script writting.

Badar

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169314https://forum.free-minds.org/post/169314Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:44:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to A continued call for help. Surah 111. Abu-Lahab on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 16:42:02 GMT]]>Badar Kanwar

Surah 111. Abu-Lahab

One who severed utterly from bond of union with the rope (Quran). He suffered loss of diminution and perished for ever. Such a man?s refusal will lead him to be in a state of like burning with thirst, being in state of loss and as dead

Such a person will not profit at all. One who is a proud and heeds himself high for whatever wealth he has collected and gained.

Such a person has deluded and deceived himself and caused to fall into destruction. So kindle a fire to ransom yourself from evil of such men. Whose refusal will leads them to be in state of like burning with thirst, being in state of loss and as dead?

Pity yourself not, by passing beyond the right and straight course for you. That is the course in my decree towards you. The one that incites urges and instigates.

On account of this, to save your neck Now tie yourself with rope from me (Quran), to continue your journey laboriously and energetically.

Peace
As an Arabic speaker, I think the verses more accurate word by word translation is

Perish the hands of the Father of Flame! Perish he! (1) No profit to him from all his wealth, and all his gains! (2) Burnt soon will he be in a Fire of blazing Flame! (3) His wife shall carry the (crackling) wood as fuel! (4) A twisted rope of palm-leaf fibre round her (own) neck! (5)

Now, what are you trying to seek, as help, when posting this thread? Sorry I couldn't understand what you are asking about?

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