<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Sadly has a lot of mistranslations. Pickthal, Yusuf Ali, and Monshin Khan's versions are alike, but Shakir's for some reason, has many (disturbing) mistranslations.</p>
<p dir="auto">For example, he translates "khimar" in 2431 to "head coverings". As if placing "head coverings" over your breasts makes sense. This is an example showing how hadith makes you a retard.</p>
<p dir="auto">He also translates "Ihda" in 7435 to "misfortunes", when all other versions, including Khalifa's, translates it to "signs" or "miracles".</p>
<p dir="auto">There are of course many others, but this is why I'm not reading Shakir's anymore. Apparently, Shakir is the only English Quran translator that either didn't know Arabic or English to well. I believer the latter is right.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/topic/11329/muhammad-habib-shakir-s-version</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 18:56:28 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.free-minds.org/topic/11329.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 09:40:56 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:55:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">You didn't watch the whole thing...I thought you did.</p>
<p dir="auto">Off-topic ftw voodoo</p>
<p dir="auto">i did watch it all but thought it was just a small sneeky peek n not the whole thing</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184548</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184548</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:55:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:55:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">You didn't watch the whole thing...I thought you did.</p>
<p dir="auto">Off-topic ftw voodoo</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184493</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184493</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:55:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:53:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Lmao! Mickey's awesome...<em>hugs Mickey</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Mickey's the Disney badass of Kingdom Hearts. He was about to climb up those heavens and pwn the bald guy. jedi voodoo</p>
<p dir="auto">What's wierd is that video has written it (put fmt=18 to see in hi-def) when that video was the hi-def version...brickwall</p>
<p dir="auto">o I want to watch it all now!<br />
Funny how this has nothing to do with the thread LOL</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184394</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184394</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:53:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:53:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Lmao! Mickey's awesome...<em>hugs Mickey</em></p>
<p dir="auto">Mickey's the Disney badass of Kingdom Hearts. He was about to climb up those heavens and pwn the bald guy. jedi voodoo</p>
<p dir="auto">What's wierd is that video has written it (put fmt=18 to see in hi-def) when that video was the hi-def version...brickwall</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184374</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184374</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:53:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:52:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Chocolate lol...it's from this http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlKMFHL28pQ&amp;fmt=18</p>
<p dir="auto">206, but I recommend watching it all. Very good quality for youtube.</p>
<p dir="auto">It was so scary &amp;<br />
What was Mickey Mouse doing there?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184320</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184320</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:52:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:52:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Chocolate lol...it's from this http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlKMFHL28pQ&amp;fmt=18</p>
<p dir="auto">206, but I recommend watching it all. Very good quality for youtube.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184299</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184299</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:52:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I hope he doesn't mind me addressing him as such jedi</p>
<p dir="auto">At first I thought your pic was chocolate, but it looks like a man too so I'm going to call you the chocolate man</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184205</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184205</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I hope he doesn't mind me addressing him as such jedi</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184199</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184199</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I was asking penguin smacker</p>
<p dir="auto">Penguin smacker! LOL<br />
I know you were asking Bigmo )</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184186</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184186</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I was asking penguin smacker</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184182</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184182</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:51:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">So..the Arabic is not saying to do it in 3 steps?</p>
<p dir="auto">is the MMA "the right hands possess" or something like that? The verse telling you who you can have sex with. I dunno lol.</p>
<p dir="auto">I'm so sure the 3 steps are in the Quran ???<br />
MMA translated literally is right hands possess.<br />
They are mentioned a few times in the Quran. I think you're thinkning of the verse telling you who you can marry. Its supposedly someone who is not quite your wife so you can't have sex with her, I think. I've read too many opinions on the issue so I am not entirely sure what MMA is and can't give you a definite answer.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184149</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184149</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yusuf Ali I think was an Ahmedi while Shakir seems more Salafi oriented. All of them translate verses based on Sunni interpretation regardless. Like they way the say first, then and finally beat them lightly. Something taht does not exist in the Arabic original version. They also say captives of war regarding Ma Malakat Aymanukum, also something thats does not exist in the Arabic version.</p>
<p dir="auto">So..the Arabic is not saying to do it in 3 steps?</p>
<p dir="auto">is the MMA "the right hands possess" or something like that? The verse telling you who you can have sex with. I dunno lol.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184148</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184148</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yusuf Ali I think was an Ahmedi while Shakir seems more Salafi oriented. All of them translate verses based on Sunni interpretation regardless. Like they way the say first, then and finally beat them lightly. Something taht does not exist in the Arabic original version. They also say captives of war regarding Ma Malakat Aymanukum, also something thats does not exist in the Arabic version.</p>
<p dir="auto">Peace</p>
<p dir="auto">Even Rashad Khalifa translated MMA as slave.<br />
Luckily I can read Arabic, but a lot of people can't.<br />
Can anyone recommend a reliable translation?</p>
<p dir="auto">God bless</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184139</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184139</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nsws1988]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Sadly has a lot of mistranslations. Pickthal, Yusuf Ali, and Monshin Khan's versions are alike, but Shakir's for some reason, has many (disturbing) mistranslations.</p>
<p dir="auto">For example, he translates "khimar" in 2431 to "head coverings". As if placing "head coverings" over your breasts makes sense. This is an example showing how hadith makes you a retard.</p>
<p dir="auto">He also translates "Ihda" in 7435 to "misfortunes", when all other versions, including Khalifa's, translates it to "signs" or "miracles".</p>
<p dir="auto">There are of course many others, but this is why I'm not reading Shakir's anymore. Apparently, Shakir is the only English Quran translator that either didn't know Arabic or English to well. I believer the latter is right.</p>
<p dir="auto">Yusuf Ali I think was an Ahmedi while Shakir seems more Salafi oriented. All of them translate verses based on Sunni interpretation regardless. Like they way the say first, then and finally beat them lightly. Something taht does not exist in the Arabic original version. They also say captives of war regarding Ma Malakat Aymanukum, also something thats does not exist in the Arabic version.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184073</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184073</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bigmo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:50:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">^Which just proves the dude was a hadithist, plain and simple.</p>
<p dir="auto">I also came back in this to say that Shakir is not the most accurate, and I can argue about this now because I just happened to find another instance of pure...</p>
<p dir="auto"><em>facepalm</em></p>
<p dir="auto">I was looking through this and read that Shakir wrote "gave to Dawood" instead of "gave to Dawood psalms" http//www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=4&amp;translator=3&amp;mac=</p>
<p dir="auto">But my home copy shows "pslams" in it. Plus as you can see in the link there's no period at the end so it's obviously an e-typo. That or my computer is screwy again.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anyway a side note, it's interesting how traditional muslims view musical instruments (and music in general) as haram when the Quran says that David was given Pslams and even in the "divine" hadith it says something similar.</p>
<p dir="auto">Narrated Abu Musa that the Prophet said to him' "O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David.'"</p>
<p dir="auto">The only thing that fights music, in the traditional muslim world, is hadith that conflict with the one above and brainless scholars who misinterpret verses from the Quran to make people lives hell.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184068</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184068</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8900.msg196721#msg196721</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184058</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184058</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wakas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">That's news to me. The thing that is most disturbing is his translation of "khimar", from all that I've read from his. Can't say I've been reading too much Quran with the kind of schedule I've had.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184055</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/184055</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Meteora]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Muhammad Habib Shakir&#x27;s Version on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 19:49:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Sadly has a lot of mistranslations. Pickthal, Yusuf Ali, and Monshin Khan's versions are alike, but Shakir's for some reason, has many (disturbing) mistranslations.</p>
<p dir="auto">For example, he translates "khimar" in 2431 to "head coverings". As if placing "head coverings" over your breasts makes sense. This is an example showing how hadith makes you a retard.</p>
<p dir="auto">He also translates "Ihda" in 7435 to "misfortunes", when all other versions, including Khalifa's, translates it to "signs" or "miracles".</p>
<p dir="auto">There are of course many others, but this is why I'm not reading Shakir's anymore. Apparently, Shakir is the only English Quran translator that either didn't know Arabic or English to well. I believer the latter is right.</p>
<p dir="auto">Peace brother</p>
<p dir="auto">I have an opposite opinion, During my study , I have found shakir's to be closer to the literal meanings overall, and hence better than the rest. May be a few occasions that you came across, were just a bad/rare coincidence.</p>
<p dir="auto">siki</p>
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