<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical with all sensory organs</p>
<p dir="auto">Refute, if you can.</p>
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i was speak about</p>
<p dir="auto">537 Wahuwa bial-ofuqi al-aAAla</p>
<p dir="auto">For Muhammad the exalted Allah makes a different between the Prophets, o.k, but we we should not, or??<br />
Salam peace</p>
<p dir="auto">How can we?<br />
We simply need to believe that which Allah the Exalted has revealed in the verbal passages of Qur'aan. Those who wish not, it is their freedom of choice.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285966</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285966</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Dear Mazhar<br />
i was speak about</p>
<p dir="auto">537 Wahuwa bial-ofuqi al-aAAla</p>
<p dir="auto">For Muhammad the exalted Allah makes a different between the Prophets, o.k, but we we should not, or??<br />
Salam peace</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285959</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285959</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mirjamnur]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">A dream relating to future happening, if told to people, needs authentication by actual happening at later point in time. The dream that was told to people got happened and authenticated.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285942</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285942</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">whatever the prophet Saw, we do not really know what it was do we?</p>
<p dir="auto">On the contrary</p>
<p dir="auto">Re 1760</p>
<p dir="auto">Note that even though the vision was shown to thee (singular, i.e. the messenger) it is a fit'na/trial for the people, meaning that it MUST have been relayed to them.</p>
<p dir="auto">From http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html</p>
<p dir="auto">Simply ask, wherein was this vision relayed to the people?</p>
<p dir="auto">To me, the obvious, and perhaps only, answer is The Quran.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285936</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285936</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wakas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">whatever the prophet Saw, we do not really know what it was do we?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285918</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285918</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[youssef4342]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:29:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Even if Muhammad should be the first to receive this honor (physical ascension) , it does not give us the right to elevate him about other prophets. We should honor all equally</p>
<p dir="auto">What status and authority do we have that we could "elevate" someone? Allah the Exalted elevates. It is our choice whether or not we accept and revere it.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285896</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285896</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">i don't believe the NASA everything what they tell us, this first. Second they say this effect on the eye happens after six months in space, not after one day or i understand this wrong?</p>
<p dir="auto">Our believing or not believing does not effect the facts. Focus on the point that why was this mentioned hundreds of years back when one might not have even thought of going into space? Effect on one sense organ is negated and that too which is observed in all the astranauts?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285895</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285895</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'm not sure about the translation of the ala can certainly be a physical increase to a high place, but can also be meant to be the best, most amazing place ..?</p>
<p dir="auto">Salamun alaiki,</p>
<p dir="auto">It is not "ala" but with sound of "i" or "e".<br />
It is mentioned in article</p>
<p dir="auto">http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/0001.%20Pronouns%20and%20Prepositions/Prepositions/01.Illa,%20allaihe,%20illayya/02.gif<br />
Separable preposition. Its general meaning is directional towards an object. It does not mean or necessarily include entering into a location. It only denotes to reach the point where the boundary of another location begins.</p>
<p dir="auto">Other words mentioned therein denote ascention.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285893</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285893</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Salam Mazhar and Wakas<br />
thank you two for sharing your interesting posts )</p>
<p dir="auto">Because i acknowledge miracles, i have no problem with the article from Mazhar. But anybody don't like miracles, he will not accept this findings.<br />
Just one question</p>
<p dir="auto">Please see the words used in the Epidsode, and compare what are the physical realities that stand observed by NASA and other such Organizations, and the effect of space journey on the eyes of Astronauts.</p>
<p dir="auto">i don't believe the NASA everything what they tell us, this first. Second they say this effect on the eye happens after six months in space, not after one day or i understand this wrong?</p>
<p dir="auto">I'm not sure about the translation of the ala can certainly be a physical increase to a high place, but can also be meant to be the best, most amazing place ..?</p>
<p dir="auto">Even if Muhammad should be the first to receive this honor (physical ascension) , it does not give us the right to elevate him about other prophets. We should honor all equally<br />
Salam )</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285872</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285872</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mirjamnur]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:28:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:25:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Counter-evidence can be read here, in the first verse that is analysed, which happens to be 171</p>
<p dir="auto">http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html</p>
<p dir="auto">Salamun alaika, Wakas,</p>
<p dir="auto">It seems as if you did not go through the article too. Both paras on the subject in the above link are refuted, traditional gossips and well your observations.</p>
<p dir="auto">Please see the words used in the Epidsode, and compare what are the physical realities that stand observed by NASA and other such Organizations, and the effect of space journey on the eyes of Astronauts.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285650</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285650</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:25:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:25:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Counter-evidence can be read here, in the first verse that is analysed, which happens to be 171</p>
<p dir="auto">http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285645</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285645</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wakas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:25:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:24:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Salamun Alaikum Mazhar</p>
<p dir="auto">HQ 1701 - This verse has nothing to do with the so called ascensions of the Prophet Muhammad . Its refering to Prophet Musa and those that follow him when they escape from Fir3oun.</p>
<p dir="auto">HQ 1701 TO 08 is refering to the Israelites.</p>
<p dir="auto">peace</p>
<p dir="auto">Salamun alaika,</p>
<p dir="auto">Please first read the article. Musa alahissalam got fed up the the Israelites. He was appeased, and told that they will remain in bewilderment for forty years. That is the last information we have about Musa alahissalam.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285609</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.free-minds.org/post/285609</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazhar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:24:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to 17:1 Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical on Fri, 26 Sep 2025 18:24:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Journey far beyond the ascensions of Earthly Universe-It was physical with all sensory organs</p>
<p dir="auto">Refute, if you can.</p>
<p dir="auto">Salamun Alaikum Mazhar</p>
<p dir="auto">HQ 1701 - This verse has nothing to do with the so called ascensions of the Prophet Muhammad . Its refering to Prophet Musa and those that follow him when they escape from Fir3oun.</p>
<p dir="auto">HQ 1701 TO 08 is refering to the Israelites.</p>
<p dir="auto">peace</p>
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