I believe the sons should get everything, ie 5050 between them

the wife can not take anything because there is more than one child, unless the husband allocated a percenatge to her in a will but because there is no will, she gets nothing

also as NP said, the step daughter can not inherit anything

her sons can give her whatever between them though or even give their step sister anything they wish after they take their shares, and this is going to be a big test for them as the Quran stressed caring for the parents and highlighted more than once the hardship the mother goes through

The sons have a gold opportunity to make a very profitable trade with Allah under this specific circumstances

Allah knows best

peace

Salamun Alaikum Ahmed,
Regarding Marlboro's question can you add two parents of the man who died. I just need to understand the math behind the your understanding of 411 and 412.

Thank you.

Regards

Peace Loli

I?m not sure what you mean by including the parents?, I guess your question is when the parents should inherit, 411 talks about the following possibilities

1. The deceased has children ( boys and girls ), the boy will take twice as much as the girl , the parents will get nothing because they were not mentioned in this bit

2. The deceased has one girl only and no boys, the girl will take ? an each parent should take 1/6 because both were mentioned in this bit

3. The deceased has more than one girl and no boys, the girls will take 2/3 and the parents will get nothing because they were not mentioned in this bit, please note that this bit actually says if they are more than two girls, but it will also apply on the two girls measuring it from 4176

4. The deceased has no children and no brothers or sisters, then the mother takes 1/3 and the father takes nothing because the father was not mentioned in this bit

5. The deceased has no children but has brothers and sisters, then the mother takes 1/6, while the brothers and sisters were not mentioned here, they were mentioned in 4176 that the brother should take twice as much as the sister and the father takes nothing because the father was not mentioned in this bit

6. 412 does not mention the patents at all

Allah knows best

peace be with you

I believe the sons should get everything, ie 5050 between them

the wife can not take anything because there is more than one child, unless the husband allocated a percenatge to her in a will but because there is no will, she gets nothing

also as NP said, the step daughter can not inherit anything

her sons can give her whatever between them though or even give their step sister anything they wish after they take their shares, and this is going to be a big test for them as the Quran stressed caring for the parents and highlighted more than once the hardship the mother goes through

The sons have a gold opportunity to make a very profitable trade with Allah under this specific circumstances

Allah knows best

peace

Salamun Alaikum Ahmed,
Regarding Marlboro's question can you add two parents of the man who died. I just need to understand the math behind the your understanding of 411 and 412.

Thank you.

Regards

Thank you brother Loli for you question, I have taken a note and will get back to you later today, I'm just about heading to work

peace be with you

I believe the sons should get everything, ie 5050 between them

the wife can not take anything because there is more than one child, unless the husband allocated a percenatge to her in a will but because there is no will, she gets nothing

also as NP said, the step daughter can not inherit anything

her sons can give her whatever between them though or even give their step sister anything they wish after they take their shares, and this is going to be a big test for them as the Quran stressed caring for the parents and highlighted more than once the hardship the mother goes through

The sons have a gold opportunity to make a very profitable trade with Allah under this specific circumstances

Allah knows best

peace

Salamun Alaikum Ahmed,
Regarding Marlboro's question can you add two parents of the man who died. I just need to understand the math behind the your understanding of 411 and 412.

Thank you.

Regards

Yea, I guess I'm confused, cause now i odn't know what you mean.lol.

Here let me just give you the examples just in case--

If she is the step daughter, she has no right to his will (even if she is the half sister of the man's sons).

"step"children or siblings have no right to their "step" relatives.

Now can the sons give her some money? Yes, of course.

D

salaam

her sons can give her whatever between them though or even give their step sister anything they wish after they take their shares

if shes not a STEP sister, does she hv a share ?

Uhh...I think htat Ahmed misudnerstood you.

If she is a STEP daughter, she has no right to the man's will........ even if she is not the step sister of the sons (i.e. they are half brother and sisters, by bloood).

salaam

if shes not a STEP sister, does she hv a share ?

yeh man

2 + 2 + 1 = 5

100/5 = 20

each son takes 40

she takes 20

mother takes nothing "unless it was written by the deceased in a will"

Allah knows best

peace

if shes not a STEP sister, does she hv a share ?

I looked at 411-12 and it seems the wife only get the following

1. 1/4 if no chIldren at all
2. 1/8 if there is one son only

I based the above on the understanding thar "Waladun" means a single son because Allah referenced a single daughter as well if the children are 2 or more daughters 4-11, bt I'm open to try with you the possiblity that "Waladun" may only mean a girl,

some suggested to me that "Waladun" is "plural" but this is not true at all because the plural is "Awlad" and means "children (boy and girls together)" was mentioned at the start of 4-11 as "Awlad"

Allah knows best

Peace be with you

With all due respect, are you sure that the it should be split that way though?

What makes you believe that?

I mean there are no prescribed numbers or anything, this can be easily left up to the family like any other case......

ALSO

Whoever inherits can onyl collect AFTER debts and stuff like that is paid off. Also keep in my mind that the wife is suppose to have a one year's worth of accomodation out of her husband's estate (we'll he was suppose to bequest this for her in the first place).

salaam

I'm not sure sister, i will check the verses and I will get back to you

peace be with you

With all due respect, are you sure that the it should be split that way though?

What makes you believe that?

I mean there are no prescribed numbers or anything, this can be easily left up to the family like any other case......

ALSO

Whoever inherits can onyl collect AFTER debts and stuff like that is paid off. Also keep in my mind that the wife is suppose to have a one year's worth of accomodation out of her husband's estate (we'll he was suppose to bequest this for her in the first place).

salaam

I believe the sons should get everything, ie 5050 between them

the wife can not take anything because there is more than one child, unless the husband allocated a percenatge to her in a will but because there is no will, she gets nothing

also as NP said, the step daughter can not inherit anything

her sons can give her whatever between them though or even give their step sister anything they wish after they take their shares, and this is going to be a big test for them as the Quran stressed caring for the parents and highlighted more than once the hardship the mother goes through

The sons have a gold opportunity to make a very profitable trade with Allah under this specific circumstances

Allah knows best

peace

From my knowledge, in a case like this there is no set numbers for inhertiance. Also the stepdaughter has no legal right to the inheritance. I'm not saying that she can't get anyhting for the estate... but in the matter of law she couldn't say "this is my right".

I know a bit about this, but instead I'll choose to refrain. Please ask Ahmed, I know he knows much more about this.

salaam