<![CDATA["I / We"]]>peace

i have heard the theory that I refers to God only. And We refers to God and angels or others etc... However I remember reading verses like this

234 And We said to the Angels "Yield to Adam," so they yielded except for Satan, he refused and became arrogant, and became of the rejecters.

235 And We said "O Adam, reside you and your mate in the paradise, and eat from it bountifully as you both wish, and do not approach this tree, else you will be of those who did wrong."

238 We said "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."

Does this verse not provide the answer that We = Me i.e. God only?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

God bless

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/topic/5023/i-weRSS for NodeSat, 05 Sep 2026 03:04:05 GMTTue, 23 Sep 2025 23:31:39 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:59 GMT]]>peace ahmed

I understand. Urdu (which is derived from arabic) and my first taught language is exactly this way in that respect

Peace mate

I think I misunderstood what you meant by "can be", sorry

it seems that many languages have this metaphorical use of plural to refer to a singular, even English

well, no wonder all languages came from the same and one God

Salam

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85795https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85795Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:55 GMT]]>peace ahmed

I understand. Urdu (which is derived from arabic) and my first taught language is exactly this way in that respect

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85790https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85790Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:54 GMT]]>peace

from what i understand so far

arabic is not the same as english in which We and Us is always plural

In arabic we/us can be singular

Peace mate

it is not lieke can be singualr, in fact it is not, but it is common in arabic to metaphorically refer to a singualr and it only means respect

Peace

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85788https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85788Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:46 GMT]]>peace

from what i understand so far

arabic is not the same as english in which We and Us is always plural

In arabic we/us can be singular

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85775https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85775Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:27:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:53 GMT]]>Peace

While on ?I? and ?We? discussion we can not neglect the use of ?Me? and ?Us? also.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85691https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85691Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:48 GMT]]>Peace be upon you,

"I/We" depends on your point of view. God is the core of our being. Remember, The God blew into us from Its Divine Energy(Ruh Ul Qudus).

God is showing us our true Divine nature. WE=US, and so it is changes back and forth through the entire mesasage.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85684https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85684Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:23 GMT]]>peace

understood... thanks for the info... I thought it'd make sense We would refer to God only just needed clarification

God Bless

This is actually common in the Arabic and Hebro languages

Cheers

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85646https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85646Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:06 GMT]]>peace

understood... thanks for the info... I thought it'd make sense We would refer to God only just needed clarification

God Bless

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85620https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85620Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:26:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:49 GMT]]>As Alen mentioned above, "we" in Arabic could be used by a sovereign instead of "I"; but also when you do not want to go personal, as in writing a research/thesis; it would be more appropriate to use the plural "we" than "I" as in "when we investigated this matter, we found that..". One could also use the plural "we" in politeness as when applying for a job or when making a demand/request in formal situations.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85594https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85594Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:46 GMT]]>See http//www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Grammar/robinson.html
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Grammar/iltifaat.html

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85588https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85588Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:44 GMT]]>peace

well how does the arabic language work in this respect?

I mean in my first language urdu we can be singular.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85585https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85585Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:28 GMT]]>salam alaikum.

i was wondering if these three pronouns "I" , "We" ,and "He" have anything to do with verse 4251 , because it states that Allah has three methods of communictaion with human beings and in the Koran also three pronouns("I" , "We" ,and "He&quot are used.

4251 And it is not for any human that Allah would communicate with him except through inspiration/wahi ,or from behind a veil/hijab , or by sending a messenger/rasool to inspire whom He wills by His leave . Surely He is high, wise.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85563https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85563Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:10 GMT]]>Thanks Alen for you kind, encouraging comment.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85536https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85536Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:25:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:24:39 GMT]]>As salamu alaykum.
Respectfully. jedi

I agree with Samia, 100%. Some people in this country also have problems getting this WE and I thing and when they hear how queen of England also refers to herself as WE, then they get it.

Of course, it is wrong that humans (king and queens) refer to themselves as WE. They shouldn't but what can you do?

Well put, Samia, excellent post.
As salamu alaykum. jedi

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85492https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85492Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:24:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to "I / We" on Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:24:36 GMT]]>My reply might need more research, but from the verses you mentioned, and some other verses, I think that Allah refers to Himself as "We" when He speaks as The Lord (Rab), a position of Sovereignity and Mighty; and when He is speaking as (Allah), a position of Mercy and Guidance, He refers to Himself in the singular pronoun. Watever the correct answer is, I believe that We or I both refer to God.

]]>https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85487https://forum.free-minds.org/post/85487Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:24:36 GMT