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When Is Ramadan in 2007?

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    unknownuser
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    Peace Alen,

    If you mean does the date change from year to year then, yes, it does. In 2008 the full moon of Ramadan will be on July 18, 2008 in your area and the first day of fasting will be on July 19, 2008. In 2009, full moon of Ramadan will be on July 7, 2008 in your area.

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      Last Ramadan I was fasting during Octobor... When do you people fast, I mean how is it concluded you fast a certain time? I'm guessing its different from the sunni shia way, June/July seems early.. earlier than the norm I'm used to anyway.

      salam

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        unknownuser
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        Peace Sarah,

        Please see the following links for explanation and detailed discussion

        http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/timing.htm

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.0

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12364.0

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          SarahY
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          hmm interesting.. reading "so called islamic..." was abit annoying P but other than that it was good.. so how can one determine the moon? In every country ramadan would be different if thats the case? right?

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            unknownuser
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            Peace Sarah,

            The important thing is to unite in following the message of God, not necessarily observe it the same day, which would be a geographical impossibility any way.

            The full moon will be at a different time in different areas of the globe depending on one's precise location. The following link has a calculator to calculate the timing of the full moon in any part of Earth. The final determinant of the exact time of course will be the physical witnessing of the full moon when it occurs.

            http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/moonphases.html

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              ayman
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              Peace Tanveer,

              The important thing is to unite in following the message of God, not necessarily observe it the same day, which would be a geographical impossibility any way.
              The full moon will be at a different time in different areas of the globe depending on one's precise location. The following link has a calculator to calculate the timing of the full moon in any part of Earth. The final determinant of the exact time of course will be the physical witnessing of the full moon when it occurs.
              http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/moonphases.html

              Actually, the burning full-moon will occur on the same day everywhere in the same hemisphere (Northern and Southern hemispheres will be opposite times of the year). Remember we are not just looking for the full-moon, we are looking for the highest percent illumination reddish moon. This happens at the time when it rises above the horizon and it looks reddish like it is burning. As far as I can tell from the calculators, this will happen on the same day.

              Peace and all best wishes,

              Ayman

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                SarahY
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                -[ -\ confused ok now I'm confused...

                Peace Tanveer,

                Actually, the burning full-moon will occur on the same day everywhere in the same hemisphere (Northern and Southern hemispheres will be opposite times of the year). Remember we are not just looking for the full-moon, we are looking for the highest percent illumination reddish moon. This happens at the time when it rises above the horizon and it looks reddish like it is burning. As far as I can tell from the calculators, this will happen on the same day.

                Peace and all best wishes,

                Ayman

                Maybe the burning full moon will occur on the same day though maybe it won't be visible for me on the day it is for you... oh i think maybe i'm wrong..

                i did a search on the link that Tanveer gave me on full moon in my area

                Australia, New South Wales - Sydney

                http//www.timeanddate.com/calendar/moonphases.html?year=&n=240

                there is a full moon on June, Jun 30 1149 PM

                i'm still confused how you work it out sighs i guess i have to read the article again

                salam

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                  unknownuser
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                  Peace Ayman, Sarah,

                  Thanks Ayman for the correction.

                  Sarah, the burning full moon of the scorching heat in Australia will be the first one after December 21, because Australia is in the southern hemisphere and summer solstice there is December 21. This year it was supposed to be on January 4, 2007 and January 5, 2007 was the first day of fasting. Sorry for the late reply, I just saw your post. It is no problem, you can make up the missed day/days later on. Happy fasting for you )

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                    SarahY
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                    It's fine, thanks for replying and the info.

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                      nerspi
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                      peace

                      aren't we supposed to start the fast on the same day every year?
                      we celebrate new year on the same day, we celebrate birthdays on the same day every year, we have wedding anniversaries on the same day.

                      and Qur'an being sent down is an important thing and we have to fast in the month it was revealed in.

                      so does that mean we have to start fasting whenever within that month?
                      or do we have to start on the same day every year?

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                        SarahY
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                        it would be the same time every year, but it "shifts" every year because of the type of calander system.

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                          nerspi
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                          peace

                          well that's my point, it shouldn't shift.
                          and how much does it shift by? a day, a week...?

                          those sunni and other muslims that follow the traditional ramadan change a month every 3-4 years. sometimes they say ramadan is in november, in a few years it's october and so on...

                          how am i supposed to know what month the Qur'an was started being revealed in?

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                            Alen
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                            Salam.

                            The key issue here is that we obey the God when He tells us to fast.
                            Obediance.

                            Peace.

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                              SarahY
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                              It shifts because your working on a different calander. For example this calender goes for 365 days and in a leap year feb has an extra day, so what happends if you're born at the end of feb in a leap year?

                              say for example in another calander system it last for 340days or something the new yr will start after 340 days, it wont be the same new yr as this calander system because it goes by different days.

                              so really it's the same day, it just shifts with this calander system.

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                                nerspi
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                                peace

                                ok fine, let me put it like this.
                                they say ramadan means the hottest month, scorching month, so i would say that was when the sun was closest to arabia and that day we now call june 21. you know, you look up and the sun is right up there. i guess that's why it's the hottest month.

                                when the Qur'an was revealed lets say the sun was at a position where it is when we say it's june 21., it's right above arabia. and one day these traditionalists that go by the moon calendar will say in late june( when the sun is closest to arabia and the northen part of the earth), they'll say something like "today the ramadan starts"

                                and many years will go by( i hink it'll be 18-20 years) and these same people will say on late december(when the sun is closest australia and the suthern part of the earth) they'll say something like "today ramadan starts"

                                and if they live in arabia, once they'll look up and see the sun right above their heads and say this is hottest month, today ramadan begins. and with years they'll look up and see the sun far south (where the sun would be positioned in december) and they'll still say today ramadan begins.

                                now if the Qur'an was started being revealed when the sun was at a position where it would be on june 21. why are they saying ramadan starts when the sun is at a position where it would be in december?

                                peace

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                                  almarh0m
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                                  Salamun alaykum

                                  Ramadhan ( Traditional ) for 2007 should/ will be 11 days Earlier than 2006 . It goes forward 11 days every year on the Solar ( Season ) Callender . As you may know that the Arabs ( Sunni or Shi?h ) use the Lunar Callender.

                                  Cheers

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                                    nerspi
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                                    peace

                                    traditionally it changes, but i don't think it's supposed to change.
                                    it should be the same day every year.

                                    peace

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                                      M_Mehdi
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                                      Salam,

                                      I believe that most Muslims will be observing our fast between sept. and oct. in 2007. -peace

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                                        progod
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                                        Peace,

                                        If you want the times go to

                                        www.quranists.com/HajjandRamadan.html

                                        Godbless,
                                        Anwar

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