Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. Questions/Comments on the Quran
  4. Bro Arnold i have another question about "malak"

Bro Arnold i have another question about "malak"

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Questions/Comments on the Quran
7 Posts 3 Posters 10 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    jonny_k
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Peace,
    The angels, with their reports, climb to Him in a day that equals FIFTY THOUSAND years.
    What can the fifty thiusand years mean here? Also malak cannot be made of light or any em forces for tht matter since then relative to them they would not be experiencing any time. GOD Bless!

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • A Offline
      A Offline
      arnoldyasin
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Salaam Jonny,

      First of all we again need to translate the words correctly. Yaum means Era or Period, not specifically 'a day'. Malikah is not angels, but means, those that enforce the law/control the realm.

      704 The Universal forces that enforce His Laws in the Realm of Creation (malikah control khalq) and the Divine Energy ascend unto Him in an Era the measure of which is (like) fifty thousand years.

      Ascend doesn't refer here to 'go up' into heaven as there is no up or down in the Universe, Allah is Omnipresent, but that the Universe evolves to Higher stages of development and thus comes closer to perfection and thus ascend to Allah, the Ultimate Perfection.

      And so the 1000 years and 50.000 years refer to evolutionaire stages of the Universe. That in every stage, new Malikah, the Laws that control His Realm of Khalq, are triggered into action to bring the Universe into Higher levels of Perfection. This is confirmed by Quantum Physics on many levels.

      It has nothing to do with 'beings of light' that travel around the Universe, this mythological concept of Malikah is an ancient fairytale of the Babyloniers. Do you really believe in creatures travelling through wormholes as someone suggested, and 'help' the creation by turning stars and moving meteors? This is how the superstitious peoples of the past looked at the Universal forces, as they only could understand things in the realm of personifying things. They personified everthing, feelings of love and anger were pictured as gods in human form, even war and hunger was represented by human formed beings. Stars and planets were human formed powers and so on and so on.

      We today have let go most of these personifications, except that of 'angels', these are so branded in our perception of universal forces, we can't let go of this human personification of these forces. We try to put them in a new modern coat by giving them scientific explanations, same holds with jinn, which is just a description definition of thousands of things.

      Malikah are the Laws of the Universe and are not conciousness in a sense as us. They only know the information which Allah has given them, and thus only their part of controlling the Realm of Creation.

      Look for example at 'Gabriel'. Everybody faithfully follows the Christian interpretation of this term. They see it as a title, and never thought it as a description of a Universal Force.

      Jibril, comes from Jabr and il.

      Jabr means mending a broken thing and also giving a poor man so liberally as to make him well off and a brave person, and il refer to Powerful or Mightyness.

      So Jibril is translated as That which mends the poor human with Power and Might so it will be well off and a brave creature.

      And thus refers to that it brings the Revelation that restores the original path of Mankind so it will be on the right track again and has courage to follow that path again. This is exactly what the Revelation does.

      Jibril is also called Ruh-Al-Qudus. Ruh is used in the Quran for Revelation, Wahi, Inspiration. It also means Essence. Rihun means Wind, Power, Dominance, Conquest, Good and pure thing, Mercy, Aid against the Enemy. In the Quran it also used for Punishment when in singular or Blessing when in plural. Qudus means Holiness or Purity. So indeed Ruh-Al-Qudus is to be understood as Divine Energy or Divine pure Essence of Power.

      These are all descriptive terms. Jibril describes an Universal Force that has only one function, that is to give Revelation to Mankind. This Universal Force can only be picked up by chosen men. They can tap into the Knowledge of Allah using this Force.

      We today know that there is one unlimited energy field which all creation was formed out, the Quantum field. This energy field also holds all information of what happens in the universe, everything we do leaves a ripple in this field.

      Allah also has left 'ripples' in this Field when the Universe was created, this information formed the Laws that govern our Universe. His Will is expressed through these Laws. One of these Laws, these energy forces, is that chosen men, Prophets, have access to Allah's Revelation just like a radio.

      This Revelation-radio wave is called Jibril. No person or being, a connection-wave.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • J Offline
        J Offline
        jonny_k
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Peace bro "Arnold",
        Thankyou very much but what about he numbers in one case "1000" and her in the verse above "FIFTY thousand"? Has any scientific calculation come out as yet which gave a result equal to or very close to those numbers? GOD Bless!

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • A Offline
          A Offline
          arnoldyasin
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          No my dear Jonny,

          Also to me many things still need exploring. I have shared that which I know...May Allah increase us in knowledge

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • N Offline
            N Offline
            Navid
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Peace Arnold

            I know this is kind of late, but I had a question. Your article makes a lot of sense, but what about verses like this

            When we said to the angels, "Fall prostrate before Adam," they fell prostrate, except Satan; he refused, was too arrogant, and a disbeliever.

            What are your thoughts on the relation between malaika and Adam, as well as satan; what universal law could he have been, I'm kind of lost regarding this. Is there something I'm missing? I really feel like we're coming closer and closer to the truth.

            Peace

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • A Offline
              A Offline
              arnoldyasin
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Salaam dear Navid,

              Please see

              http//19.org/index.php?id=91,417,0,0,1,0&PHPSESSID=d6733b15653565fd7ddfd111a28a4d2a

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • N Offline
                N Offline
                Navid
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Salaam dear Navid,

                Please see

                http//19.org/index.php?id=91,417,0,0,1,0&PHPSESSID=d6733b15653565fd7ddfd111a28a4d2a

                Thank you very much brother Arnold. I will read through it.

                Peace

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                Reply
                • Reply as topic
                Log in to reply
                • Oldest to Newest
                • Newest to Oldest
                • Most Votes


                • Login

                • Don't have an account? Register

                • Login or register to search.
                • First post
                  Last post
                0
                • Categories
                • Recent
                • Users