Farewell
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Thank you for the replies to my posts and for sharing your thoughts with me. I've had an interesting couple of days here but having read the recent and archived posts i'm sorry to say I don't think I fit in here. I always have and always will rely on the Quran as my sole source of guidance. I believe the Holy Book is complete and it has been delivered once by the prophet and messenger Muhammad pbuh. I struggle with the concept that new messengers now exist and they can retrospectively take credit for verses already written. This isn't a belief that I share. As I rely on the Quran alone, I think following other books and interpretations, including Rashad's, goes entirely against the concept and principle of relying on the Quran alone. It is for the same reason I do not follow ahadeeth. I think that any numerical patterns that may or may not exist can only further prove the miracle of the Quran and not the counting system employed to analyse it. Whilst i'm a strong believer in 'each to their own' I feel alien to the discussions here on everyday people being messengers. It's this bit that makes it feel like we a practicing entirely different religions, despite following the Quran alone - and this troubles me. I fully respect the various beliefs held here. Please do not think that because I do not share them that I do not respect them I do, just like we all respect other faiths. Anyway, I thought I would share with you my reasons for leaving. I have enjoyed starting to get to know you and really like the idea of finding like-minded people. I seem to be in the wrong forum and it's best that I bid you farewell now. Best wishes, Tulip.
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Peace and farewell.
Whenever in doubt over something, you should look at the scripture and see what it has to say. That way you can be sure of the right way, instead of just guessing/going with personal desire. I too am troubled that God might still send messengers. But thats the reality of whats written in the Quran. So I have to accept it.Anyway God Bless.
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Peace to all,
Tulip, unfortunately you seem to have joined the forum right when we started getting a bunch o fpeople claiming to be messengers of GOd, this isnt the normal type of conversation or discussion we have, I think if you stick around for awhile you will see that you do in fact fit in perfectly well with the majority of us, we are all still struggling and searching, but I think that we all agree that the Quran and GOd are the most important things in our lives, other than that, we disagree on many things, so please dont leave just yet. Give us all a chance to convince you or be convinced by you on areas of discussion.
Respectfully,
Kurt
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Peace Tulip,
Before you go, I would appreciate if you could study this issue and let us see what is the truth of the matter.http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597491.msg186114;topicseen#msg186114
Its been going on long enough, I think the forum needs to start looking at the verses and judging by them.
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I struggle with the concept that new messengers now exist and they can retrospectively take credit for verses already written.
what are you talking about here tulip? this is not something i believe. i agree with ironsky, you probably having reading a few of the farer out threads and think they are the consensus. they are not. there is a wide range of people that come here to post as it is an extremely open forum. nobody here has to believe anything they do not want to. this forum was designed to discuss islam based on the quran alone. that's all.
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Peace,
Respectfully.May God AllPowerful bless you and i hope you stay around and make more friends.
Not all people here agree with RK but we still all get along.
I hope you stay and i hope God gives you more strength, God willing.Glory be to our God.
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peace,
Thank you for the replies to my posts and for sharing your thoughts with me. I've had an interesting couple of days here but having read the recent and archived posts i'm sorry to say I don't think I fit in here. I always have and always will rely on the Quran as my sole source of guidance. I believe the Holy Book is complete and it has been delivered once by the prophet and messenger Muhammad pbuh. I struggle with the concept that new messengers now exist and they can retrospectively take credit for verses already written. This isn't a belief that I share. As I rely on the Quran alone, I think following other books and interpretations, including Rashad's, goes entirely against the concept and principle of relying on the Quran alone. It is for the same reason I do not follow ahadeeth. I think that any numerical patterns that may or may not exist can only further prove the miracle of the Quran and not the counting system employed to analyse it. Whilst i'm a strong believer in 'each to their own' I feel alien to the discussions here on everyday people being messengers. It's this bit that makes it feel like we a practicing entirely different religions, despite following the Quran alone - and this troubles me. I fully respect the various beliefs held here. Please do not think that because I do not share them that I do not respect them I do, just like we all respect other faiths. Anyway, I thought I would share with you my reasons for leaving. I have enjoyed starting to get to know you and really like the idea of finding like-minded people. I seem to be in the wrong forum and it's best that I bid you farewell now. Best wishes, Tulip.
Do you commonly take a small % of content to represent the whole? e.g. some people who call themselves "Muslims" are terrorists, do you then make all "Muslims" terrorists? Of course not, as this is illogical.
Similarly, with this forum, it is only a minority of posts that discuss messengership or code 19 etc. They do not represent the forum as a whole. No member or post or thread can do that. If you have difficulty in understanding this simple idea, then I agree, that this forum is perhaps not for you.
It's this bit that makes it feel like we a practicing entirely different religions, despite following the Quran alone - and this troubles me.
Congratulations. You have stumbled upon the feeling that likely caused islam to become regimental, homogenised, tied to schools of thought / tradition/culture/hadith etc.
