As-Salat, and how is it performed depending on the Qur'an only?
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Welcome everyone,
I Thank you all for the rescent comments on my previous posts as i thought to myself that i should give the Qur'an time and read it carefuly page to page and see whats going on with God. I want to ask anyone who knows based on the Qur'an the proper steps God wants us to do to make a salat. In (56) it is said to wash the face, then the arms to the elbows and the hair then the feet to the ankles. That is said altho i do not know how many times so i concider washing them once or as long as the four parts are cleaned.
Now that i know my Wudu'e (the cleaning part) the big question is how do i make the salat with God? I tried to read the Qur'an and find verses to show me how a salat is made but i didn't find them yet since i am new to islam. Can someone with the knowledge based on the Qur'an only show me the verses from God telling people how he wants us to pray and connect to him in the daily five prayers? is it a 2-4-4-3-4 style? do you recite the Qur'an's "fatiha - the key" verses then an other verse from my choice while in the standing position? How many bowing down each prayer has really from the Qur'an really?
Thank you in advance
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peace weinmar,
Many new people to "Quran Only" struggle with "salat". In fact, even those who have been "Quran Only" for years still struggle with it. My recommendation would be to gradually build up your knowledge by reading 'al quran', have patience and do not look for a pre-conceived understanding as this will cloud your judgement. Please study ALL the articles of "Quran Only" salat and EVERY thread on this forum about "salat". Then re-read them several times. That is what I did.
I tried to read the Qur'an and find verses to show me how a salat is made but i didn't find them
On the contrary, you did find them. What you mean is you did not find information about your pre-conceived notion of "salat".
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What you mean is you did not find information about your pre-conceived notion of "salat".
As i read the Qur'an (not fully yet but getting there with time) I did'nt find a single verse that shows how many kneeling and bowing down for each specific time for a specific salat. I been told that its always 2-4-4-3-4 for all the five salats successfuly. So what are the origins of bowing twice in the "fajr" prayer and four times in the "duhr", "asr" and the "isha' " while its three times for the "sunset" prayer? IS there a specific verse that says so?
Now getting to a related toping. If it is actually a 2-4-4-3-4 set up bowing to each consecutive salat, How do you contact God thru each salat. What do you say while standing, bowing and kneeling? Is the thought of God at a specific time of the day suficient enough as a "salat"? i need more Qur'anic informations before considering Sunni or Shia or anything else because i can come up with my stuff too and do not want to go that far. yet.
Thanks
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well rescently i been doing this. I just make 3 prayers per day each 2-4-4 ruku'. I say faiha every time. Do the cleaning part and face sunrise all the basics. I make also a dua that my prayer is accepted. If its right way then God please accept it. If it's wrong then please forgive me as i am still learning and finding out.
God bless
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I did'nt find a single verse that shows how many kneeling and bowing down for each specific time for a specific salat.
it doesn't say anything about how many times to do each, i think that's up to you.
as long as you pray to God alone it's okay. we're told to bow, to prostrate, to glorify and to praise only Allah, if you're doing that, i don't think that's wrong.448 God does not forgive that partners be set up with Him, and He forgives what is beside that for whom He wills. Whoever sets-up partners with God has indeed invented a great sin.
and like wakas said, you should read other articles about it and research more.
peace
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Peace Weinmar,
Be patient and the full understanding will come over time God willing. hmm ----> yes yay
20114 Then High above all is God, the King, the True. And do not be hasty with the Qur'an before its inspiration is completed to you, and say "My Lord, increase my knowledge."
I would like to share my current understanding on some aspects of salat; perhaps you might find it helpful
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12074.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13595.0
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13496.0
Please go through all the links I referenced in my posts also and most importantly verify everything yourself from the Qur'an per 1736
1736 And do not uphold/follow/cause to follow what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and mind, all these you are responsible for.
Check out brother Wakas' understanding too
http//mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/think-786/slw.htm
http//www.mypercept.co.uk/articles/disproved_traditional_salat.htm
Check out brother Arnold's following post
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13544.msg116186#msg116186
! Study the Qur'an as brother Wakas has advised, as many times as you can and use your God given gifts of mind and reason to form your own understanding. Listen to what is being said and then follow the best of it as The God has advised
3918 The ones who listen to what is being said, and then follow the best of it. These are the ones whom God has guided, and these are the ones who possess intelligence.
The following website gives excellent tools to help you study the Qur'an
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/
May The God guide us all to the truth so we can humbly submit to Him by following the straight path. pr
peace
