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Problems and some solutions to current Quagmire of Muslims

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    Just want to share here for further comments.

    Badar Kanwar

    Muslims of present time have been blindly following their ancestors. Spiritually and intellectual they have been slaves of their Arab masters. The ancestors of current Arab masters had created a religion in the name exalted prophet, where they have given him a status of equivalent of Rub. This was the best way to derive people away from their Rub and his message. With time this whole thing is out of hand and control. This is due in part to moral and social status of current Arabs. Who have become so corrupt and weak that they can not continue their influence. In addition thanks to current explosion of information technology.

    Hence current Muslims can do one of following.

    1. Do nothing, continue the course and continue to pray. They have been doing this for hundred of years. However, ground realities are such that this approach may lead to imminent disaster sooner than later.
    2. Critically evaluate the Hadith literature. The number one source of their jurisprudence and religious practices. Recognize its short coming and do not base any of the jurisprudence on it. Realize it has only historic value. In addition its religious doctrine and rituals should be left to individual preference. The broader enforcement and propagation should be curbed if needed.
    3. The Quran seem to persist in its original form. It has characteristics of being a divine message. However, its language is archaic and lost. No body fully understands this language. Even the one who claims to understand it they are incorrect. This is based on my own research. So either one can throw it outside the window as well. Or else put collective efforts towards understanding it via reviving the lost language. Hence help to solve the biggest mystery.

    Badar Kanwar

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    Dr. Shabbir
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    Posted Sat Jan 24, 2009 1007 am Post subject


    Dear Dr. Badar,

    Try telling the world that Arabic is a lost language and let me know if anyone agrees with you.

    The massive collection of stories in Hadith is, of course, questionable.

    But - Does not Allah promise to safeguard the Qur'an?

    What will you do to the following verses?

    6115 Perfected is the Word of your Lord in truth and Justice. None can change His Words and His laws. And He is the Profound Hearer, the Knower.

    1064 There is good news for them in this world and in the life to come. God?s Words never change. Success in the world and in the life to come is the Supreme Triumph.

    1827 (O Messenger) convey to them whatever of this Book is revealed to you from your Lord. 619.) None can alter His Words. And you will find no refuge other than Him.

    7517 It is up to Us to gather it and the reading of it.

    7518 Thus, when We read it, follow the reading.

    7519 Then, it is for Us to explain it.


    Wassalam,
    SA

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    bkanwar2

    Joined 24 Jan 2007
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    Posted Mon Jan 26, 2009 224 pm Post subject


    Very respected Dr. Shabbir, languages start as spoken language first. The natives learn it naturally. However, language/words spoken from ones mouth become dead right after speaker utters them. This can only be preserved by writing them. This was the only method for preservation at the time of prophet, now we have other means as well. The spoken language and meaning of words keep changing over time.

    When I say it is a dead language I am implying to spoken part. Quranic language in writing is well preserved. Hence the verses you quoted are all valid and have lived up to promise of Rub

    Since at present no body speaks exactly the same Arabic as at the time of prophet. Hence the only means to understand Quran is via learning the language which is only preserved in writing. However in order to understand the language that is alive in writting only one need to pay attention to few aspects of written language.

    The most important is script itself. Since it is hand written language, how they use to separate or combine words. Here the whole issue of Jezm, Sukoon and Teshdeed becomes relevant, this I have enumerated before.

    In addition understanding their lexicon, that is concepts imparted in words and finally grammatical rules.

    Current spoken Arabic only uses very similar grammatical rule, but neither the script nor lexical meanings. Hence to try to understand Quran, via only current spoken Arabic, is an effort in vain.

    Badar Kanwar

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