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visions and premonitions and dreams

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    nerspi
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    peace

    how come some people have visions or premonitions?

    i for instance had quite a few dreams about something and later it happened, but i realized that when it happened and not before. kind of like a deja vu.

    any studies on what goes on there?

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      Mix between you imagination and the Quantum Field information.

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        nerspi
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        i was just watching a video of this guy, bill wiese, who apparently spent 23 minutes in hell. here are some clips where he talks about it.

        hell is real part 1
        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fckuyg5KNWs

        hell is real part 2
        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDI7lxr41R0

        hell is real part 3
        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlE3yBt4b40

        now, did he just dream that?
        was it just his imagination mixing with what he read in the bible?

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          There are three kinds of dreams

          1. Roohani (Spiritual) - This is a form of divine revelation which has not ceased. This dream is directly from Allah. Many times in these dreams one can see the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) and/or receive a revelation.

          2. Nafsani (Egotistical) - This is the "normal" dream, usually a reflection on one's day, etc.

          3. Shaytani (Satanic) - This is a dream/inspiration from Satan. These kinds of dreams will frequent the most unrighteous and wicked people.

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            nerspi
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            peace

            i see.
            but this guy said he went to hell for like 23 minutes. he did describe it kinda like it's described in the qur'an (well, certain translations of the qur'an).
            fire, hard breathing, thirst, physical pain...

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              I've had a dream of this sort of thing, I dreamt of judgment day, it was such a weird dream, I was quite ill afterwards.

              It was when I was really young, still in primary school, would have been about 9-10 years old. It's the only dream I can actually remember with clarity, I'm the type of person who either rarely has dreams or rarely remembers them. I can't recall if I've even had a wet dream or not and thats something guys usually remember vividly. So it's interesting that of all the dreams that I could ever have, ever remember, it's this one.

              Question, has anyone of you ever had a dream of this nature?

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                There are three kinds of dreams

                1. Roohani (Spiritual) - This is a form of divine revelation which has not ceased. This dream is directly from Allah. Many times in these dreams one can see the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) and/or receive a revelation.

                2. Nafsani (Egotistical) - This is the "normal" dream, usually a reflection on one's day, etc.

                3. Shaytani (Satanic) - This is a dream/inspiration from Satan. These kinds of dreams will frequent the most unrighteous and wicked people.

                Concerning my dream, I'm trying to see how they fall into the 3 kinds of dreams.

                I don't think I had divine revelation at the age of 9-10 years, the prophet didn't appear, so it's probably not number 1. I don't know how they could be a reflection of the day, since well I have no idea how I would've reflected something like that at age 9-10, my day usually revolves going to school, playing hockey and video games, so thus probably not number 2. That only leaves the 3rd kind, which is scary to think I was unrighteous and wicked at such a young age.

                I don't bother making sense of my dreams, too many variables to know for sure, to unpredictable to make sense of it all.

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                  the prophet didn't appear, so it's probably not number 1

                  The Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) can appear in a roohani dream, or he may not and it can still be from Allah (revelation).

                  And whoever sees me in a dream then surely he has seen me for Satan cannot impersonate me. (Sahih Bukhari, Kitabul Ilm)

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                    nerspi
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                    And whoever sees me in a dream then surely he has seen me for Satan cannot impersonate me. (Sahih Bukhari, Kitabul Ilm)

                    is that a hadith or something? i don't remember reading it in the qur'an.

                    can a person even dream of another human being whom he has never seen before?

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                      is that a hadith or something? i don't remember reading it in the qur'an.

                      can a person even dream of another human being whom he has never seen before?

                      Yes this is a saying of the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam). If one has seen him in a dream and it matches perfectly his known physical description, than one has in fact seen him.

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                        nerspi
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                        peace

                        i don't think you can see the prophet in your dreams. you can only dream of things that are stored in your memory, and the prophet is not there. you haven't seen him in real life. so how can you see him in your dreams, how can you know what he looks like?

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                          peace

                          i don't think you can see the prophet in your dreams. you can only dream of things that are stored in your memory, and the prophet is not there. you haven't seen him in real life. so how can you see him in your dreams, how can you know what he looks like?

                          When you read a book, do you not imagine in your head what the characters in the book look like? It would be the same with the prophet. You would use what you know of him (ie. Age, culture, etc) to build an image and because of how dreams work you would know that image was the prophet.

                          I once had a dream where everyone I knew was animals, and even though none of them even closely resembled themselves I knew who everyone was.. Dreams are like that.

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                            nerspi
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                            peace

                            well yeah. i would imagine the prophet to look like a guy from arabia, tall...
                            so if i dreamt of a person like that, how would i know that it's the prophet?

                            actually wait, he's dead and he is not aware of himself, he will be when he's resurrected, so there's no way we can see any dead people in our dreams.

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                              nerspi
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                              oh wait, people can dream of dead people, now i don't think they're actual souls of people that existed but just memories of them.
                              we just pick up the frequencies of dead people in the Quantum Field.

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                                peace

                                i don't think you can see the prophet in your dreams. you can only dream of things that are stored in your memory, and the prophet is not there. you haven't seen him in real life. so how can you see him in your dreams, how can you know what he looks like?

                                Dreaming of things stored in your memory is part of the nafsani dream. I am talking about a divine revelation in the form of a dream. In a normal dream, yes, what you dream of is based on what is stored in your memory. In a divine revelation dream, the contents of the dream are imposed by the Holy Spirit (Jibraeel). If one sees the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) in his dream, it is not based on memory or anything like that, it is in fact an inspired dream in which one has in fact seen the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam).

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                                  nerspi
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                                  peace

                                  but you wouldn't see a real image of the prophet, he does not come to your dreams. jibreel can because he is not a human. but the prophet, no.

                                  he will become aware of himself when he is resurrected, just like the rest of dead people. and during their death, they're not awake and can not enter people's dreams.

                                  and i don't think people other then chosen ones(prophets) can have divine revelation dreams. prophets sure, because they're prophets, they bring the message, and that ended with muhammad.

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                                    Ghulam_Rasool
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                                    Assalamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

                                    Hazrat Mariam (alaihi salaam) was not a prophet yet she was a recipient of revelation, as the Holy Quran clearly shows. The Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) said "Nothing is left of the prophethood except Al-Mubashshirat - The true good dreams (that conveys glad tidings)."

                                    He also said "The (good) dreams of a faithful believer is one of the forty-six parts of prophethood." (Sahih Bukhari)

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                                      nerspi
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                                      yes but she did not recieve the revelation in a dream.
                                      i'm not saying people can't recieve revelations,
                                      but they can't see dead people in their dreams.
                                      mariam did not see any prophets in her dream.
                                      i guess she was one of the chosen ones to have a revelation.

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                                        but they can't see dead people in their dreams.

                                        You are clearly contradicting the saying of our Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) "Whoever has seen me in a dream, then no doubt, he has seen me, for Satan cannot impersonate me." (Sahih Bukhari) But of course if you do not believe in his sayings, then there is no means of reproach between you and I on this issue.

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                                          nerspi
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                                          peace

                                          i am not contradicting the sayings of the prophet, i am contradicting what bukhari claims to be sayings of the prophet.
                                          bedides, it doesn't say anything like that in the qur'an so it's not necessarily true.

                                          and you're right, you and i can't talk about it.

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