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Acusations of the faith freedomers

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    Lost_Philosopher
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    I've been looking at the faithfreedom (they took the name I wanted to use )website for a bit and was wondering about what they've said. Is it rue that mohammed was

    a rapist?
    a pedophile? (Ayisha?(sp?)
    an assassin?
    a mass murderer?
    a ruthless torturer?
    a terrorist?
    a lecher? (definition?)
    a misogynist? (definition?)
    a narcissist?
    a thief and plunderer?
    a mentally deranged?

    I would like to know to help my personal ideology and possibly end the faith freedom movement.

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      arnoldyasin
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      These all came forth from false stories about Muhammed. For example, there are much books saying that Aishya was 18 and even 48, but these books are ignored because the kings wanted young wives.

      And they always say 2 things, he is a liar and insane, but to be a liar you must be conciousness of your lying. Being insane means he truly believed he was a prophet. A liar wouldn't be so confident as Muhammed showed in history. An insane man would not be so tolerant as he showed, he pardoned whole Mecca after its capture, even the murderes of his family were pardoned.

      And for the rest, all accusations are based on Hadith, hearsay of 300 years old, selected by kings to justify their own wrong deeds. In court, these accusations could never hold up.

      If you research their site carefully, you will see they rarely use the Quran, or only Quran that is explained by Hadith. They can never use Quran to show Islam is wrong, only Hadith. In this way Faithfreedom is serving us, as they confront the sects in Islam with the history books they believe are completely true.

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        Lost_Philosopher
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        So, in a way, they're helping us? As odd as it may sound I understand it.

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          phoenix1
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          even the murderes of his family were pardoned.

          and that isn't insane? confused

          Faithfreedom is using hadith and quran to break down Islam. They're not claiming that this is what actually happened. That Muhammad even was a real person. All they're saying is, what you believe in is horse manure. And for the most part they're right. They aren't right, though, about Islam (the religion) being responsible for all of mankind's troubles and all the violence in the world. And there's no secret Islamic conspiracy to take over the world.
          The thing is, no one can prove those accusations to be false. Well, a Muslim can't. Because if he does, then he has to change his beliefs (because that's where the accusations come from), and he is no longer a Muslim and he doesn't give a damn about Muhammad. So, that means the $50,000 doesn't exist. Just like all those people in the Hadith.

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            zenje
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            So, in a way, they're helping us? As odd as it may sound I understand it.

            No, I don't think so. These stories are there and available, it doesnt need faith freedom to help. The only thing they're showing is that they're insane, and obsessed much. It all depends on the individual, the Creator is always there to guide to the truth.

            Peace

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