NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS: SITE MAY GO OFFLINE!
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Peace all,
This is a result of a discussion moderators and a message received by one of them (partially quoted hereunder).
This is a general cautionary post to inform people that the site may go offline in the near future. We have received a threat from a member that he will utilise resources at his disposal to bring this forum down. We will obviously try to avert this but in case the forum is offline for sometime, please do not be alarmed, we will do all possible to have it back up again soon.
i am taking this very seriously, and the attitude of certain mods is so over the top, that it begs for a totally open system. Or in other words, how about practicing what the page preaches. If the openess of Islam -supposedly- cannot be implmentet in a microcosmos, what are its odds in a macrocosmos society? slim...
...i will vampire the page to its knees. I can vampire ca.100GB a day, and so can the 5 mates i allready asked to do it.
...that sums up to 500gb bandwith usage a day. I will give it 2 days before the domain kills the page. That or remove my posts. And dont take it as a threat, because it isnt. It is me telling what the reaction to further inaction will be.
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Why not just delete his posts? What's the big deal?
Yes, why not? I know it is against the rules of the site; but if this or lose the forum, I say this.
I just hope others do not learn from this mafia-like style.I hope it is not the person in my mind, because I will really be sorry since this behaviour is completely against his preaching. And the members of the forum do not deserve this treatment from him.
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Yes, why not? I know it is against the rules of the site; but if this or lose the forum, I say this.
I just hope others do not learn from this mafia-like style.I hope it is not the person in my mind, because I will really be sorry since this behaviour is completely against his preaching. And the members of the forum do not deserve this treatment from him.
It is a threat, like all threats if mods were to succumb to their demands, it sends the wrong message, that here people will tolerate this sort of behavior. Sister Samia, people will learn from this mafia-like style like you said, but what they will learn is whether it works or not, if this site can be threatened for closure to meet some petty demand.
Shame on you whoever is threatening to shut this forum!
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It is a threat, like all threats if mods were to succumb to their demands, it sends the wrong message, that here people will tolerate this sort of behavior.
Well said. Personally, I was quite disappointed.
For further information please refer to the thread here.
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Peace all
you could call this persons bluff if it is a bluff. pr
you could discuss this persons grevance in an open manner in this forum and let all members vote to delet his/her posts . yeah
moderaters decide for all members thinking we as members are not capable of thinking for our self and we need protecting. elektro
we could ask President Bush what he would do &
we could giveup
Peace Salim
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Peace to all,
Please,lets not turn this into a forum fight. First, if the Mods are having some issues they should work on that in private, lets not bring this stuff out in the open and attack a brother that has contributed many great posts. It seems this incident wouldnt be happening if it was handled a bit more appropriately by all sides.
The brothers involved were posting some posts and trying to prove their respective positions, one of the brothers involved happens to do a lot of well thought out research and always included many good pictures to help prove his point. It just so happened that another brother right around the same time suggested that we should not be allowed to delete or edit our posts anymore since they can ruin the logic of a thread ( which was a good point), but, at the same time, the brother that was posting pictures with his posts had one deleted (censored) because a mod thought it was offensive, which in turn offended the brother, so he started to delete some of his posts in protest.
Since the edit function was disabled right in the middle of this dispute it seemed to favor one over the other. I personally think that we should have been given a fair notice that the edit or delete ability was going to be disabled at a given date and time and that anyone who desired to change their posts must do so by that date, after this the new rules would apply. By deciding this in the middle of a heated debate does seem unfair to the offended poster, and I beleive he is justified in his feeling grieved.
Im sure any threats made were a way to prove to the mods that the brother is serious and going to take a principled stand, after all, isnt that exactly what he always did.
Kurt
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Peace Kurt and All,
Since the edit function was disabled right in the middle of this dispute it seemed to favor one over the other. I personally think that we should have been given a fair notice that the edit or delete ability was going to be disabled at a given date and time and that anyone who desired to change their posts must do so by that date, after this the new rules would apply. By deciding this in the middle of a heated debate does seem unfair to the offended poster, and I beleive he is justified in his feeling grieved.
This (post-deleting) would all be okay if this was the first time. This has happened before from the old forum and I can attest to this. Before this it was something to do with a fear that somebody was tracking this member (or something to that effect, I forget). In any case, I believed the situation to be true. Only on the old board it didn't have this function where (as an admin) you can delete all the posts with one shot. The only solution I could think of at the time was that the member could delete the content on their own, which would mean go one post at a time. We did what we could, the member cancelled the account voluntarily and that was it. No arguments, no debates, no threats.Now it seems it's turning into an annoying habit, and not only that, we're being threatened that the whole board will be 'shut down' if we don't meet with the demands. Personally (not speaking on behalf of any mod or admin), I don't take well to threats. It was discussed with the mods about posting this in the open, and while some were hesitant, we agreed, however, to post this, because it affects us all. Let's call it what it is, a threat to all the members who participate on this board. So that if you find one day the board is gone (even if temporarily), you will know what happened. I also wanted to post the exact quotes so you can see for yourself. The member says its not a threat, but I think it's better to read the messages for yourselves and make up your own mind.
Again, this is not simply a one time thing that happened and one side and/or the other went over-board. It's a cumulative problem that's been there over some time now.
Peace.
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Peace upon all,
A just solution, in my view, was presented by someone on the thread about the issue of censoring posts. It was suggested to put a link to the picture with a warning to not hurt anyone's feelings. I think that it is a fair way for resolving this issue.
The mods could also do this after saving and deleting the pictures.
Sometimes, I read this forum at my work place. I would not want to have to explain to someone looking at my screen suddenly finding the picture of a penis on it, even if such pictures don't annoy me personally. So please noah, don't put me in such a situation, or else .... voodoo.
;D
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A just solution, in my view, was presented by someone on the thread about the issue of censoring posts. It was suggested to put a link to the picture with a warning to not hurt anyone's feelings. I think that it is a fair way for resolving this issue.
This is exactly what I said to the member, and as I stated on the thread you refer to, they told me this option was unacceptable to them.
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Peace be upon you all,
I cant believe I just read what I just read. What would be the point of shutting down the forum where people are discussing God? Unbelievable character. Obvious inability to control the emotions(shayteen).
O well, the truth is within where it cant be destroyed, so whatever is destroyed in the outer world can be rebuilt, but rest assured that the Laws of life cannot be escaped, those who do wrong will reap wrong, only those who dont understand that seek "revenge" rather than overlook and turn away.
Peace to all of the peaceful(muslims)
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Why should everyone suffer on the hands of a bunch of people? or even one person? Besides that, is that the way islam teaches us to handle things? It's strange.
No offense but the dude who wants to remove things from the site hasn't made a wise decision. Besides not everything in life goes the way you want not everyone is going to agree with you. Two wrongs don't make a right. And sometimes two different opinions can be right.
People do practice what they preach though you should remember a person is only a human and inevitable to error, fear & anger can be very controlling and everyone has different character and goes about things differently.
Anyway Kurt good point, Maybe people did do wrong; the mods. Maybe they should have warned though shutting down a site doesn't make it right either, to me that's worse. Is it fair for me and you? or anyone else? I don't believe so.
Everyone has a right to be upset, but let's be civil normal adults and fix the problem rather than create a problem. I reckon the Brother could talk to the mods and come up with a solution about whatever upseting him, modify the posts to make it acceptable, putting links, deleting posts or whatever is most appropriate. We don't need to be involved as Kurt said. Though we have a right to know that the site maybe shut down.
I hope you?ll be able to fix the problem without having the site shut down. And we should forgive our brothers and sisters for our shortcomings; accept that we all make mistakes and inshallah work to fixing them At least try and trust in God
Asalamu alaikum
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Peace Mehdiand all,
This is all so ridiculous. The egomaniacal reason why you guys took out the option for a member to be able to delete their own posts was so lame that it's a perfect representation of the board.
So I guess the threat is justified then. )Why is it so hard to understand that there is a set of rules to be followed to be a member here. As there are on countless boards. If one doesn't like these rules or prefers to make up their own as they go along, then why stay? Even worse, why join then leave then join then leave... FIVE times! And then demand their posts to be deleted or else kill the board? Please.
Excellent points Kyle. )
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Look, maybe he is a bit paranoid (or just weird). But I would say that if this is a "free" forum, then I guess people should have the ability to delete whatever the hell they want. If he really wants to do that, let him. I am disappointed with this threat from him (or her), I didnt think he would take it this far. But, again, maybe theres a good reason for him to remove his posts, i mean, there could be. so if there is a way for the mods to remove his posts, then please do it.
I would like it if he would post on this thread and explain his rather strange behavior.
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Peace Be Upon You All
Be still. I see alot of ego being played out here. It seems everyone involved has their egos at stake and must be right at all costs...even if it hurts others.
I've done it too many times in my life where I fight and I plot and I yell just to manipulate and save my ego no matter what it does to others. But never once did it really satisfy me. It was always a short lived happiness chased away by incredible guilt for what my hands have sewn.
I think this has spiraled out of control... I agree with Brother Kurt, why not keep this in private? Eventually this will pass but this thread will remain as a witness to this public lynching.
And I also agree with Brother Kyle, why not let the penis picture go? Let it go and move on with life instead of pouring energy into bringing down a whole website that is a bank of knowledge, information and ideas - many of which are your own. No good could come of doing thatI hope nobody takes offense to my opinion
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Salam Zenje,
Peace Mehdiand all,So I guess the threat is justified then. )
Not at all. The point is you guys made up a ridiculous rule just for apperance sake and nothing else. The reasons I see the mods here make more rules is simply because they are getting out of hand with their ideas to control this board in their ways. I understand that there are rules for good reasons yet this is not one of them, and this is first time I've spoken out on this particulare one. I didn't say a peep until this thread was made and we see you guys actually went so far and pissed off someone to the point that they felt they have to resort to this type of threat!
The egomaniacal reason why you guys made that rule is so out of line that it never made any sense. The reasoning behind it is completely unnecessary. If someone deletes their own posts it does not make other members look stupid, if anything the person who deletes their own post deletes any argument they had towards their own view only. Also, this is why we can use's quotes of other members in our own posts.
Of course the mods will continue to hide behind the rules they make in this lil world they try and control, then cry foul when they piss someone off so much that the person feels he has to go that far to make their point! Any of this sound familure Zenje? So no, it's not justifying it Zenje, it's just a product of a very bad choice made by you guys. peace
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Peace all.
The egomaniacal reason why you guys made that rule is so out of line that it never made any sense. The reasoning behind it is completely unnecessary. If someone deletes their own posts it does not make other members look stupid, if anything the person who deletes their own post deletes any argument they had towards their own view only. Also, this is why we can use's quotes of other members in our own posts.
Yeah. Those who don't want to look stupid later on, should use quotes of the other members when replying to them.
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Peace all
Just for the record who is this person and why not mention his name is he Magi hail .If not could moderaters not keep us in suspence and let us no who he or she is.
I missed the Penis post it was deleted before I could see it brickwall so I am not sure if I would be offended or not .I can see both sides point and all I see is a lot of prick waveing by both sides.
by the way how long left I have to prepare my self .
peace salim
