heaven, hell - environment and how to get there?
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peace,
i would like to know about what kind of place afterlife is. yes it's a state of mind, but where do we experience that state of mind?
is it just a void, where we feel happy or miserable? (i don't think so though)
is it a magical place, like described in fairy tales?
or is it just another earth like this one?there is a surah in quran dedicated to just heaven, and mentioning of 'no human or jinn ever seen it', ok since jinn can refer to fantasy, it'd mean like we can't even imagine, fantasize about this next life... so if it is earth, how could we not imagine it?... we're here right now.
but then again there is mentioning of a new universe being created and us coming back, plus we'd stay there as long as new heaven and earth exist, also morning and evening is mentioned... so it would imply it being just another earth.
i don't know, so i ask... what do you all think?
also, the getting there part.
who gets to go there?
i am starting to believe in a multiple lives theory, as it would explain many things.some say this life is the only chance we have, only 1 life to do something to go to this heaven (or hell)... could that be? what qualifies then, has one who does nothing and is in no means of doing anything productive equal to one who fights and strives? have they both earned a blissful state?
what about for example kids that suffer and die...(before age, lets say, 5) where would they go? have they earned to be in a state of bliss on the other side? have they done as much good, positive, productive things as someone else (the prophets lets say) ?what i figured is we need to be mature/evolved to a certain extent in order to exist in a better place in the afterlife... and until then, we'd keep returning to this earth in order to develope to that level.
what do you think?
thanks
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Peace nerspi
no ins or jinn have seen like it - it doesn't exist yet? Might be a good starting point. I came across a website (probably shouldnt do this) but its called deenresearchcentre.com or something like that.
There is an article there about cosmic evolution. I think you might like to have a good read of it. It totally changed my mindset about a lot of things. As ever, please verify for yourself...
Getting there - we evolve to get there. Your 'soul' or self needs to be trained. Like anything if you make it a habit it becomes natural. It comes easy. Like practicing kung fu, the more you do it, the more innate it becomes. I think it is the same for us. By all means do kung fu, but better is to help mankind move forward. Doing a kind thing. Just one a day will change your life. Make it an intention and actually try to do it. You will find yourself smiling a lot more. People will notice and become happier for it. I know, I've been there. It's almost second nature now. Just need to do more. That is one problem, you will feel some satisfaction, but each time you do something good it gets better and better...
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Hello guys...
This is an interesting subject to discuss...
In my current understanding, the afterlife is just another dimension of realms where souls that leave the physical body will stop by and decides what to do next. This realm is a non-physical realm.... it is less dense and less focused in terms of energy. This physical world has a focussed energy where it is so dense and focused it can confine itself and combine with other particles of energy that can form a material, the material in my term is just a collection of membranes that when it collides with other membranes will need a certain force to transform to a new form of energy. It is different in the non-physical. It is so less dense, it can become anything that the perceivers can perceive. In other words, some soul might see this certain type of energy as an angel, or some would perceive it as a light, or some just cannot be aware of it's presence. This what i would call a higher realm, requires the perceivers awareness level and understanding to be able to perceive new things. The perceivers is you and me. The aware and intelligent becoming source of energy. The soul like the most of us call it. Our soul is always expanding, evergrowing and everchanging.
I hope i am clear on the difference between physical and non-physical realm.
Now lets talk about this realm of heaven and hell. Imagine this non-physical realm, so sensitive the thoughts of it's creator... and in this case, human... collectively focused and have been given the form by them from the thought. I would call this a thought form. This places will be seen as real and vivid as it be due to less distortion of the physical world, depends on the perceivers allowance on how much details that it can accept. The mechanics behind this is about tuning to the right vibration. Since heaven is created by the thoughts of most religious beliefs and with a collaboration of other intelligent and experienced entities, certain emotions are also attached to this places. Emotions is the key to attraction and rejection. Imagine when you go to mosque and churches and other sacred places that have been agreed by men. There's a feeling of peacefulness and serenity in there... depends on the compatibility or belief of that person to that believed sacred area. But due to the difference of densities in this physical world and the non-physical, the emotions attached to those thought forms are much much higher. Thus, those who are "in tune" with that places will perceive this emotions and receive a somewhat peaceful, happiness and serenity... but with a higher range due to the lesser densities as i have mentioned. What about hell? It's a place of rejection i suppose. Don't think about that much, it is not important for me anymore... attraction is the key... just think about the good stuff, you will then start to perceive only good stuffs. Soon, you will get used to think of happy and fun stuff, you will just cannot think of anything else other than good stuff. It's like learning kungfu like our brother had said.
Talk about satisfaction. This souls is nature is to expand and grow. Once we are in tuned with this, we will have the urge to grow and expand. I perceive this expansion as experience. The more mature you are (not in age terms), the more you will likely to perceive a higher aspects of the universe and yourself. The more you will be able to gather new data and technically you will expand. You just cannot return to become your previous self (you inexperienced self), but you can perceive you previous self from your "now self" point of view.
some say this life is the only chance we have, only 1 life to do something to go to this heaven (or hell)... could that be?
Yes we have this 1 lifetime... In this current body in this time space. It is really a rare opportunity for you and me and us to live here in this time. I perceive this as a valuable thing and i will treasure this life and live to fullest. Spending all the moments of this time experiencing this world. Figuring out new things, desiring things that we do not have, doing service to others or self to achieve the feeling of satisfaction and happiness, creating things that have been inspired to us, experiencing and testing the creations in this world, gathering new data, making a good memories, interacting with another soul... a lot of stuffs can be done, you just have to be creative... So it is really a waste to say that this life is boring or depressing. Just don't get too involved or addicted though. It can trap you. A knowing of when to pull out from it is important. It requires some intent, awareness, focus and discipline.
what i figured is we need to be mature/evolved to a certain extent in order to exist in a better place in the afterlife... and until then, we'd keep returning to this earth in order to develop to that level.
What you figured is correct to your understanding for now. But later on you will discover that, at the end it is rather the choice of the soul either to return again due to the feeling of incomplete and need to gather more information for self, to help others to evolve or just returned because they are attracted to a certain aspect of this world. Once the soul perceives that it's journey in this world is complete then they will choose to move on to a new horizon. To perceive new experience. Isn't it interesting to figure out the unknown?
Hope this helps.. thanks for reading.
Peace peace
Edit I missed this question
also, the getting there part.
I'm not capable on telling you how to get there... for me it's not the issue. The important thing is to be open enough so that you perceive the information that you have requested. An intent is a good start. A focus to this intent is the most likely second step. Start to be aware of the new signals from the request of the intent is the third step. Then you will realize you are receiving this information, part by part, bits by bits depends on the level on how much you can accept the information. The information received will be interpreted and gathered solely by you. It's common that you might miss some stuff. Just keep on going to your intended path and you will reach there. No one else can prove it for you. It is a personal discovery IMHO. You have to prove it to yourself. jedi . It's a non-physical stuff, you just can't relate it with our current understanding of space and time.
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Thanks darcus... it's really nice to hear your thought. We know kung fu now... laugh (remembering Neo tells Morpheus that he knows kung fu <so cool!>
I don't think this would meet free-mind standards for an article due to lack of Quranic reference... but it's enough at least for me to answer the OP question... yes
I just know the fundamental of this process, based from others collective experiences. But to actually know what is there, we have to be there and personally verify it for ourselves. The problem is you have to be dead to experience it. Lol. There are other ways like doing Out of body, NDE, or just feel the feeling of it. Try to think about heaven in any sacred places that you like. For Muslim i believe Mecca and mosque is the best place. The vibration of heaven is very high there. Billions of Muslims agreed that Mecca is a sacred place. Imagine the energy that it have. In that place just close your eyes and allow the feeling to come. The purer the intent, the easier it is to perceive the signal. It is indeed a lovely and memorable feeling. It's so indescribable, only tears will come out. )
Thanks again for reading. handshake
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It doesn't have to be at any sacred place tho. But it does help. Sometimes a song, a movie, words, thoughts about God's creation or even some unexpected event can trigger this connection with the signal. When it comes, just allow it. And you know it's true. Enjoy. yay