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Abraham and idol worshippers

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    Angel
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    675 We gave Abraham insight, the ability to reflect, into the Mighty Dominion
    of the Universe so that he might attain firm conviction.

    676 (Some of his people were idolaters and others were Nature worshipers.)
    One night when it grew dark upon him he saw a planet (Venus). Abraham
    exclaimed to them, ?This is my Lord!? But when it went down, he said, ?I love
    not the things that go down.?

    677 (The other night) when the moon was rising, he exclaimed, ?This is my
    Lord." But when it went down, he said to himself and to the people, ?Unless
    my Lord guides me, I surely will go astray.?

    678 (In the morning) he saw the sun rising in splendor, and he said, ?This is
    my Lord! This is greater!? But, as the sun went down, Abraham exclaimed, ?O
    My people! I am free from all that you associate with God.?

    679 ?I have focused firmly on Him Who initiated the heavens and the earth;
    as an upright man I turn away from all that is false. I will never be an idol
    worshiper in any form.?

    I find Abraham?s sarcastic attitude somewhat confusing, I think he?s being kinda arrogant as well. Is this sort of attitude condoned in Islam? ???

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      I'm don't think Abraham was being sarcastic, nor arrogant. He was a man in search of God. He thought he'd found it, but then looked deeper and realized that God was not some item he could look upon but something greater. In his revelation he burst forth with his knowledge to his people.

      He had a "Eureka!" moment..

      Peace,

      Nurd

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        367 Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist submitter. He never was an idol worshiper.

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          lovelymoslems
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          367 Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist submitter. He never was an idol worshiper.

          Not idol worshiper was an Abraham proclamation that he would never be a follower of Nimrod - a Babylonian king - who adopted his own idiology to maintain his nation and people. He become Allah's diin follower thereafter and forever.

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            Peace Angel,

            A better translation would be as follows

            367 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who submitted; he was not of those who set up partners.

            The God does not need to be worshipped. He wants us to serve/obey Him not because He needs it but so that we can help ourselves by following His laws for our own benefit.

            Abraham never set up partners with The God. 675-79 talk about his THOUGHT PROCESS in trying to find The God, not who he served or worshipped. Instead of temporarily saying to the planet, or the moon, or the sun "this is my lord" due to a misunderstanding while he was searching for The God, if he would have said "this is my lord and I serve/worship him" or "this is my lord and I also have another lord" or "I believe that this is my lord", and would have actively started serving/worshipping the false deity, then he would have been one of those who set up partners with The God.

            This shows that, while searching for The God, if one just hypothetically/mistakenly states that an entity other than The God is god WITHOUT BELIEF OR ACTUALLY SERVING/WORSHIPPING that entity, and quickly repents and starts serving and believing in The God on finding Him, then one is not an idolater or setting up partners with The God.

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              Thanks for that excellent explanation Tanveer. I agree wholeheartedly.

              Peace,
              Tay

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                Yosemite
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                Yes, i understood many stuff with this. Thanks.

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                  Jack
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                  I find Abraham?s sarcastic attitude somewhat confusing, I think he?s being kinda arrogant as well. Is this sort of attitude condoned in Islam?

                  i dont believe he's being sarcastic ....more logical... he also tried to use logic to prove his father wrong (i.e. the idols can't talk etc...) hoping his father would veer to the right path....

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                    I find Abraham?s sarcastic attitude somewhat confusing, I think he?s being kinda arrogant as well. Is this sort of attitude condoned in Islam? ???

                    Yes, logic, reasoning, a continual search for knowledge, and the building up of said knowledge over time are not only condoned by Islam, but they are also its fundamental principles.

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