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Photography/Pictures/Movies Versus Koran

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    Yosemite
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    People today are questioning if Jesus was black or white. I think it's better to have no representation of Mohamed.

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      nerspi
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      peace

      jesus was brown, right? like any man you today in the middle east. certainly not like james caviezel.

      but still, even if we don't know what muhammad looks like we could still show him in movies. i would use people who live in arabia or surraunding countries.

      since we're talking about movies, would it be ok to make a movie of the qur'an?

      kind of like that movie in the beginning, where they show lives of most of the messangers.

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        Peace all,

        Quote from "moby"
        Note For those who are as ancient as I am may remember that when this movie was first shown worldwide in the mid-70s, there were a lot of embassy burnings and protests in the Islamic world.

        Not only in the Islamic world but also in the US where a radical Muslim group took control of two buildings and some hostages, threatening to torch everything they controlled, if the movie was allowed exhibition in the US.

        The original name of this movie was ?Muhammad the messenger of God? and was then changed to Message after the riots.

        The general public/protestors didn?t know in the beginning that the movie was financed and directed by the Muslims and the blame ?for this kind of blasphemy? was laid on ?..You know which lobby.

        It was banned in Pakistan, before this movie they had already banned ?the ten commandments? two decades earlier??.then in the early 80?s with the arrival of VCR came the opportunity for those who wanted to see this movie??.Pervaiz Musharraf?s government surprised everyone and antagonized the radical faction when GEO TV was allowed not only to telecast the movie several time, but also allowed them to dub it in URDU for the common man to understand.

        In my personal opinion it is a fantastic movie and the Message it deliver negates the teachings of mullahs in Pakistan.

        peace

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          honor
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          Salam All,

          I have seen the movie "The message" and loved it! I also own the movie " Lion of the Desert." Great movie too! Has anyone seen the " Last Temptation of Christ"? I saw it when I was about 8 yrs old. And I will never forget the uproar and riots that occured after that movie. It has been banned since, and I don't even think you can find a copy now.

          Honor

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            AaRoN
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            you can order the last temptation of christ on amazon

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              Samia
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              People today are questioning if Jesus was black or white. I think it's better to have no representation of Mohamed.

              but still, even if we don't know what muhammad looks like we could still show him in movies. i would use people who live in arabia or surraunding countries.

              Some hadiths describe Muhammad in details colour, eyes, eyebrows, hair, beard, body....so we that can have a "picture" of him!!

              The shi'a draw pictures of Ali ad his sons. I am not sure if they do Muhammad.

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                Peace all,

                I think we cannot give any image to God and majority of the Muslims consider Prophet Mohammad next to God and sometimes almost God so thats why in the movie they chose not to show the Prophet.

                Hamsa

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                  The Jinn made statues for Solomon, so it is clear images and statues are allowed, only we must not worship them. The restriction on images comes from the Jews, like most of the Sunnah.

                  3412 And unto Solomon, We committed the wind at his disposal. (He
                  mastered the science of sailing and his ships sailed much faster than the
                  others) They sailed one month going and one month coming back. And We
                  gave him abundance in mining of copper and minerals and subdued for him
                  the Wild Tribes who worked for him by his Lords leave. (Solomon established
                  the Divine System such that) whoever turned aside from Our Command, We
                  made him taste a severe punishment (2182, 3837)

                  3413 They worked for him as he desired, making forts, sculptures and
                  images, pools, and boilers well-dug into the ground. We said, Labor O
                  Children of David, in gratitude for what you have been given. Few of My
                  servants are truly grateful in practice.

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                    peace bro arnold yasin,

                    Thank you for posting 3413, this verse will be my reference against pro taliban supporters, who support the blasting of "the statues of Buddha" in banyan, Afghanistan.

                    please allow me to point out that the other translators have either used "images" or have used "statues/scriptures, none have used "sculptures and images" in their translation.

                    peace

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                      honor
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                      you can order the last temptation of christ on amazon

                      Salam AaRon~

                      Wow! Thanks for the info, I cannot believe they sell it, when I was young this was majorly banned. Thanks!

                      Honor

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                        AaRoN
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                        yeah after grand theft auto and southpark have been around for so long i bet alot of people are like "i miss the days of the last temptation of christ when being offended was so much more simple"

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                          palestina
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                          peace,

                          back to the subject of pictures being haram - i think this was a later development in islam as it spread to places like the african continent - where belief in superstition was/is widespread.... parts of that person (like hair clippings, nail clippings, blood etc) were used for voodoo... and a voodoo doll is an "image" of that person.... so naturally an image would be something to fear - and a new hadith sprung up perhaps?

                          I have also heard that some cultures believe an image of you will take away a piece of your soul - maybe this belief also lead to the hadiths about no images?

                          So when photography and films were invented - this superstition had long been established as a command from god prohibiting imagery/statues etc...

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