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Is this bloody war between Sunnis and Shia over Khilafat ?

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    Raj-ah
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    Bahgat

    throw you into confusion, (making you) of different parties" those differnt parties as we see them fighting today is prophecied in the Quran "and make some of you taste the fighting of others

    woow

    Allah makes us confuse
    Allah makes us fight

    dear Bahgat is that Right?

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      Samia
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      So by searching in falsehood I will find the original confused!!

      You mean a chapter is missing in Quran? !!!

      You mean you do not know, whereas you are searching hadiths to prove that that the reason of Shi'a-Sunni conflict is Khilaafa? This missing chapter is another evidence, not just the extra verses.

      I am happy to see such forging which may bring attention of people like you to the truth.

      Let me show an example.
      I am not sure if your name

      This is not my name . You have already forged the spelling. In fact, the spelling you provided is not the Arabic way to write nouns.

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        unknownuser
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        Bahgat
        woow

        Allah makes us confuse
        Allah makes us fight

        dear Bahgat is that Right?

        Well, the word confuse is not in the Arabic text, the Arabic text is "Yalbisakum Shaia Wa Yoziq Baddakum Baas Baad"

        for me it means, He will cause us to devide into sects then cause these sects to fight with each other so some should test the Baas of others

        Salam

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          unknownuser
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          Well, the word confuse is not in the Arabic text, the Arabic text is "Yalbisakum Shaia Wa Yoziq Baddakum Baas Baad"
          for me it means, He will cause us to devide into sects then cause these sects to fight with each other so some should test the Baas of others
          Salam

          Allah will cause us to divide???

          Brother Ahmed, as for I know Allah send his messengers and revelations to remove the divisions among the people they have created to fulfil their low desires.

          1664
          And We have not revealed to you the Book except that you may make clear to them that about which they differ, and (as) a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe.

          4214

          And they did not become divided until after knowledge had come to them out of envy among themselves; and had not a word gone forth from your Lord till an appointed term, certainly judgment would have been given between them; and those who were made to inherit the Book after them are most surely in disquieting doubt concerning it.

          And there are many Verses which clearly tells us not to divided like mushrikeen. Isn't it a contradiction?

          With Respect, Hamsa

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            Bahman
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            Peace.

            So by searching in falsehood I will find the original !!

            That is trail and error method. takes more than a life to find the truth from falsehood.
            It is like if I offer you GPS to find your way but you like try false ways to find the right way. ! Good Luck

            I have read some hadith after my conversion . Mostly are stories about life of Mohammed
            Burning Original Quran is history unless you have some evidence that it was not burned and still exist. Do you know where?

            This is not my name . You have already forged the spelling. In fact, the spelling you provided is not the Arabic way to write nouns.

            Dear I believe in God Alone Quran Alone
            Dear I believe in God Alone Quran Alone then I can not be a cheater or forger. I meant forging this.

            I checked google for

            And that is only an example how the interlocks on letters works may bring your attention to such superhuman structure.

            Do you write Samia in Arabic like this ?.

            How ever I did not forge that name it already exist.
            Peace.

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              Samia
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              Dear I believe in God Alone Quran Alone
              Dear I believe in God Alone Quran Alone then I can not be a cheater or forger. I meant forging this.

              Sorry I did not mean to be rude. I just used your word.

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                Samia
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                Do you write Samia in Arabic like this ?.

                , with taa marbuuta

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                  unknownuser
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                  Allah will cause us to divide???

                  Brother Ahmed, as for I know Allah send his messengers and revelations to remove the divisions among the people they have created to fulfil their low desires.

                  Hello

                  Actually I retreat my last comment, yes the word Yalbas translated by Shakir is accurate as far as I believe, the Arabic word "Yalbas" means cause confusion, or at least "cause to not to know", so the verse says as follow" Aw Yalbasakum Shaia", i.e. "Cause to divide into sects without them knowing that they are on the wrong path

                  1664
                  And We have not revealed to you the Book except that you may make clear to them that about which they differ, and (as) a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe.

                  1664 is a comeplling refutation to those who reject the hadith totally, however they don't listen

                  4214

                  And they did not become divided until after knowledge had come to them out of envy among themselves; and had not a word gone forth from your Lord till an appointed term, certainly judgment would have been given between them; and those who were made to inherit the Book after them are most surely in disquieting doubt concerning it.

                  And there are many Verses which clearly tells us not to divided like mushrikeen. Isn't it a contradiction?

                  a contradiction to what exactly?

                  the first verse is telling us that Allah is Qadir "Able" to cause us to divide into sects, that does not mean He is playing with us rather we desrved to be cursed because we left his Quran and pondered upon the man made hadith that clearly caused the division from the ifrst place

                  verse 4214 can be a description to those Muslims who ignored the Quran and pondered upon the man made hadith that backfired and caused them to divide into sects, in reality though Allah caused them to be misguided because they desrved to be as such and Allah is going to make them tyaste the fighting with each other.

                  what do you think the message of the verse then?

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                    AaRoN
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                    1664 is a comeplling refutation to those who reject the hadith totally, however they don't listen

                    not seeing what you're seeing in that... anyways, i guess if you already believe in some ahadith you will of course find the verses to back up that belief... rather a backwards way to do it, use a book to prove your preconceived notions rather than read what the book says, but have at 'er anyways )

                    oh i forgot - you're dismissed anyways

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                      unknownuser
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                      not seeing what you're seeing in that... anyways, i guess if you already believe in some ahadith you will of course find the verses to back up that belief... rather a backwards way to do it, use a book to prove your preconceived notions rather than read what the book says, but have at 'er anyways )

                      oh i forgot - you're dismissed anyways D

                      so if I'm dismissed, why you reply to my comments?, are you back on merlot again?

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