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    Angel
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    A while ago someone mentioned that the first suicide bombers in the Mid-East were Jews. Most people I know are clueless on the subject.

    Exactly who were these Jewish suicide bombers? What group were they involved in? and how come nobody seems to be aware of them?

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      Elke
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      Peace angel

      if too long go right to the end of the quote...

      Judges 16 (King James Version)
      King James Version (KJV)

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      Judges 16

      1Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her.

      2And it was told the Gazites, saying, Samson is come hither. And they compassed him in, and laid wait for him all night in the gate of the city, and were quiet all the night, saying, In the morning, when it is day, we shall kill him.

      3And Samson lay till midnight, and arose at midnight, and took the doors of the gate of the city, and the two posts, and went away with them, bar and all, and put them upon his shoulders, and carried them up to the top of an hill that is before Hebron.

      4And it came to pass afterward, that he loved a woman in the valley of Sorek, whose name was Delilah.

      5And the lords of the Philistines came up unto her, and said unto her, Entice him, and see wherein his great strength lieth, and by what means we may prevail against him, that we may bind him to afflict him; and we will give thee every one of us eleven hundred pieces of silver.

      6And Delilah said to Samson, Tell me, I pray thee, wherein thy great strength lieth, and wherewith thou mightest be bound to afflict thee.

      7And Samson said unto her, If they bind me with seven green withs that were never dried, then shall I be weak, and be as another man.

      8Then the lords of the Philistines brought up to her seven green withs which had not been dried, and she bound him with them.

      9Now there were men lying in wait, abiding with her in the chamber. And she said unto him, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And he brake the withs, as a thread of tow is broken when it toucheth the fire. So his strength was not known.

      10And Delilah said unto Samson, Behold, thou hast mocked me, and told me lies now tell me, I pray thee, wherewith thou mightest be bound.

      11And he said unto her, If they bind me fast with new ropes that never were occupied, then shall I be weak, and be as another man.

      12Delilah therefore took new ropes, and bound him therewith, and said unto him, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And there were liers in wait abiding in the chamber. And he brake them from off his arms like a thread.

      13And Delilah said unto Samson, Hitherto thou hast mocked me, and told me lies tell me wherewith thou mightest be bound. And he said unto her, If thou weavest the seven locks of my head with the web.

      14And she fastened it with the pin, and said unto him, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And he awaked out of his sleep, and went away with the pin of the beam, and with the web.

      15And she said unto him, How canst thou say, I love thee, when thine heart is not with me? thou hast mocked me these three times, and hast not told me wherein thy great strength lieth.

      16And it came to pass, when she pressed him daily with her words, and urged him, so that his soul was vexed unto death;

      17That he told her all his heart, and said unto her, There hath not come a razor upon mine head; for I have been a Nazarite unto God from my mother's womb if I be shaven, then my strength will go from me, and I shall become weak, and be like any other man.

      18And when Delilah saw that he had told her all his heart, she sent and called for the lords of the Philistines, saying, Come up this once, for he hath shewed me all his heart. Then the lords of the Philistines came up unto her, and brought money in their hand.

      19And she made him sleep upon her knees; and she called for a man, and she caused him to shave off the seven locks of his head; and she began to afflict him, and his strength went from him.

      20And she said, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And he awoke out of his sleep, and said, I will go out as at other times before, and shake myself. And he wist not that the LORD was departed from him.

      21But the Philistines took him, and put out his eyes, and brought him down to Gaza, and bound him with fetters of brass; and he did grind in the prison house.

      22Howbeit the hair of his head began to grow again after he was shaven.

      23Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand.

      24And when the people saw him, they praised their god for they said, Our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us.

      25And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson, that he may make us sport. And they called for Samson out of the prison house; and he made them sport and they set him between the pillars.

      26And Samson said unto the lad that held him by the hand, Suffer me that I may feel the pillars whereupon the house standeth, that I may lean upon them.

      27Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport.

      28And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.

      29And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.

      30And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

      31Then his brethren and all the house of his father came down, and took him, and brought him up, and buried him between Zorah and Eshtaol in the buryingplace of Manoah his father. And he judged Israel twenty years.

      so i guess samson was the first jewish suicide bomber....
      peace
      lk

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        cheers lk handshake

        which year was this in?

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          peace lk/Angel.

          Though the story doesn?t say how Samson practiced hair care, but certainly maintaining healthy hair and hair loss prevention has never been more important than it was to Samson.

          The story of Samson and Delilah shows the importance of hair care. Had Samson prevented hair loss and maintained healthy hair he would not have come to such an unfortunate end.

          peace

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            And that is why I recommend Pantene Pro V with added nutrients and proteins, for a longer lasting shine!

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              And it smells nice!

              Angel, here are some clues

              August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

              November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).

              November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

              July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

              Google is your friend

              peace

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                jankren
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                I LOL'd at the Samson story. D D

                And it smells nice!

                Angel, here are some clues

                August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

                November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).

                November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

                July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

                Google is your friend

                peace

                I dont see any reference of suicide attack in those reports.

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                  My bad brickwall

                  I read "suicide" and processed "terrorist".

                  peace

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                    Elke
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                    cheers lk handshake

                    which year was this in?

                    google is my best friend too ;D
                    ...On peut donc supposer que le pharaon Rams?s III (1184-1153 av. J.-C.) et le h?ros biblique Samson sont ? peu pr?s contemporains...

                    (One can suppose that Ramses (1184-1153 before Christ) and Samson were contemporaries or at least near in time)

                    peace lk

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                      My bad brickwall

                      I read "suicide" and processed "terrorist".

                      still very helpful info indeed

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                        Alen
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                        Salam.

                        I think i might write a whole script about suicide bombers, after all, there is sooooo much material here. Thanks sisters, brothers.

                        By the way when it comes to taking a life, orthodox Christians (yes, communists) have the highest killing rate. Communists commit more suicides then anyone else in the world. Check Russia, Serbia, Romania, Bolgaria, Hungary, .... you know, Eastern Europe. brickwall elektro

                        Peace.

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                          Angel
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                          Thanks Tay!

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                            palestina
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                            jewish suicide bombers?

                            well ive never heard of that - but id imagine it would have been the haganah, etzel, lechi... or some other group like that .....

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                            Oh i just came across a site

                            The first suicide attacks were the Jewish zealots in Zakari in the 1st century AD - fighting the roman occupation....

                            you can listen to the report
                            http//www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4760240

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                              unknownuser
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                              Salam, Ay

                              We have already established that Samson was the first Jewish suicide bomber. rotfl

                              Jewicide?

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                                palestina
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                                hahaha sorry i missed that bit! just went back up there n read it! lol

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                                  Making fun of other nations is wrong.

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                                    jankren
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                                    Anyone has read Dying To Win?

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                                      Angel
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                                      Making fun of other nations is wrong.

                                      who's making fun of what? ???

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                                        Anyone has read Dying To Win?

                                        nope.... should i? whos it by?

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                                          The first suicide bomber was a The Cult of the Suicide Bomber

                                          day bomber from the Iran-Iraq war to the Middle Eastern streets of today. THE CULT OF THE SUICIDE BOMBER reveals the secret history of the suicide bomber Footage of suicide bombing attempt. New DVD explores the history and mystery of suicide bombing. Their devastating and deadly actions punctuate the world news almost nightly, yet they remain faceless figures amidst the violence and turmoil that engulf the Middle East. And, whether it's the C4-laden martyrs of Hezbollah or the car bombing insurgents of Iraq, what could possibly compel a suicide bomber to voluntarily take their own lives, along with those of hundreds of innocent victims? There is perhaps no one better equipped to investigate this terrifying practice than Robert Baer, a decorated, former Middle East CIA Agent and the man George Clooney's character was based on in the Academy Award?-winning film, Syriana.

                                          In the groundbreaking and acclaimed documentary, THE CULT OF THE SUICIDE BOMBER, Baer returns to his former center of operations to trace the origins of the modern day bomber from the Iran-Iraq war to the Middle Eastern streets of today.

                                          THE CULT OF THE SUICIDE BOMBER reveals the secret history of the suicide bomber, from the child martyrs of the Iran-Iraq war, the truck bombers in southern Lebanon, to the young men and women who now strap explosives to their bodies and calmly blow themselves up in crowded streets and markets across the Middle East.

                                          Baer also reveals the fascinating story of the world's first suicide bomber, 13-year-old Hossein Fahmideh -- who was martyred in the Iran-Iraq war and is now a hero in
                                          13 years old iranian boy who blown up an iraqi tank.

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