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Dr Zakir Naik

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    tux
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    Peace

    peace to all,

    recently I have seen a talk show of this guy and it seems he kinda replaced ahmed deedat and very influencial. He has been appearing on media alot. What do you ppl think of his speach ?

    peace

    What do you think of his speach?

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      shamsul-arefin
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      Peace

      peace to all,

      recently I have seen a talk show of this guy and it seems he kinda replaced ahmed deedat and very influencial. He has been appearing on media alot. What do you ppl think of his speach ?

      peace

      What do you think of his speach?

      I think his speach might be very influential to the traditionalist and morderanized sunnis. I didnt like him saying the liberty of womens in western country are exploitation of body or degrading soul.

      peace

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        New_friend
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        Peace

        peace to all,

        recently I have seen a talk show of this guy and it seems he kinda replaced ahmed deedat and very influencial. He has been appearing on media alot. What do you ppl think of his speach ?

        peace

        What do you think of his speach?

        I think his speach might be very influential to the traditionalist and morderanized sunnis. I didnt like him saying the liberty of womens in western country are exploitation of body or degrading soul.

        peace

        Salaam for all

        His speach is wise and sober ,he respect our minds .

        thanks

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          Elke
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          Salam New Friend,,

          Aren't you confusing "liberty " which is a very discussable thing - your liberty stops exactly where somebody elses starts - and "exploitation" ? Or do I get it wrong and you're talking about his speach in general and are not responding to shamsalarefin ?

          Exploitation of body does lead to degradation of souls, ok for that - but this goes for male and female and has nothing to do with liberty or freedom.

          Elke

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            loli
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            Salam.

            I saw his debate with some christian guy.. on Quran. Bible and science..It is a good debate, and raise out some clever points.
            one of his points is

            004.082 Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.
            wink

            But it is sad when he still wear that "head gear" when there is no such orders from God to wear them in The Quran

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              zenje
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              Ah, I remember the good ol days when I used to watch Ahmed Deedat tapes and go argue with christians about how 'wrong' their religion is. lol

              All that time pointing, criticizing and blaming others... instead of looking at myself. roll

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                shamsul-arefin
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                I think what he is trying to say is that, the culture or wearing short dress or such which shows parts of you body such as legs or back or tummy is one way of exploitation of the body.

                But I understand that its the freedom of choice which allows a person either he/she wants to exploit the body or not OR does the person even think like that ? If one person chose to show her/his body than who am I to say you cant ?? Different ppl understands freedom in different way. Isnt it better to have choices rather than having none under sharia law ??

                What I would say is that these academicaly educated so called leaders/scholars are also exploiting the mind of others to cage them within four walls, to take away the freedom to choose, to restrict our mind to bring under vail, drown ppl into meterialistic thinking, and lastly kill the growth of spirit.

                At least west ppl have the choise to either show their body or not but the traditionalist even doesnt have that.

                And I think a soul is more degraded when a person is ashamed of his/her God given body and tries to hide it in very possible way and cant accept is normaly. I dont understand why they have to stick the sexual lust tag to all naked part of the body. It seems like they are always looking at girls with lust glasses on!!??

                peace

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                  yfn123
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                  Greetings with peace,

                  Salam.
                  But it is sad when he still wear that "head gear" when there is no such orders from God to wear them in The Quran

                  That's not an major issue. One can claim that there no such order from God that one should not wear them. If, in fact, there is any such order, please let me know so that I can stand corrected. )

                  By the by, has God ordered you to type with the keyboards? Or how about, has God ordered you not to type with the keyboards? Think about that. )

                  Anwar Azim

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                    Fahad1
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                    salam
                    can somebody get this zakir naik guy to debate with edip yuksel on tv ? i have seen his debates. he is very popular and he is misleading many .

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                      Kashif
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                      Does anyone know if Dr Zakir Naik gave a talk/debate on/with Quran only Muslims?

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                        jankren
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                        I used to like Zakir Naik, but I changed my mind when I found out that he equated apostasy as treason which is punishable by death ...

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                          Yosemite
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                          Greetings with peace,

                          That's not an major issue. One can claim that there no such order from God that one should not wear them. If, in fact, there is any such order, please let me know so that I can stand corrected. )

                          By the by, has God ordered you to type with the keyboards? Or how about, has God ordered you not to type with the keyboards? Think about that. )

                          Anwar Azim

                          So far all limitations i saw in the Quran were for the betterment of the society.

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                            Munshi
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                            Yesterday I was watching this discussion between Dr Zakir Naik and Sri Ravi Shankar.The topic in discussion was GOD with an audience of over 20000 asking questions.The main difference between both moderators was the manner in which they were answering the questions , I was really impressed by the way Sri Ravi shankar was replying to the taunting questions from our muslim brothers, he was very polite , very sincere although the audience tried their best to make him angry but he stuck to his task in saying that I am not here to get converted to islam , from head to heart I have accepted my religion.Even Dr Zakir Naik was taunting Sri Ravi by quoting verses from Vedat and other books that Muhammad was even prophesized in their religion.

                            The worst part is that our Sunni/Shia brothers think that they are guided and on the right path and all others have bought tickets to go to hell.

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                              Jack
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                              not defending shias/sunnis but just about every religion feels this way

                              welcome Munshi ! sun

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                                Yesterday I was watching this discussion between Dr Zakir Naik and Sri Ravi Shankar.The topic in discussion was GOD with an audience of over 20000 asking questions.The main difference between both moderators was the manner in which they were answering the questions , I was really impressed by the way Sri Ravi shankar was replying to the taunting questions from our muslim brothers, he was very polite , very sincere although the audience tried their best to make him angry but he stuck to his task in saying that I am not here to get converted to islam , from head to heart I have accepted my religion.Even Dr Zakir Naik was taunting Sri Ravi by quoting verses from Vedat and other books that Muhammad was even prophesized in their religion.

                                The worst part is that our Sunni/Shia brothers think that they are guided and on the right path and all others have bought tickets to go to hell.

                                That's a pet peeve of mine from all these televised debates. The "muslim" will always talk rubbish and resort to a thousand fallacies to prove his point.

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                                  Roshan
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                                  The worst part is that our Sunni/Shia brothers think that they are guided and on the right path and all others have bought tickets to go to hell.

                                  Peace

                                  Isn't this what we all think?

                                  Roshan

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                                    Munshi
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                                    Peace

                                    Isn't this what we all think?

                                    Roshan

                                    Yes we do , but we have tolerance when it comes to other religions , whereas in Sunni's school of thought i should be killed for converting from sunnism to believing in quran only.The point I was making is that tolerance shown by Sri Ravi which was very much non existence from Dr Zakir Naik

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                                      amuslim
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                                      Peace,

                                      For the most part, I personally like Dr Zakir Naik. He is very knowledgeable and is able to quote verses from many different scriptures. I like his open question sessions the best as it shows his knowledge on various aspects.

                                      He says that we should only call outselves Muslim and talks against Maddhabs in relation to naming yourself. He hasnt said anything against Sunnis though, but I know he upholds hadith. He said that the only two Hadiths that need to be followed are Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari.

                                      I think he believes that everyone should be able to practice their religion, just not propagate it, which is considered treason to him.

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                                        jankren
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                                        Peace,

                                        For the most part, I personally like Dr Zakir Naik. He is very knowledgeable and is able to quote verses from many different scriptures. I like his open question sessions the best as it shows his knowledge on various aspects.

                                        Yes, what I like about him is that he is a very knowledgeable person. I think he is not really a bad person. I guess he probably just, like many other knowledgeable Muslims has never heard convincing argument about the belief of Quran only.

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                                          amuslim
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                                          Peace,

                                          Yes, what I like about him is that he is a very knowledgeable person. I think he is not really a bad person. I guess he probably just, like many other knowledgeable Muslims has never heard convincing argument about the belief of Quran only.

                                          Even here we all have different views regarding quran and life. Just because he believes death to apostates that "propagates" their religion, I dont think it makes him a bad guy. We all have faults in our own way as well. He's not really extreme like many others Ive heard about, and he seems very forthright in his belief. Just because hes not a Quran Alone person doesnt make me label him as a bad guy.

                                          Peace

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