Obelisk stoning
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yes, also....
One day I was reading how the first Muslim scientists drew the first world maps upside down.
With modern day world maps, it is easy to the miracle of viewing the world map this way, as the continents spell Allah, in arabic.
This would be useful for making people realise Islam is the truth. Does any of this have to do with the 2012 pole shift you think?
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Where?
http//img178.imageshack.us/img178/3334/worldmapon4.th.jpgNo resemblance, even with all vocals removed. Well, vague resemblance, anyway.
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so why do you think the illuminati purposely glorify this damned representation of evil, that we must stone?
Why should we stone it in the first place? Do we stone it because the illuminati glorify it? Should we stone the cows, for example, because some people hold them sacred?
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i know you are a moderator but i have seen that you do not have common sense.
it is one of the rituals of hajj that we must stone an obelisk.
after knowing this, the powers that be still choose to erect phalluses, obelisks and like -structures,, bastards -
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what is hajj
what is pilgrimmage
and why?
I have to agree, what reason would I have to go all the way to Mecca just to throw rocks and pray around a black box?
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Peace
I have to agree, what reason would I have to go all the way to Mecca just to throw rocks and pray around a black box?
While i have read what others say about Hajj=Debate and how pilgrimage is not to Mecca, even if its not true, there is valid points to doing it, whether Mecca or Jerusalem. Its like saying, "Why go to the Mosque?". Not that its going to send you to heaven or not, but you get to socialize with other believers, and lots of other things. To just downplay Hajj as what we traditionally know it, I believe is just as ignorant as following it.
Peace
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Salaam amuslim
So what should one do to not be ignorant? Not follow it but not downplay it in its traditional form? What would be the reason for not follow it if not because one downplays its traditional form?
To just downplay Hajj as what we traditionally know it, I believe is just as ignorant as following it.
Peace
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Salaam
Salaam amuslim
So what should one do to not be ignorant? Not follow it but not downplay it in its traditional form? What would be the reason for not follow it if not because one downplays its traditional form?
I think that people should just keep all possibilities open instead of rushing to conclusion on either sides. For example how some people automatically jump on Sunnis/Shias and then others automatically jump on Quran Alone people. Why cant Hajj and Pilgrimage mean going to a foreign land, because it doesn't make sense? There are good points to doing Hajj and Pilgrimage that one shouldnt just say "thats not what it meant in the quran".
Again Im not taking any sides, but I just feel like a lot of people just think on their side instead of the whole picture.
Peace
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It is amazing when you think about it. The ritual of stoning the obelisk at Hajj.
It is amazing because this negative view about this symbol is taken for granted and glorified by the global elite. Their everywhere.Salam.
When The Ezalted God The Most Powerful seals someone's heart, there's nothing we can do about it.
Peace.
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I'd like to know what the saoudi governement do about all the money the hajj makes. It cost a lot of money to take the plane to arabi saoudite.
It costs 800? to go to Japan, it's twice as far as arabia saoudia, it almost cost twice less money to go to japan.
Wonder what is counted in the expansive ticket to saoudia arabia from france.
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I'd like to know what the saoudi governement do about all the money the hajj makes. It cost a lot of money to take the plane to arabi saoudite.
It costs 800? to go to Japan, it's twice as far as arabia saoudia, it almost cost twice less money to go to japan.
Wonder what is counted in the expansive ticket to saoudia arabia from france.
One thing I know (at least until 2004) This money does not go to the national budget, i.e it does not form part of the national income
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Again Im not taking any sides, but I just feel like a lot of people just think on their side instead of the whole picture.
But thats my problem, I dont have the whole picture, thats why I was asking why I should make any sort of pilgrimage.