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Three Duties of "Rasool"(PBUH)

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    Leoxyz
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    Peace
    The following Aya clearly assigns three duties to the Holy Prophet (PBUH)
    2129
    Duty No 1

    Duty No.2

    Duty No. 3

    Anybody disagreeing with these duties ,please come up with reference backed arguments.
    Thanks

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      Wakas
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      peace,

      Can you clarify/explain what duties you derive from the references given.

      Thanks.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Peace,

        The ONE duty encompasses and fullfils all the rest.

        Example Reciting/conveying The Book and The Wisdom and purifying them
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/24/24_30.htm

        2430 Say to the BELIEVING MEN that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty that will make for greater purity for them And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

        These verses confirm the above...

        ? Al-Imran (The Family of Imran)>
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_20.htm

        ? Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) >
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/5/5_92.htm
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/5/5_99.htm

        ? Ar-Ra'd (The Thunder)>
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/13/13_40.htm

        ? An-Nahl (The Bee)>
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/16/16_35.htm
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/16/16_82.htm
        1682 But if they turn away, thy duty is only to preach the clear Message.

        ? Al-Nour (The Light)>
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/24/24_54.htm
        2454 Say "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).

        ? Al-'Ankabut (The Spider)>
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/29/29_18.htm
        2918 "And if ye reject (the Message), so did generations before you and the duty of the apostle is only to preach publicly (and clearly)."

        ? Ya-Sin (Ya-Sin)>
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/36/36_17.htm
        3617 "And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message."

        ? Ash-Shura (The Consultation)
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/42/42_48.htm

        ? At-Taghabun (Loss and Gain)
        http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/64/64_12.htm

        Please explain why you disagree with above verses?

        We are waiting for your reply.

        Thanks

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          Leoxyz
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          Peace,

          The ONE duty encompasses and fullfils all the rest.

          Example Reciting/conveying The Book and The Wisdom and purifying them
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/24/24_30.htm

          2430 Say to the BELIEVING MEN that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty that will make for greater purity for them And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

          These verses confirm the above...

          ? Al-Imran (The Family of Imran)>
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_20.htm

          ? Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) >
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/5/5_92.htm
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/5/5_99.htm

          ? Ar-Ra'd (The Thunder)>
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/13/13_40.htm

          ? An-Nahl (The Bee)>
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/16/16_35.htm
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/16/16_82.htm
          1682 But if they turn away, thy duty is only to preach the clear Message.

          ? Al-Nour (The Light)>
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/24/24_54.htm
          2454 Say "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).

          ? Al-'Ankabut (The Spider)>
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/29/29_18.htm
          2918 "And if ye reject (the Message), so did generations before you and the duty of the apostle is only to preach publicly (and clearly)."

          ? Ya-Sin (Ya-Sin)>
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/36/36_17.htm
          3617 "And our duty is only to proclaim the clear Message."

          ? Ash-Shura (The Consultation)
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/42/42_48.htm

          ? At-Taghabun (Loss and Gain)
          http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/64/64_12.htm

          Please explain why you disagree with above verses?

          We are waiting for your reply.

          Thanks

          Dear
          Look at this Aya
          2129
          (2129) Lord, raise up from among them a Messenger who shall recite Your Revelations to them and teach them the Book and Wisdom and purify their lives. *128 You art All-Powerful and AllWise
          There are three different verbs in a single sentence separated by "waw atifa".
          If you think these are synonymous (which no dictionary of arabic language can prove) ,then it means the Holy Quran is showing redundancy.
          Remember

          (446) Among those who have become Jews ,there are some who alter the words from their context,

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            Dear
            Look at this Aya
            2129
            (2129) Lord, raise up from among them a Messenger who shall recite Your Revelations to them and teach them the Book and Wisdom and purify their lives. *128 You art All-Powerful and AllWise
            There are three different verbs in a single sentence separated by "waw atifa".
            If you think these are synonymous (which no dictionary of arabic language can prove) ,then it means the Holy Quran is showing redundancy.
            Remember

            (446) Among those who have become Jews ,there are some who alter the words from their context,

            Dear ? thanks for at least one logical response; if you have info then simple convey it.

            Also, let?s leave Jews and cattle out of it and really don't want to discuss parrots and donkeys either.

            Now, did not the random example posted earlier fulfill all three duties?

            2430 Say to the BELIEVING MEN that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty that will make for greater purity for them And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

            1. Recites Revalation (i.e. say) ? obvious
            2. Conveys/teaches The Book and The Wisdom ? obvious
            3. Purifies them ? (i.e. removes unclean behavior) ? obvious

            As for redundancy in Qur'an, it's obvious once again so pay attention...

            Surah 55. The Beneficent, The Mercy Giving
            http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/quran/55.htm

            1. Most Gracious!
            2. Teacher of the Qur'an.
            3. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            4. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            5. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            6. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            7. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            8. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            9. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            10. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            11. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            12. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            13. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            14. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            15. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            16. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            17. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            18. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            19. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            20. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            21. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            22. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            23. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            24. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            25. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            26. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            27. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            28. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            29. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
            30. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            31. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            32. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
            33. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?

            Will you REMEMBER the 3 verses?

            Peace

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              Leoxyz
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              Dear ? thanks for at least one logical response; if you have info then simple convey it.

              Also, let?s leave Jews and cattle out of it and really don't want to discuss parrots and donkeys either.

              Now, did not the random example posted earlier fulfill all three duties?

              2430 Say to the BELIEVING MEN that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty that will make for greater purity for them And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

              1. Recites Revalation (i.e. say) ? obvious
              2. Conveys/teaches The Book and The Wisdom ? obvious
              3. Purifies them ? (i.e. removes unclean behavior) ? obvious

              As for redundancy in Qur'an, it's obvious once again so pay attention...

              Surah 55. The Beneficent, The Mercy Giving
              http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/quran/55.htm

              1. Most Gracious!
              2. Teacher of the Qur'an.
              3. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              4. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              5. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              6. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              7. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              8. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              9. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              10. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              11. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              12. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              13. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              14. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              15. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              16. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              17. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              18. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              19. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              20. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              21. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              22. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              23. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              24. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              25. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              26. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              27. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              28. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              29. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
              30. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              31. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              32. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-
              33. Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?

              Will you REMEMBER the 3 verses?

              Peace

              Another example of lack of knowledge about language.It means you do not know meaning of "Reduncy "in the language.
              What to discuss with you ?

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                Another example of lack of knowledge about language.It means you do not know meaning of "Reduncy "in the language.
                What to discuss with you ?

                Are you a linguist; then explain this verse?

                http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/33/33_35.htm

                3335 Inna almuslimeena waalmuslimati waalmumineena waalmuminati waalqaniteena waalqanitati waalssadiqeena waalssadiqati waalssabireena waalssabirati waalkhashiAAeena waalkhashiAAati waalmutasaddiqeena waalmutasaddiqati waalssaimeena waalssaimati waalhafitheena furoojahum waalhafithati waalththakireena Allaha katheeran waalththakirati aAAadda Allahu lahum maghfiratan waajran AAatheeman

                3335 For Muslim men and women,- for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in Charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise,- for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward.

                Why don?t you come out and say it ? all required examples are in Qur'an.

                You want to prove and say NO, there is other stuff too.

                OK then I?ll ask again ? please bring ONE example other than Qur?an?

                Show ONE hadith we should append to QUR?AN and tell us why?

                SIMPLE!

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                  AlFajr
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                  Leoxyz,
                  This is at least the second time you have criticized a persons knowledge of Arabic. You do realize that personal attacks whilst your debating with is not a good sign of the strength of your position?

                  Salam
                  Al

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                    Jack
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                    1854
                    Khalifa
                    We have cited in this Quran every kind of example, but the human being is the most argumentative creature.

                    Free-minds

                    And We have clarified in this Qur'an for the people from every example; but mankind was always most argumentative.

                    M.Asad

                    -THUS, INDEED, have We given in this Qur'an many facets to every kind of lesson for mankind. However, man is, above all else, always given to contention

                    Walaqad sarrafna fee hatha alqurani lilnnasi min kulli mathalin wakana alinsanu akthara shayin jadalan

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