Who is Zaid in this Aya??
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ANOTHER PEARL OF TRANSLATION BY A QURANIST
Actual Aya
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Sir ! Would you kindly tell me which words you have translated as "We have not made"
It will be a great help to learners like me.Mashallah and Subhanallah
The cat that eats its kittens is blind, stupid and unable to differentiate between what belongs to her and what belongs to the others.
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The cat that eats its kittens is blind, stupid and unable to differentiate between what belongs to her and what belongs to the others.
So you also think
maa ja3ala = We did not make ??Subhanallah & Mashallah
By the way who is teacher of all of you in Classical Arabic??
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So you also think
maa ja3ala = We did not make ??Subhanallah & Mashallah
By the way who is teacher of all of you in Classical Arabic??
I want to see that "Zamakhshari"That's what you understood from my comment confused? No wonder!! You really are a hopeless case as far as comprehension is concerned.
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?And We have not made whom you call with your tongues sons as your sons? {Refer 33{04}{Mazhar}
ANOTHER PEARL OF TRANSLATION BY A QURANIST
Actual Aya
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Sir ! Would you kindly tell me which words you have translated as "We have not made"
It will be a great help to learners like me.{Leoxyz}I had referred to only part of the Ayah which was relevant to the subject/point under discussion. The Ayah on the subject begins with the Name of Allah; ?Allah has not made/created/assigned?; and in the part of the Ayah cut from the original; ?We? does not mean Mazhar and Leoxyz but certainly it means and refers to Allah.
YUSUFALI Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way.
PICKTHAL Allah hath not assigned unto any man two hearts within his body, nor hath He made your wives whom ye declare (to be your mothers) your mothers, nor hath He made those whom ye claim (to be your sons) your sons. This is but a saying of your mouths. But Allah saith the truth and He showeth the way.
SHAKIR Allah has not made for any man two hearts within him; nor has He made your wives whose backs you liken to the backs of your mothers as your mothers, nor has He made those whom you assert to be your sons your real sons; these are the words of your mouths; and Allah speaks the truth and He guides to the way.
MOHAMMAD ESED God has not created two hearts inside any one human being. God does not consider your wives whom you renounce by zihar as your mothers nor those whom you adopt as your sons. These are only words of your mouth. God tells the Truth and shows the right path.
T.B. IRVING God has not placed two hearts in any man's body. Nor has He granted you wives whom you may back away from, to act as your mothers, nor has He granted your adopted sons to be your own sons. That is your own statement made by your own mouths. God states the Truth and He guides one along the Way. Call them after their own fathers; it is fairer so far as God is concerned. If you do not know who their fathers were, then your brothers in religion and your wards.I hope the aforsaid people were not termed/called/identified as "Quranists".
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Dear Leoxyz,
Now please translate only that part of the Ayah which I had pasted so that I could make amends and benefit.
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Dear friends
Who is Zaid in this Aya??3337
Salaam Leoxyz,
The answer is in the same verse; Recall that you said to the one who was blessed by GOD, and blessed by you, "Keep your wife and reverence GOD," and you hid inside yourself what GOD wished to proclaim. Thus, you feared the people, when you were supposed to fear only GOD. When Zeid was completely through with his wife, we had you marry her, in order to establish the precedent that a man may marry the divorced wife of his adopted son. GOD's commands shall be done.
I do not think there is any ambiguity..
Regards
Ijaz
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Dear Leoxyz,
You started this thread to indirectly suggest that the Quran is not complete to be understood independent of so called Hadith sources/man writrten history. After all this discussion what is your perception now? Whether you still need the hotch potch stories narrated by different people, like said "so and so" and then said "so and so" and then said so and so................? Have you seen now that the Quran is also so explicit and elaborative on the question of "Who is Zaid" leaving no room to be dependent upon story tellers?
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I think Leo xyz is a brain washed parrot from some Madras what he leaned from his Mullah that is correct, all others are wrong.
He will only agree if you tell him Mohm is above Allah,
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sitare toot jhayinge zameen per zalzala hoga
Mohd takht per honge adalat per khuda hoga -
Kaali kamly wale tum per lakoon salaam tum per
Ay duniya ke rakwale tum pe lakoon salaam tum pe
This hadithest can only understand the langu of his master the Mullah
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I had referred to only part of the Ayah which was relevant to the subject/point under discussion. The Ayah on the subject begins with the Name of Allah; ?Allah has not made/created/assigned?; and in the part of the Ayah cut from the original; ?We? does not mean Mazhar and Leoxyz but certainly it means and refers to Allah.
YUSUFALI Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah tells (you) the Truth, and He shows the (right) Way.
PICKTHAL Allah hath not assigned unto any man two hearts within his body, nor hath He made your wives whom ye declare (to be your mothers) your mothers, nor hath He made those whom ye claim (to be your sons) your sons. This is but a saying of your mouths. But Allah saith the truth and He showeth the way.
SHAKIR Allah has not made for any man two hearts within him; nor has He made your wives whose backs you liken to the backs of your mothers as your mothers, nor has He made those whom you assert to be your sons your real sons; these are the words of your mouths; and Allah speaks the truth and He guides to the way.
MOHAMMAD ESED God has not created two hearts inside any one human being. God does not consider your wives whom you renounce by zihar as your mothers nor those whom you adopt as your sons. These are only words of your mouth. God tells the Truth and shows the right path.
T.B. IRVING God has not placed two hearts in any man's body. Nor has He granted you wives whom you may back away from, to act as your mothers, nor has He granted your adopted sons to be your own sons. That is your own statement made by your own mouths. God states the Truth and He guides one along the Way. Call them after their own fathers; it is fairer so far as God is concerned. If you do not know who their fathers were, then your brothers in religion and your wards.I hope the aforsaid people were not termed/called/identified as "Quranists".
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Dear Leoxyz,
Now please translate only that part of the Ayah which I had pasted so that I could make amends and benefit.
You translated it like
?And We have not made whom you call with your tongues sons as your sons? {Refer 33{04}
Question is that of pronouns
In you translation the pronoun "we " is translation of which word??
So simple question -
Without reading you keep posting the post; find answer therein. The post in thread "Hel"l may also be helpful; please go there.
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I repeat the Question Its answe is just one word .YOU SAID
?And We have not made whom you call with your tongues sons as your sons? {Refer 33{04}""
My questions is "which word did you translate as "We" ?
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To elaborate the substance/concept of the statement instead of Allah "We" was placed therein. I was not translating the Ayah etymologically. Your Zamkhshari jee had also said like that
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{ }Find some difference in substance. Please also visit thread "Hell", it willhelp you understand. You are not responding on your theory Deen=Quran+Sunna!!
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To elaborate the substance/concept of the statement instead of Allah "We" was placed therein. I was not translating the Ayah etymologically. Your Zamkhshari jee had also said like that
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{ }Now You have provided absolute EVIDENCE OF HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE;IT IS DIAMOND >>>>> PEARL
Imam Tibri has used "third person sigular pronouns "Where are you finding "We' in them "
Imam Tibri was a sensible person not a Quranist.
I do not understand we are you shedding "Batkaas"
"Nach na jaanay aangan Tehra "The thing which I cannot understand is "Why do you people take shelter of Hadiths and Mufassirines?"
I do not believe in fabricated stuff of Hadiths
I do not believe in these Mufassirines.Why do you quote them? I am only concerned whatever is posted.
If I post something ,I am responsible for it.If I commit some mistake ,I will apologize provided you give evidence.By quoting Fabricated Hadiths and Mufassrines you people lick your own vomit.
Please do not do this heinous act. -
Now You have provided absolute EVIDENCE OF HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE;IT IS DIAMOND >>>>> PEARL
Imam Tibri has used "third person sigular pronouns "Where are you finding "We' in them "
Imam Tibri was a sensible person not a Quranist.
I do not understand we are you shedding "Batkaas"
"Nach na jaanay aangan Tehra "The thing which I cannot understand is "Why do you people take shelter of Hadiths and Mufassirines?"
I do not believe in fabricated stuff of Hadiths
I do not believe in these Mufassirines.Why do you quote them? I am only concerned whatever is posted.
If I post something ,I am responsible for it.If I commit some mistake ,I will apologize provided you give evidence.By quoting Fabricated Hadiths and Mufassrines you people lick your own vomit.
Please do not do this heinous act.Can you tell me what does this arabic sentence mean ?