A Quran related question to Quranists

ILisa

1The name of the person to whome Quran was revealed
2When was Quran revealed (how many yr back (4yr ,200 yr or 1400 yr back)
3 In which part of middle East was the Holy Quran revealed
4Who is Ahmed PBUH ? Are Muhammad and Ahme PbUH one person proof from the Quran please
5Were the Ihraab present on it when Quran was revealed ? If not who put them on the alphabets.

Greetings leoxyz,

I'd like to understand why you are pressing people to answer these questions. Are these issues that have been determined to be necessary for one's salvation from the state of hell? Or to reach the state of jannah? What's your goal here? Do you believe that one will not ever make it to 'jannah' unless one can answer them? &

If not, then this line of questioning has no foundation and is moot.

peace

Raj-ah

samia

To do what?

To do acrobats, I love watching them. D
o! oh! are you one of them?

Who wrote the Quran? Samia since you believe in Quran alone, my question to you is, The book you believe in as ultimate truth? who wrote it? who dictated these words??
Is this important or not?

Navid

This is comical

Samia

samia
To do acrobats, I love watching them. D
o! oh! are you one of them?

I am not one of them, nor is there any of them on this thread. So, who are you addressing?

Who wrote the Quran? Samia since you believe in Quran alone, my question to you is, The book you believe in as ultimate truth? who wrote it? who dictated these words??
Is this important or not?

Are these questions coming on the final Test (JD)? If not, why bother know the answers? If they are, how do you know?
If they are for this world, and so far I am doing fine not knowing them, then why would I start knowing them? (If it is working, don't fix it).

Elke

If I rely only on Quran which is fully explained and clear ,cann't it tell me to whome and when it was revealed ?

Peace leo,

this is not du to the author of quran or the book itself but the publisher.... you know, copyright, first editions aso These guys were no professionals nope

I really wonder why you absolutely try to proof that quran is not fully detailed and clear ? You want to attack what you call "quran aloners" but actually you attack your holy book itself which statements you don't seem to trust.

lk

TheNabi

Peace Leoxyz

I'm going to provide you with my take on the issues you've brought up.

Who was the person to whome "the Holy Quran " was revealed ?

One who recites and follows the reading before his audience but dares not meddle in its construction . ONe who is heard and not understood, looked at but not seen because he cannot make the deaf to hear nor point out to the blind . One who saw a great many things on the inspiration to be expounded .

When was the Holy Quran revealed ?

During a period of readiness it seems to me when one is a proper vehicle to bring it to its destination.

1100 yr back
2400 yr back
31000 yr back
41400 yr back

The quran is not bound by the parameters of time like the parchment upon which truth is written. It has been with mankind from the beginning of our misfortune.

Joe

Leoxyz

Are these questions coming on the final Test (JD)? If not, why bother know the answers? If they are, how do you know?
If they are for this world, and so far I am doing fine not knowing them, then why would I start knowing them? (If it is working, don't fix it).

The Quran claims
933
(933) He is Allah Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Right way so that He may make it prevail over all other ways, *32 even though the mushriks be much averse to it.

But practically we have made this "Deen" so helpless that it is not capable to answer a few simple question about itself.
How can it prevail over other "ways".
We cannot determine
1The name of the person to whome it was revealed
2How much time has elapsed that it was revealed
3Where was revealed
4What immediate effect did the quran had on the its follower
5Did the Quran enable the people to establish some examplary state or not ?
6What was the character of the "receiver " of this book ?Honest/dishonest ,Liar /truthful, Kind/cruel
7Why did this book produce "stupids only" so that none of its followers could understand the meanings of salat/Hajj/Masjidul-Haraam for 1400yrs.Only in 20th/21st century could see a few "intellectuals" who could understand these meanings.(Subhanallah)

unknownuser

The Quran claims
933
(933) He is Allah Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Right way so that He may make it prevail over all other ways, *32 even though the mushriks be much averse to it.

But practically we have made this "Deen" so helpless that it is not capable to answer a few simple question about itself.
How can it prevail over other "ways".
We cannot determine
1The name of the person to whome it was revealed
2How much time has elapsed that it was revealed
3Where was revealed
4What immediate effect did the quran had on the its follower
5id the Quran enable the people to establish some examplary state or not ?
6What was the character of the "receiver " of this book ?Honest/dishonest ,Liar /truthful, Kind/cruel
7Why did this book produce "stupids only" so that none of its followers could understand the meanings of salat/Hajj/Masjidul-Haraam for 1400yrs.Only in 20th/21st century could see a few "intellectuals" who could understand these meanings.(Subhanallah)

Muhammad.
Since 650AD at least.
Near Lut's people, in Arabia
See many verses of Quran. Some turned away with pride, others wept when they heard its recital and fell prostrate on their chins
Yes. 933. Authentic history (PHYSICAL EVIDENCE ONLY) also.
Honest, truthful, kind. Not so, according to Bukhari et al.
Did the "stupids" even read the book? Where is your evidence they were sincere believers, and is it based on physical authenticated evidence, or is it based on hearsay and conjecture? We will not be questioned as to previous people, and no soul will bear the burden of another except in the case of the misleader => WHAT THEY DID WAS IRRELEVANT.

As for "psuedointellectual", if only you knew...

Samia

7Why did this book produce "stupids only" so that none of its followers could understand the meanings of salat/Hajj/Masjidul-Haraam for 1400yrs.Only in 20th/21st century could see a few "intellectuals" who could understand these meanings.(Subhanallah)

Answer

The book does not produce stupid or smart people. Put your blame somewhere else.

5610 -14 "And those foremost in monotheism; those nearest to God; are in the Gardens of Delight; a multitude of them from the first generations; and a few of them from the later generations"

For God, numbers don't matter.

Leoxyz

Answer

The book does not produce stupid or smart people. Put your blame somewhere else.

5610 -14 "And those foremost in monotheism; those nearest to God; are in the Gardens of Delight; a multitude of them from the first generations; and a few of them from the later generations"

For God, numbers don't matter.

Could anyone understand for 1400yrs what is
-salat
-Hajj
-Masidul - Haram
Let me know
If no one could understand then what will you call it "sanity".

unknownuser

Could anyone understand for 1400yrs what is
-salat
-Hajj
-Masidul - Haram
Let me know
If no one could understand then what will you call it "sanity".

Please trim your centuries to 1200 years, because Sunni-ism never existed in an acceptable form for that period.

Let me guess, Jews never understood

-salat
-Hajj
-Masjidul - Haram

For so far, FIVE THOUSAND YEARS. Stupidity knows no bounds.

Leoxyz

Please trim your centuries to 1200 years, because Sunni-ism never existed in an acceptable form for that period.

Let me guess, Jews never understood

-salat
-Hajj
-Masjidul - Haram

For so far, FIVE THOUSAND YEARS. Stupidity knows no bounds.

I think only a psychiatric can resolve this problem who are stupids.
-Those who are unable to answer some preliminary questions or those
-Those about whome Allah said

4818
(481 Allah was well pleased with the believers when they were swearing allegiance to you under the tree. *32 He knew what was in their hearts; therefore, He sent down tranquility upon them *33 and rewarded them with a victory near at hand,

Only a Quranist can deny these facts and spread PEARLS as usual.
(NO SURPRISE)

unknownuser

rotfl

Samia

I think only a psychiatric can resolve this problem who are stupids.
-Those who are unable to answer some preliminary questions or those
-Those about whome Allah said

4818
(481 Allah was well pleased with the believers when they were swearing allegiance to you under the tree. *32 He knew what was in their hearts; therefore, He sent down tranquility upon them *33 and rewarded them with a victory near at hand,

Only a Quranist can deny these facts and spread PEARLS as usual.
(NO SURPRISE)

The verse says "under the tree", not "on the tree" jumping from a hearsay to another rotfl

Leoxyz

The verse says "under the tree", not "on the tree" jumping from a hearsay to another rotfl

No surprise !quite expected.(Default defect)
this deduction is as
"Haroot and Maroot may be women"
Or translating the quranic aya according to weather of the day.

Samia

"Haroot and Maroot may be women"
Or translating the quranic aya according to weather of the day.

...or from a thread to another... rotfl rotfl

zenje

Peace Leoxyz

I'm going to provide you with my take on the issues you've brought up.

Who was the person to whome "the Holy Quran " was revealed ?

One who recites and follows the reading before his audience but dares not meddle in its construction . ONe who is heard and not understood, looked at but not seen because he cannot make the deaf to hear nor point out to the blind . One who saw a great many things on the inspiration to be expounded .

The quran is not bound by the parameters of time like the parchment upon which truth is written. It has been with mankind from the beginning of our misfortune.

Joe

Well said. The quran is still being revealed, not just to one person over a thousand years ago. Something that many (especially Leoxyz and company) find hard to grasp.

peace

unknownuser

Only in 20th/21st century could see a few "intellectuals" who could understand these meanings.(Subhanallah)

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Andya_Primanda

OPF takes the penalty kick. He shoots. He score... the goal is no longer there! Someone had moved the goalposts!

As for "psuedointellectual", if only you knew...

warner

Salaam Leoxyz

We believe in Allah and none of us can give any evidence for Malaika or for the Day of Judgment. We believe in Allah, Malaika and the Day of Judgment solely based on the information in the Quran.

Do you believe in Allah because hadeeth describes Him? Will you not believe in Malaika and the Day of Judgment if the hadeeth did not give details?