Why do you believe in God?
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Peace,
Great topic, I was also thinking and verifying this again from zero a few weeks ago... for sincerity. We must be very sincere, remove the pre-conceptions, start again sincerely...
I planned to write a reply also, but I came to see that this video, essentially has it so much - the first "God" part of it.
http//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1760096128712631511&q=god&total=241020&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
Surely, we must verify this video as well.
See the haroon yahya videos also...Consider the post from JM which linked to http//www.jovialatheist.com/thewordgod.html about "THOM'S LAW"
IF THERE WERE EVER A TIME WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING,
THERE WOULD STILL BE NOTHING.
NOTHING CANNOT PRODUCE SOMETHING.... This clarified it so much, I now understand that "Nature" = "God" = "The one that always exists". (Yes, the first and the last...)
From this understanding, I see that the true "nature" should be the one that makes laws/designs on others, but no other made laws on this true "nature" - otherwise it would not be the first/"nature". It should be uncaused, and causes others - the "uncaused cause".
After sincere verification, the consciousness understanding/faith becomes so much improved, so much more clear and sincere.
If you do find that there is "God", ask this true "God" to guide to the truth (why I was created, what do you want me to do to please you and succeed? etc...) - since this is the only true natural "force" out there! We see the laws of this true "force" enforced all around us - gravity, the need of air to breathe, the need of water, etc... why can't I just fly out of the window? Why 1+1 = 2? Waves going through water, tree leaves moves, people need to eat, why should the positively charged particle attract the negative but repel other positively charged particles? etc... Why? Because, when you go analyze down to the lowest level - Notice the difference between "how" and "why", they are laws laws laws... enforced to happen. That's the true power that I see always happening.
After we verify about the existence of God, then we might go on and verify/test the Quran, hadith, Bibles, etc... (not because "he said" or "they said" or "it says"...)
May God Guide.
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Peace be upon the reader,
if you mention some scientific reason(s), expand on WHAT scientific reason(s).
Thank you,
God bless
Peace DArgento,
Why I believe in a God, a Great Force? I don't know why, but I feel that there is something more out there that we can't fully comprehend yet. Quantum physics is one of many theories that just seems to prove that there is something out "there" that encompasses everything. It encompasses every living creature, every little "thing" here on planet Earth and in space.
I've also seen some crazy things, like voodoo practices in Morocco, where people use knives to cut themselves in some kind of trance without leaving any skin marks, but they did bleed. Just things that makes you wonder how such things are possible. Ofcourse we as humans will try to find an answer by researching it and coming up with our own theories (referring to scientists). Because I'm a sceptic, I always take their theories with a grain of salt.
It's quite possible that Jesus could walk on water. It's also quite possible that the Almighty split the ocean in two for Moses and his followers to cross it. Maybe it just has been faded away because we create our own theories which seems to influence the majority of people (the energyfield that encompasses everything) and therefore it becomes reality.
Going off-topic! Sorry for that. To make a long story short I believe in a Great Force that we believers refer to as God/Jehovah/Allah/Jah/Jahweh, etc, simply because there has to be a Creator of all things. angel
peace
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The harmony of nature, perhaps. It shows intelligence. For instance, menopause for women who become too old to give birth.
Peace opf, all
where is the intelligence in letting old men be able to conceive kids and then leave them to grow up alone ?
but well, this doesn't keep me from believing in god. as to why, there is no way i can convey it. just something i feel, sometimes stronger , sometimes weaker. feel it best when alone in nature, or at dawn and dusk. Connection ?
lk
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Peace opf, all
where is the intelligence in letting old men be able to conceive kids and then leave them to grow up alone ?
but well, this doesn't keep me from believing in god. as to why, there is no way i can convey it. just something i feel, sometimes stronger , sometimes weaker. feel it best when alone in nature, or at dawn and dusk. Connection ?
lk
Without artificial aids?
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Peace to all
From a skeptics point, one could say because I was programmed to believe in God. Grew up in a Christian family, therefore thats why I believe in God. Then I could also say its because I had Muslim friends and used to hang around them all the time. Therefore the core belief of a God still stayed, if not stronger.
My own personal reasoning as far as I can tell is that I naturally believe in God. Like mentioned before, watching documentaries of life as it is, life, proves to me that there is God. Again, one can say, well humans create life already. Who knows in 100 to 200 years we can make lightning, terraform planets, etc. For me, the difference is that God creates things out of nothing. We create things out of things that we already have which was created by God. No matter how far our technology becomes, artificial life, mutants, giants, creating suns/blackholes, etc. we are still dependant on what God has given us. Without God, we would have nothing.
The main question for me is that if God exists (bad word but used it anyway, since I dont believe God "exists", what came before God? We cant grasp eternity or anything without a beginning, we are limited. Even if this were to work to disprove God, then the question would keep on coming up on who created God, and who created that god, etc. God is everything yet nothing at the same time to me. Confusing to most, but thats the best I can explain it. God is more then a being/force/etc. all these are created by God and serve Him/Her/It.
Peace
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About the problem of "so who created God?". I came to think about this issue some time ago but never had time to write it fully down somewhere, I'll try here. I am also a skeptic, otherwise I won't be sincere my understandings.
All things we see are forced to be under so many laws - gravity, energy, the positively charged particle attract the negative but repel other positively charged particles, atomic numbers, humans need water, matter needs space, things need "time" to happen, the birds need the laws of air and so many other laws to "fly" as we see. etc. Being forced under a law means under an enforcing power - the same law everywhere - "natural laws" - the same enforcer - "nature" - the same definition with "God".
Now, from Thom's Law
IF THERE WERE EVER A TIME WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING,
THERE WOULD STILL BE NOTHING.
NOTHING CANNOT PRODUCE SOMETHING.Now, there are many SOMETHING we see now, so there should've always been SOMETHING.
Now, it's the definition of "nature" to be the first something = the thing that is already and has always existed - this thing that is the cause of all "natural" laws (as in my previous post). If something created it, then it is not the true "nature" (because "nature" = the thing that is already there) - because there were laws set upon it by its creator. After I took time to think about that, I understand now that the true frist something/nature/force is the only thing that made laws for all other things but nothing made laws on it or created it. The uncaused cause of all. If it was causesd, it wasn't true "nature".
Therefore, "Nature" = "God" = "The one that always exists".
Therefore, Nature is not trees of animals because there are so many laws on them - growth/death/time/space/etc - Nature is the thing that is already there that initiated/enforced all others.
Therefore, "Nature" = "God" = "The one that always exists". That's why it's the only true power and source of law/purpose of all things after it - the universe.
Therefore, to me, the question "who created God?" is answered here. God = Nature = the thing that is already there, it can't be created otherwise it isn't God/Nature.
Therefore, for the question "who created God", I'd say the answer is the same to "who created Nature" - it's the same question.
May God Guide.
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I have asked myself this question before, and have never come to a single conclusion. God seems to be like The Greatest Philosopher, yet whos own existance is a paradox. God is the question and the awnser, the loophole in unbreakable laws. I look back at the philosophical laws of existance I've made, and God defies all of them. I dont have any reason to believe in God except in fear, fear of death and whats beyond it.
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hey Argento
the clearest answer i can think to give is actually a message i graffiti'ed on a wall a few weeks ago after fajr.
"God is most great surely our heart's longing for Him is a clear sign of His existence."
i know of many folks who have come to believe in God / Allah because of personal revelation or epiphany, and this is my case, as well.
http//bahiyya06.blogspot.com/2007/05/root-verse-interconnectedness.html
http//bahiyya06.blogspot.com/2007/09/tacto-del-ms-alto-los-signos.htmli believe that God exists because the human heart so clearly longs to understand something of Him. it seems that seeking after Al-Haqq is an intricate, ingrained part of most people's lives on some level, and i believe that must come from somewhere, a response to something outside of us. and i believe that God responds to those who seek Him with the blessing of intimacy and clear signs, as the Quran says.
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peace ayani, all,
i believe that God exists because the human heart so clearly longs to understand something of Him. it seems that seeking after Al-Haqq is an intricate, ingrained part of most people's lives on some level, and i believe that must come from somewhere, a response to something outside of us. and i believe that God responds to those who seek Him with the blessing of intimacy and clear signs, as the Quran says.
Nicely put. It is like the question "if I thirst, does this mean a thirst-quenching drink (e.g. water) exists?"
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8013.0Two of my favourite signs 4153 & 3030
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Why do I know God exist, because we exist. The awareness of one's own existence testifies to the existence of God.
Honestly once one has awareness, than they have evidence of God. Because awareness can never be accidental.
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And to elaborate, technically we are flooded with evidence of GOD existence and his attributes.
The real issue human beings have is linkage of that evidence with a message. For example, all human are aware of a GOD, but they may not believe that the Bible, Koran, Prophets, etc etc is from THAT SAME God, and therefore disbelieve in God altogether.
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And to elaborate, technically we are flooded with evidence of GOD existence and his attributes.
The real issue human beings have is linkage of that evidence with a message. For example, all human are aware of a GOD, but they may not believe that the Bible, Koran, Prophets, etc etc is from THAT SAME God, and therefore disbelieve in God altogether.
cool. i think i'd agree with that. it seems we all believe, on some level, in what they call in AA a "higher power". many, many people i've talked to believe in God, but refuse to label the Being they believe in as such.
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For anything to be created, there has to be a creator.
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I believe in God because HE proved Himself to me, when I went on my Quest to find Him...
There is a sura that declares that if you want God to prove Himself to you, cut all your support and ties to everything
and depend on Him Alone and then He will turn and prove Himself to you...This works, I am a witness, cause I did this...
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I believe in God because HE proved Himself to me, when I went on my Quest to find Him...
There is a sura that declares that if you want God to prove Himself to you, cut all your support and ties to everything
and depend on Him Alone and then He will turn and prove Himself to you...This works, I am a witness, cause I did this...
masha'allah, Daud. yay
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I refuse to believe that all living things in this world just happened, came into being, or evolved. For every creature there is a counterpart. Every creature has been perfectly designed to survive in this world. For me there is no way this could have just happened by itself.
peace,
dotty
