My Dream of Truth
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Through logic I know knargles exist, except I have no idea what knargles are. But they HAVE to exist. A book told me.
babythespy enjoyed the reference... but not just through logic do i know God exists, but through other signs in the universe. To me the Quran is a guide, it doesn't have all the answers. It asks itself to look for answers within the universe.
Well, you can't prove anything about something unless you know what that something is, can you?
But I don't think we have to prove anything to anyone. If we KNOW ourselves, that's all that matters.
But we have to know. We can't not know.I agree here, thats not my point or at least not my intended point..... my point is what we know ourselves is not necessarily in line with reality/truth. I am saying that since we all such vastly different views, how do we know who is right ? I am also not saying that there's anything wrong with our different views, in my opinion its what God intended, it'd be pretty damn boring if we were all the same and believed the exact thing. Also, it wouldn't promote free-thinking. I come across views that are different views from mine and I may not agree with them but I always consider them if they make sense. And they always have me thinking in a new light.
We may have to agree to disagree here peace
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peace,
hahaha, eheh.. sorry Babythespy.."spythebaby"..hehe
my question is,
how much do u know about Lobster that proves he exist?hehe no problem..i understood why you'd take it to mean that....
Very good question, I am impressed bravo and honestly.... we don't know...As babythespy said "He could just be a figment of our imagination"
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Dargento, we may have to...
but do you agree that we can't believe in something unless we know what it is? I mean, you have to have at least an idea of what god is, right?
Everyone has their own idea of god, but there has to be one true god. The quran (and all other spiritual/ religious books of the past), when it says "god," it is talking about one particular thing, and we need to understand what that thing is.and about whether I'm a figment or not...well, the thing is that Dargento only needs to prove what he needs to prove. My existence isn't of much importance in any way to anyone on this forum. I could actually be a knargle for all it matters.
If he needed to prove that I exist, though, I'm sure he can find a way to do that. I'm not hiding in a cave or anything.Babythespy, have you got your hands on deathly hallows yet? I'm through with 282 pages of it.
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Peace Lobster
Dargento, we may have to...
but do you agree that we can't believe in something unless we know what it is? I mean, you have to have at least an idea of what god is, right?
Everyone has their own idea of god, but there has to be one true god. The quran (and all other spiritual/ religious books of the past), when it says "god," it is talking about one particular thing, and we need to understand what that thing is.Yeah I agree. I have an idea of what God is or what he could be. But my approach is like 'anything is possible' (within reason of course) True... everyone has their own idea of God... It's an issue i have a very open mind on. While I am not sure what God is yet, its possible i may know in the future what he/it is. But it would only be my idea of God.
I have the attitude of "It is what it is" And I have a lot of trouble believing things i haven't seen or things that haven't been proven first hand. I like to be sure about everything rather than play guessing games.Babythespy is trying to avoid reading the last book for as long as possible seeing this is the last one...hehe i have read more than her! I am not a fan though (slowly becoming one), I just need to know how it ends! .....106 pages....
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Another problem with me getting around to reading Deathly Hallows is that every time I am ready to start, D'Argento is reading it. LOL.
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One more question... who/what is "God" to begin with?
Anwar AzimGod is God / He Is Who He Is
Cos He is uncomparable to anything, besides Himself.As a metaphor The mathematical symbol is "infinity" /
In Math domain Infinity does exist but you cannot tell how much is it or how less is it. -
Lobster,
you missed the point.The point is, the maker's existence does not depend on the computer's knowledge about him/her.
Even "insignificant" amount of knowledge about The Creator is appropriately enough for us to believe in God.
Well at least we can undertand His signs.
Say "Praise be to God. He will show you His Signs and you will recognise them. Your Lord is not heedless of anything you do." (27.9
30.20. Among His Signs in this, that He created you from dust; and then,- behold, ye are men scattered (far and wide)!
30.21. And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts) verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.
30.22. And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colours verily in that are Signs for those who know.
30.23. And among His Signs is the sleep that ye take by night and by day, and the quest that ye (make for livelihood) out of His Bounty verily in that are signs for those who hearken.
30.24. And among His Signs, He shows you the lightning, by way both of fear and of hope, and He sends down rain from the sky and with it gives life to the earth after it is dead verily in that are Signs for those who are wise.
30.25. And among His Signs is this, that heaven and earth stand by His Command then when He calls you, by a single call, from the earth, behold, ye (straightway) come forth.
So maybe we can know God from His signs. !
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Bigmo ~
that is beautifully said. i also agree that God shows us His signs, if we ask to be made aware of them and be rightly guided. i really think relationships with others, people coming into our lives, are some of the greatest signs. and i find the more i petition God in my own words for guidance and humility, the more signs i see.