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Who's talking here?

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    Peaceful_Mind
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    It's not awkward in Arabic. People swear by thier moustache, thier beard, thier might etc... There is an abundance of this in Arabic literature, so it's not strange at least in Arabic. God in the Quran swears by some things just once, so the question of oddity should not arise.

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      Arnold
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      Well, i think my shift manager example clearly pointed out the awkwardness. It is indeed awkward.

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        Peaceful_Mind
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        Well, i think my shift manager example clearly pointed out the awkwardness. It is indeed awkward.

        In English language? May be. In Arabic? Absolutely not. There are even Hadiths where God swear by Himself.

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          Arnold
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          In English language? May be. In Arabic? Absolutely not. There are even Hadiths where God swear by Himself.

          Does he swear by his title?

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            Peaceful_Mind
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            Does he swear by his title?

            I am sure He swears by His might.

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              Arnold
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              I am sure He swears by His might.

              Where does he swear in the third person? That's what swearing by one's title is. You're not even swearing by yourself, you're swearing by your title and referring to yourself as someone else (third person). It's like me saying Arnold doesn't think so instead of saying I don't think so. We don't think so is OK because it's the majestic plural and really means I don't think so. But me saying Arnold doesn't think so, is schizophrenic.

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                ILisa
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                Greetings 'arnold',

                Have we met before? You sound very familiar.

                'Who's talking here?' ??

                hmm

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                  Peaceful_Mind
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                  Where does he swear in the third person? That's what swearing by one's title is. You're not even swearing by yourself, you're swearing by your title and referring to yourself as someone else (third person). It's like me saying Arnold doesn't think so instead of saying I don't think so. We don't think so is OK because it's the majestic plural and really means I don't think so. But me saying Arnold doesn't think so, is schizophrenic.

                  May be according to you, but not according to Arabic language, and even some English people sometimes refer to themselves by third person. I heard many times on TV and movies.

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                    Arnold
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                    Greetings 'arnold',

                    Have we met before? You sound very familiar.

                    sun

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                      rotfl

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                        Arnold
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                        May be according to you, but not according to Arabic language, and even some English people sometimes refer to themselves by third person. I heard many times on TV and movies.

                        I'm the board troll. My name is Arnold. I swear? Or I swear by Arnold? Or, I swear by the board troll? The last one is equivalent to what is going on in the verse.

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                          Peaceful_Mind
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                          I'm the board troll. My name is Arnold. I swear? Or I swear by Arnold? Or, I swear by the board troll? The last one is equivalent to what is going on in the verse.

                          Any of them makes sense, especially in Arabic, and even in English. I hear it someimes on TV.

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                            Arnold
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                            Any of them makes sense, especially in Arabic, and even in English. I hear it someimes on TV.

                            So now, you're just going to repeat yourself and fall into stonewall mode. OK.

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                              Peaceful_Mind
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                              So now, you're just going to repeat yourself and fall into stonewall mode. OK.

                              It is you who are falling into stonewall.

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                                Arnold
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                                It is you who are falling into stonewall.

                                And repeat.

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                                  Peaceful_Mind
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                                  And repeat.

                                  You clearly lost it.

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                                    Arnold
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                                    You clearly lost it.

                                    And repeat. I'd say last I checked, the ball was in your court.

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                                      Peaceful_Mind
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                                      And repeat. I'd say last I checked, the ball was in your court.

                                      ?

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                                        Arnold
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                                        ?

                                        Meaning I was the last one to respond to the point of the thread.

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                                          Pass me the ball. )

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