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    Alen
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    Peace be upon you,
    with all due Respect.

    I always stop at this verse and ask myself, if we jave free will

    824 O you who believe, answer the call of God and His messenger when he calls you to what will grant you life. And know that God comes between a person and his heart, and that to Him you will be gathered.

    And even though I am aware and I realize that we do have a free will and an opportunity to choose and a chance to accept or reject, I still wonder what is the leson/meaning/wisdom in regards to the second sentence of the verse.

    Does anyone else have any comments/views regarding this verse, do you see something I don't?
    God comes between a person and his heart. I wonder what that means. God knows best.

    Glory be to God.
    Peace be upon you.

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      Emil
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      Hello Alen

      If my brother is murdered my heart tells me to seek revenge, but my god tells me to be forgiving.

      If you look at 824 from that perspective, it is a pretty good idea to have God between you and your heart, no?

      Also, if there is anyone who knows what is in my heart better than myself, it's God. So of course he comes between me and my heart.

      Anyways, that is my view.

      This is my path to God Alone

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        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/temp%2002%20%202.104a.gif
        O you who declare to have accepted!
        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/8.24a.gif
        You people make yourselves consciously answer/respond to Allah and answer/respond affirmatively to the Messenger when he calls you people towards that/Grand Qur'aan which will give you people life
        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/8.24.gif
        And you people may get informed/know/understand that Allah is the One who transmits/and (or) creates a barrier in between the brain and one's heart. from its storage place to the chest could we say a word despite there being nothing wrong with the entire system of speech? In simple words we can say that someone has become a barrier between the brain and the chest resulting in hindrance to the flow of data]

        Surat Al Anfaal-8

        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/002.%20Meanings%20and%20Tabweeb%20of%20words/003.%20Arzal%20il%20Umre%20Alzheimer's%20disease/000.01%20Arzal%20Umar.gif Perception and meanings. Quran had disclosed what today we call Alzheimer's disease

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          Alen
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          Peace be upon you,
          with all due Respect.

          I've been thinking lately more then before about this.
          Is it possible that a person changes due to his change of friends and even location?
          Because during my time in Ljubljana, Slovenia, I've been more depressed and kept thinking only how to get into USA.
          During these past three years of my living in UK, Thank God, I feel that Uk is better then USA. So when I read God comes between a person and his heart, I think that I changed because I changed locations.

          God knows best.
          Peace be upon you. sun

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            san
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            Peace,

            I'm still pondering on whether it talks about the relationship between the source of emotions (i.e. the "feeling" self) and the source of thoughts (i.e. the "thinking" mind); or about the relationship between two most vital points of the human life (heart and brain); or else, since seems to mean more of "man as a whole" (mature man) than anything constituting its part (mind/brain/intelligences).

            If anything, this signifies the connection between Allah and us. In what way, i have nothing but vague glimpses. Could be "inspiration", "light", "guidance", ... (notice i'm using positive notions since the verse is in contrast with the preceding verses, 821-23).

            Qalb, , ("to turn, to return, to change upside down, change, change direction" etc) does seem to me to give the impression of some kind of consciousness capable of making a decision --especially on which "direction" to take--rather than a physical heart. And the direction? Ultimately "... And that to Him you will be gathered."

            So, the notion that "Allah comes between a person and his (deciding) heart" is rather enlightening to me (obviously in a positive way), given how we, as humans, often make less-than-best decisions in our daily life. Especially for such an important decision as "responding/answering" to the "call to that which gives you life" (possibly in the presence of danger/difficulties as well) -- unless you're a proven saint or what. This verse is an embracing, strengthening wisdom, at least to me it is.

            Peace

            P.S. eh, Shawnee Smith, Alen?

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              Peace,

              I'm still pondering on whether it talks about the relationship between the source of emotions (i.e. the "feeling" self) and the source of thoughts (i.e. the "thinking" mind); or about the relationship between two most vital points of the human life (heart and brain); or else, since seems to mean more of "man as a whole" (mature man) than anything constituting its part (mind/brain/intelligences).

              If anything, this signifies the connection between Allah and us. In what way, i have nothing but vague glimpses. Could be "inspiration", "light", "guidance", ... (notice i'm using positive notions since the verse is in contrast with the preceding verses, 821-23).

              Qalb, , ("to turn, to return, to change upside down, change, change direction" etc) does seem to me to give the impression of some kind of consciousness capable of making a decision --especially on which "direction" to take--rather than a physical heart. And the direction? Ultimately "... And that to Him you will be gathered."

              So, the notion that "Allah comes between a person and his (deciding) heart" is rather enlightening to me (obviously in a positive way), given how we, as humans, often make less-than-best decisions in our daily life. Especially for such an important decision as "responding/answering" to the "call to that which gives you life" (possibly in the presence of danger/difficulties as well) -- unless you're a proven saint or what. This verse is an embracing, strengthening wisdom, at least to me it is.

              Peace

              P.S. eh, Shawnee Smith, Alen?

              Peace be upon you,
              with all due Respect.

              Well, sometimes I'm torn between the two decisions and even though my present thoughts tell me to take this path somehow - Thank God - soemthing stronger, wiser, better, determined, tells me to take the path that, even though seems far and really distant, is the best. Glory be to God, Thank God for guiding me.

              P.S., Shawnee's awesome! Have you seen Saw? bravo bravo Okay, you have but have you seen Becker? bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

              Keep up the prayers and read The Qur'an.
              Peace be upon you.

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                san
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                P.S., Shawnee's awesome! Have you seen Saw? bravo bravo Okay, you have but have you seen Becker? bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                No, before i finished posting my reply i've never seen her before.
                i mean what does "Shawnee Smith" have anything to do with the verse elektro

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                  Alen
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                  No, before i finished posting my reply i've never seen her before.
                  i mean what does "Shawnee Smith" have anything to do with the verse elektro

                  Peace be upon you,
                  with all due Respect.

                  Oh, nothing, she's just amazing actress, I just put her name to bring something new to the forum.
                  I succeeded, Thank God. yay

                  Peace be upon you.

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                    When I ponder over the quran, shawnee smith is the first thing that comes to my mind. Followed by jigsaw I.e. the puzzle waiting to be unraveled... )
                    Saw off falsehood with the truth as your weapon.

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                      Alen
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                      When I ponder over the quran, shawnee smith is the first thing that comes to my mind. Followed by jigsaw I.e. the puzzle waiting to be unraveled... &nbsp
                      Saw off falsehood with the truth as your weapon.

                      Peace be upon you,
                      with all due Respect.

                      Beautiful.
                      When we saw off this world/life off of us, God willing soon, we will enter The Reality.
                      Therefore, we must keep our patience, pray and read The Qur'an. hail

                      Peace be upon you.

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                        hypno OK... hypno

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