the great global warming swindle
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http//gristmill.grist.org/skeptics
I may have posted this before, but there you go. There is no grand, global central heating conspiracy for British Gas to jack up our bills, it's rather real.
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Peace OPF
http//gristmill.grist.org/skeptics
I may have posted this before, but there you go. There is no grand, global central heating conspiracy for British Gas to jack up our bills, it's rather real.
Some people just like to live in conspiracies and think they know it all. Its cool if they want to believe it, but then people they think they have PHDs in the subject.
Peace
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I now know where Wagga Wagga is. Thanks OPF. I wonder if it's cold there today.
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DArgento do you support David Mayer de Rothschild environmental movement?
Don't know who he is, by simple logic and by looking out into the world, there's not and there possibly cannot be a 'global warming conspiracy'. Also knowing that every climatologist against global warming is paid off some way or another is a huge dent in such a conspiracy. Exxon has too much too lose ( 40 billion in profit yearly! ) Humans are putting tons and tons of toxicity in the air, on the ground, in the oceans etc... it's causing the human race to be more diseased than ever. That's one of the reasons anyway. That's why even if you get organic fruits, vegetables they don't have near the value they did 50 years ago. It's the natural law of the universe What goes around comes around.
I wish you and Amuslim didn't into a fight like that We need to show good (Islamic) behavior and show a good example and agree to disagree rather than than do that. If I make mistakes (which I often do) I expect any and all to point it out. In fact, I am pretty paranoid about that.
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Peace Dargento,
I wish you and Amuslim didn't into a fight like that We need to show good (Islamic) behavior and show a good example and agree to disagree rather than than do that. If I make mistakes (which I often do) I expect any and all to point it out. In fact, I am pretty paranoid about that.
I dont either but I provided my proof on the issue at hand (regarding Angel), its not baseless acusations. Ive also noticed his/her conduct calling a women by a dirty names, etc. which isnt Islamic, which is why I asked off topic if he or she is a Muslim because if not then theres no point for me to even bring up Islam. However, he/she didnt want to answer the question, so I just left it at that. The Quran is full of examples and states that we should debate in the best manner. Its no worries though, that person is on my ignore list. Best to keep negative things blocked for me, does no good.
Peace
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i'm sorry but 'man made global warming' is a theory not a conspiracy.
i think we shall agree to disagree.
http//www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=485336&in_page_id=1811
I wish all parents were this concerned. D
amuslim i did not call any woman 'dirty names', if i did perhaps you can quote me so i can apologise.
btw D amuslim indirectly insulted me first, this type of mentality is common in the man made global warming cult. Yet he has the nearve to say that my attitude is unislamic.
amuslim why did you bother posting in this thread if all you have done is insult me? D and OPF do not agree with me but they did not insult me, NOT ONCE. And atleast D and OPF provided links to back their point of view, the only thing you have done is attack me, who is being unislamic now?
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Some people just like to live in conspiracies and think they know it all. Its cool if they want to believe it, but then people they think they have PHDs in the subject.
duh the writing in blue was a quote from a guy with a phd brickwall
stop being a conspiracy nut and claiming that i take no notice of people with phds, and people with phds often do have disagreements.
Ive also noticed his/her conduct calling a women by a dirty names, etc.
I've checked my profile, and I certainly did not call any woman "dirty names"
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who is this woman?
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Are you sure it was me that actually said it?
unless this woman is "RasulHamsa" then you have made this up, spreading malicious rumours about people is unislamic.
MODS can you tell 'amuslim' off for making stuff up about me? (
EDIT where is RasulHamsa btw, i kinda miss him.
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Peace,
If it's true that the film is exaggerrated and this article is not just a counterpunch, then I find it sad and counter-productive. Reminds me of Michael Moore's exaggerrations in Farhenheit 911. The truth is enough of an indictment. Exaggerrating it only lessens credibility...
The judge said that, although there was general scientific agreement that there was a connection, "the two graphs do not establish what Mr Gore asserts".
Peace,
Tay -
I am sure human made climate change is a swindle. I could say and bank on the fact that I have a degree in a related science, but I don't say it nor bank on it, because I did that many years ago and I am doing a different work since then and also because I am not an unconditional believer in titles. Dishonest or saleable people also have titles. Still what I do have from my own make up and science studies is a keen interest in TRUTH, whichever way it falls and in getting to the core of things. Of course, Angel is right that there are plenty of first rate scientists that refute man made climate change. I am not going to prove anything here because I haven't been keeping a file, because everything I looked into and found I did for myself and not to try and convince somebody else, and in fact I would not have posted on this thread if Angel had had somebody else "on her or his side". There is a lot of "religion" in climate change, a lot of "believing", and documentally I am SURE it is illegitimate and we are being taking for a loooooooooooooong ride. You may not see it now, but you will see it in due course, if things go as they are planned and, that is, if you keep your critical spirit wakened.
As for comfort, I tell what it is comfort is to believe what you are told to believe, and the to give in into the one who pushes stronger or gives you a vent for your own passions or emotions that you don't have the vision, or the strength or the guts, or the capacity in short, to deal with otherwise, even if you are not conscious that you do that. And the fact is that we all do it, or have done it or both, because we are weak, we are imperfect and we need crutches and we have faith, but not absolute faith, because we are not absolute, and we are not superhuman mentally either, so we have a lot against us.
Concerning climate change and the Convention and the Kyoto protocol, I suppose that you are knowledgeable about emissions trade. What do you think of them? The question comes because that could open the way to look into if really there are no interests behind the climate change swindle. I know there are. There are big ones. There has to be to have been able to push this new version of "the earth is flat" and "sorcery is science" and push up our inner. But since it seems that a red light is flashing here and that one might get stamped "conspiracy nut" if one goes into it, I will keep mum and and also keep my reputation as well (about which, by the way, I don't give a damn damn).
I am not giving links or anything for the reasons I said, and I am sure whoever wants fo really find will find. However, I recommend, because it is quite good reading and a good author and an honest one" Michael Crichton "State of fear". It deals specifically with this question and is very readable. Also I would recommend his last book "Next" which deals with genetics, but gives a very accurate vision of what the academic world is nowadays. They are novels with ascientific argument and complete notes and bibliography on everything he touches.
That climate change is a swindle doesn't mean that I like breathing fumes and eating dirt or that I don't want the planet to be beautiful and pleasant and a home for as many cretures as posible. But I would rather have that without playing into dirty hands. I have found the branding of the climate change disbelievers in this thread as earth haters (with whatever words) quite unwarranted.
Salaam
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Peace,
If it's true that the film is exaggerrated and this article is not just a counterpunch, then I find it sad and counter-productive. Reminds me of Michael Moore's exaggerrations in Farhenheit 911. The truth is enough of an indictment. Exaggerrating it only lessens credibility...
Peace,
Tayhi tay, how are ya doin? )
the film is exaggerated, if you read the previous article it says that 'Schools must warn of Gore climate film bias', both articles are from the British newspaper the 'telegraph', and i am not being arrogant when i say that the American media is far more unreliable then the British media.
It's people like al gore and the Rothschilds that make me suspicious about man made global warming, when you look into their backgrounds its hard to believe anything these people say. On top of the fact that many scientists (especially meteorologists) say that we don't affect climate change. Al gore is a corprate puppet, and he was campaigning for GM food (congressmen Dennis Kucinich said not a shred of evidence exists to prove that GM food is safe) but since Americans are the guinea pigs it would be interesting to see what happens.
As with any scientific theory and political view people are entitled to their own opinion, the last thing I expect from adults is childish name calling.
peace.