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The soul of sovereign thought.

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    Abdun_Nur
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    Salaam,

    sovereignty is with Allah alone, this is a concept rejected by almost every Muslim, they confer sovereignty onto a great array of individuals and institutions, yet call themselves Muslim, I have considered sovereignty at length,and concluded it is a condition of the mind, people are trained from birth to conform to the sovereign way of thinking, they seek out experts to make the sovereign choice for them, they vote for the scum of the earth to rob them blind within the crime of sovereign states, they adore and worship monarchs, the list goes on and on.

    The foundation of this sovereign thought can be traced back to the formation of the Roman Catholic Church, possibly this thought pattern predates this corporation, but the modern propagation of this sovereign thought pattern is through their efforts.

    Sovereign thought exchanges all that could be forever, for all that can be now.

    Every soul betrays their own mind at the end, every soul will explain themselves

    ?I gathered and hoarded wealth, with such joy and pleasure.?

    ?I was unkind to my neighbours, with anger and spite, and took satisfaction from their hardships.?

    ?I did not weigh with full measure, then defended it with sophistry, feeling justified and righteous.?

    ?I bore false witness, to protect and increase my selfish interests, without the slightest regret.?

    ?I slandered others behind there backs to demean them and make myself feel superior.?

    ?I plotted and schemed to steal the fruits of others efforts, with pride and arrogance.?

    ?I paid the unfortunate for acts of perversion, bleeding their souls to satisfy my lusts.?

    ?I was promiscuous using others like toilets, revelling in my accumulation boastfully.?

    ?I bullied with intimidation and fear, betraying trust and abusing power.?

    ?I suggested altruism only as display, to imply selflessness to impress, while always serving myself.?

    But cries the soul

    ?They, are the ones, who have led me astray!?

    ?I followed every legality they provided, the majority acted just as I.?

    ?I followed every tradition of my culture, and defending it, the majority acted just as I.?

    ?I followed every scholar that conformed to my idols, the majority acted just as I.?

    ?I followed every ritual that was ingrained in religious superstition, the majority acted just as I.?

    ?I followed every dogma that was written for those of blind faith, the majority acted just as I.?

    ?I followed religiously recited words I never understood, of concepts I never considered, to appease a God. The majority acted just as I.?

    ?I worshipped in adoration, men and places, books and buildings, the majority acted just as I.?

    ?They, are the ones, who have led me astray!?

    ?I have blind faith, they told me that's enough??

    ?I idolised the illusion of a man who would provide intercession on my behalf, they told me that's enough.?

    ?I worship a God, I adhere to its religion, they told me that's enough.?

    ?I paid my taxes, tithes, zakat, loan interest, I paid all I must onto my sovereigns, they told me that's enough.?

    ?They, are the ones, who have led me astray!?

    ?I subjugated those around me to conform to sovereignty, just as I conformed, to feel justified?

    ?I showed contempt for thoughts presented that conflicted with my subjugation, so ridiculed and attacked those suggesting them.?

    ?I built my world founded on self deception and ignorance, and inflicted that upon all who suffered me.?

    In the fire of regret the soul concludes

    ?I am the one who led them astray!?

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      Mushu
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      Salaam,

      sovereignty is with Allah alone, this is a concept rejected by almost every Muslim, they confer sovereignty onto a great array of individuals and institutions, yet call themselves Muslim

      Salam,

      Abdun Nur, are you still on this?

      The last thread you posted about sovereignty you refused to acknowledge the verse in AQ about ulul-amr. Allah explicitly commands the Muslims to obey those in authority amongst us, yet you make takfir on those Muslims who wish to obey their Lord.

      Do you mind giving me your interpretation of that verse?

      Thanks

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        Abdun_Nur
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        Salaam Mushu,

        such confidence in the sovereign model we suffer today, while the world is headed into a even more turbulent time than the horrors of the past, but follow your sovereigns, you seem annoyed I do not?

        The verse you sight would be a contradiction if the interpretation you follow was correct, as Allah is the only sovereign to give others sovereignty would demonstrate a deep and profound contradiction, the question you should ask yourself is which is more likely to be correct, Allah is the only sovereign or follow those placed in authority over as sovereigns?

        Another question you should ask yourself, are you the soul who is so invested in sovereign thought you inflict your subjugation on those around you?

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          Mushu
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          Salaam Mushu,

          such confidence in the sovereign model we suffer today, while the world is headed into a even more turbulent time than the horrors of the past, but follow your sovereigns, you seem annoyed I do not?

          The verse you sight would be a contradiction if the interpretation you follow was correct, as Allah is the only sovereign to give others sovereignty would demonstrate a deep and profound contradiction, the question you should ask yourself is which is more likely to be correct, Allah is the only sovereign or follow those placed in authority over as sovereigns?

          Another question you should ask yourself, are you the soul who is so invested in sovereign thought you inflict your subjugation on those around you?

          Salam Abdun Nur,

          O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end.

          (459)

          Please could you give me your understanding of the above verse.

          Thanks

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            Abdun_Nur
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            Salaam,

            this is the translation of the surah 459 as requested.

            Wake you lethargic in unwise actions. Those who had pleasure of being safe and secure in the past. Were they submissive to one whom is not a deity for adoration and worship?
            Or were they submissive to the easy life?
            Or else were they with what is decreed and prescript?
            Among you there upon, is what may be known and that whereof a thing may be predicated. You desire and yearn towards it. Consequently, it will lead you to revert back towards, One who is not the deity for adoration and worship and the real easy in this life. In order that you could be with one who is not a deity for adoration and worship Guarded and safe, instead of being left behind and backwards in the era. This is for you the most pleasing quality and real good and an ideal. An expression that is plain and without any dubiousness, that you have to return. (Surah 459)

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              Salaam,

              this is the translation of the surah 459 as requested.

              Wake you lethargic in unwise actions. Those who had pleasure of being safe and secure in the past. Were they submissive to one whom is not a deity for adoration and worship?
              Or were they submissive to the easy life?
              Or else were they with what is decreed and prescript?
              Among you there upon, is what may be known and that whereof a thing may be predicated. You desire and yearn towards it. Consequently, it will lead you to revert back towards, One who is not the deity for adoration and worship and the real easy in this life. In order that you could be with one who is not a deity for adoration and worship Guarded and safe, instead of being left behind and backwards in the era. This is for you the most pleasing quality and real good and an ideal. An expression that is plain and without any dubiousness, that you have to return. (Surah 459)

              Sorry for the late reply, must have missed it. Had problems following the above translation and couldn't figure out which bits refer to which words in Arabic. So, could you translate the following for me

              The above term is from 459. Thanks.

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