way to perform salat

unknownuser

Simple answer No.

By the way, I think Bukhari and Co beat you to this question 1200 years ago.

Twilight

What's the long/more complicated answer?

unknownuser

What's the long/more complicated answer?

No...

nerspi

peace

but there is no particular way described in the quran about how to perform it.
just what to do, glorify, praise, bowing, prostrating

so is there only ONE way to do salat?
the way (they claim) that muhammad performed it?

unknownuser

peace

but there is no particular way described in the quran about how to perform it.
just what to do, glorify, praise, bowing, prostrating

so is there only ONE way to do salat?
the way (they claim) that muhammad performed it?

When you attempt to fit a square peg into a circular hole, you will find there is not enough material to do so.

progod

Peace,

The Quran mentions how Mary and others bowed or kneeled when they prayed. That is all you need to do. Pray to God sincerely recite what you want to but just pray to him. We don't know how the last prophet prayed. The hadeeths don't tell us this and no one who was there can tell us. In the end we don't need to know exactly how he prayed (seeing that we can't know this anyway), all we need to know is that we must pray as the Quran tells us and that this is how our last prophet prayed as he fulfilled the Quran. You can pray like a traditional Muslim or even as a Christian or a Jew or a hindu, who cares. Just bow or kneel in your prayer and pray to God the Most High in the best way.

Godbless,
Anwar

ImamQuranonly

As salaamu Alaikum all,

peace

so since there is no step by step instructions or little details in the quran regarding how to perform salat,
would that mean that it's ok to just invent our own way to do it?

It still amazes me that even those who follow Al Quran only seem to keep quoting and repeating those who say that Al Quran doesn't give any details about how to perform As Salaat. Many people, before me and after, and including myself have shown the details of where and how Al Quran tells us how to perform As Salaat. (still, the how to isn't more important than the purpose and what is supposed to be gained mentally and spiritually.)

Many seem to be unable to comprehend these instructions since they are not written in basic language that says

First do A, then do B, then do C, etc. etc.

The details are spread all over Al Quran with everything that is necessary to perform As Salaat according to the way prescribed by Allah. Anything that is not given in Al Quran about performing As Salaat is therefore not necessary. You can find many of these details here

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14094.0

and other places, articles and posts written in this forum and in other places on the internet as well. Many people can't understand guidance and instructions from Al Quran because they only want to see things in black and white and fail to accept understandings derived from connective study of words, phrases and subject matter of Al Quran.

As Salaamu Alaikum, peace

the_seeker

Salam all...

So how do you pray in light of all of these? The same traditional way (invoking the names of Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Abraham) or in what way?

Thanks.

ImamQuranonly

As salaamu Alaika seeker,

Salam all...

So how do you pray in light of all of these? The same traditional way (invoking the names of Prophet Muhammad and Prophet Abraham) or in what way?

Thanks.

I am assuming that this post is to me since I was the last one to post and you didn't mention anyone's name specifically. So to answer you, I don't mention the name of Muhammad or Ibraheem in performing As Salaat because that would violate a command from Allah. If you click on the link I provided, in that thread you will see basically how I perform As Salaat; although I have made few minor changes since then.

As Salaamu Alaikum, peace

the_seeker

Salam.

Thanks ImamQuranonly. My problem is I cannot open/download the files.

And the question is actually for everybody in this forum. In particular I'd like to know if you

Read verses in the first two rakaas.
Pray aloud in the first two rakaas for fajr, maghrib and isha and silently for the remaining rakaas (if applicable).
Pray silently all through out for dhuhr and asr.
How do you close the contact prayer/salat (before the salams, of course); what are the words.

Also as an addition, I would like to know how Quran Only brothers and sisters in the Middle East pray? Do you still go to the masjids and be with the majority in prayer? Aren't their situation precarious so to speak because they not only pray differently, but believe differently.

Thanks!

ImamQuranonly

As Salaamu Alaika seeker,

Salam.

Thanks ImamQuranonly. My problem is I cannot open/download the files.

And the question is actually for everybody in this forum. In particular I'd like to know if you

Read verses in the first two rakaas.
Pray aloud in the first two rakaas for fajr, maghrib and isha and silently for the remaining rakaas (if applicable).
Pray silently all through out for dhuhr and asr.
How do you close the contact prayer/salat (before the salams, of course); what are the words.

Also as an addition, I would like to know how Quran Only brothers and sisters in the Middle East pray? Do you still go to the masjids and be with the majority in prayer? Aren't their situation precarious so to speak because they not only pray differently, but believe differently.

Thanks!

Youre welcome and if you go down in that thread, you will see that I latter posted all of the information in the actual thread so that there is no need to download it, you can read it right in the thread if you just keep going through it.

Also, just for information purposes, I attend a "sunni" masjid for Friday congregational prayer which they call "salatul jumuah", even though I dont necessarily agree with everything there and consider a lot of it shirk. I do only attend one of the many masjids that I used to attend though because I have a lot of friends and am respected enough at that masjid that they don't bother me when I don't pray salaat with them. I pray after they pray and pray alone so that I don't associate anything or anyone with Allah. I dont think I could accomplish this at other masajid because many people there would not know me and could cause problems because of HOW I pray. At the masjid I attend, it is my own little dawah that I do to let them see me praying differently so that if they want to know why, they can ask. I don't openly propogate because I respect the Imam there and don't want to try to overide his authority there and what he is teaching. It is their place, not mine. In the future, Allah willing, I intend to open a propogation center to teach Al Islam from the understanding that I have, in which case I will be free to speak out as necessary.

As Salaamu Alaikum, peace

the_seeker

Salam and thanks again...

Ashraf

Peace IQO,

I guess, there is a justification to have 2x prostration per standing (after verse recitation), if deduced from the following verses

Say ?Believe in it or do not believe in it. Those who have been given the knowledge before it, when it is recited
to them, they fall to their chins prostrating.? (Prostration 1)
And they say ?Praise be to our Lord. Truly, the promise of our Lord was fulfilled.?
And they fall upon their chins crying, and it increases them in humility. (Prostration 2)

Salam

Samia

Peace IQO,

I guess, there is a justification to have 2x prostration per standing (after verse recitation), if deduced from the following verses

Say ?Believe in it or do not believe in it. Those who have been given the knowledge before it, when it is recited
to them, they fall to their chins prostrating.? (Prostration 1)
And they say ?Praise be to our Lord. Truly, the promise of our Lord was fulfilled.?
And they fall upon their chins crying, and it increases them in humility. (Prostration 2)

Salam

And don't forget the "crying" part...

Ashraf

Thank you Samia for reminding...I'm still thinking about it. I sometime used to cry while in prostration or standing when thinking about my past actions/misdeed and responsibility moving forward. I ask forgiveness from Allah for unable to cry or tremble when listening to His verse.

unknownuser

Salam Ashraf/#11, were you a Christian convert? And was it "islam at first sight"? ;D

Jack

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2964;sa=showPosts

ImamQuranonly

As Salaamu Alaika Ashraf,

Peace IQO,

I guess, there is a justification to have 2x prostration per standing (after verse recitation), if deduced from the following verses

Say ?Believe in it or do not believe in it. Those who have been given the knowledge before it, when it is recited
to them, they fall to their chins prostrating.? (Prostration 1)
And they say ?Praise be to our Lord. Truly, the promise of our Lord was fulfilled.?
And they fall upon their chins crying, and it increases them in humility. (Prostration 2)

Salam

Interesting point you have put forward here, but at this time I don't see it that way. I see 17109 as a further description of 17107. But I can see how you came to your conclusions.

As Salaamu Alaikum, peace

nerspi

peace

there already is a topic 'how do you pray', so i started this one to see if anyone thinks or does salat any other way then traditional way (bowing, prostrating...).

how did moses or abraham or solomon or david or other messenger do their salat?
since it says we can do it while walking or riding (if traveling or in other situations...) so this physical part doesn't seem to be of that great importance. so how would one do it while walking?, just say things in your mind to God?

also, what is the difference between salat in 1778 and 20130 where it says 'and glorify the grace of your Lord'?
people who do traditional salat are glorifying the God, so does one always have to do salat by glorifying God or can we do it differently?

unknownuser

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2964;sa=showPosts

Actually it was a reply to the quote

Say ?Believe in it or do not believe in it. Those who have been given the knowledge before it, when it is recited
to them, they fall to their chins prostrating.? (Prostration 1)