circulate or visit?
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peace
why do many translations say that in 2125, 2196, 2226 there's a word 'visit' there?
there is no such word. i asked many people who speak arabic and they all agree it means to 'circulate' or 'go around'.
for example, there is a word 'visit' mentioned in 1022 and no such word can be found in 2125, 2196 and 2226why are there translations saying different?
can anyone explain?
any thoughts?
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peace nerspi,
It would be more helpful if you clarified in your studies what Arabic word you are referring to. If you do not know, you could ask those that you did to clarify what the actual Arabic word is so you can conduct your own study. This will be a much more effective approach.
To help, I think the roots you are referring to are
Tay-Waw-Fa - e.g. "tawaf"
Ayn-Miim-Ra - e.g. "umrah"You can study their Classical Arabic meanings, all occurrences with grammar information in Project Root List http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm
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peace
well they say in 1022 2. Hatta zurtumu almaqabira, the word 'zurtumu' means 'visit' and they say that that word is not used anywhere in
2125 Wa-ith jaAAalna albayta mathabatan lilnnasi waamnan waittakhithoo min maqami ibraheema musallan waAAahidna ila ibraheema wa-ismaAAeela an tahhira baytiya liltta-ifeena waalAAakifeena waalrrukkaAAi alssujoodi
2196 Waatimmoo alhajja waalAAumrata lillahi fa-in ohsirtum fama istaysara mina alhadyi wala tahliqoo ruoosakum hatta yablugha alhadyu mahillahu faman kana minkum mareedan aw bihi athan min ra/sihi fafidyatun min siyamin aw sadaqatin aw nusukin fa-itha amintum faman tamattaAAa bialAAumrati ila alhajji fama istaysara mina alhadyi faman lam yajid fasiyamu thalathati ayyamin fee alhajji wasabAAatin itha rajaAAtum tilka AAasharatun kamilatun thalika liman lam yakun ahluhu hadiree almasjidi alharami waittaqoo Allaha waiAAlamoo anna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi
2226 Wa-ith bawwa/na li-ibraheema makana albayti an la tushrik bee shay-an watahhir baytiya liltta-ifeena waalqa-imeena waalrrukkaAAi alssujoodi
but they do say 'liltta-ifeena' implies to circulate
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peace,
What I was trying to highlight was that once you identify the word, it allows one to cross-reference its usage, and therefore check the validity of a claim. Did you check its usage or not? By doing this, you may realise, to say it exclusively means "circulate" is problematic. It clearly means "to go about/among" (not necessarily in a circuiting manner).
Also, by citing "zurtumu" in 1022, are they implying it is only one Arabic word per meaning, i.e. no other word can mean "visit"? If so, can they cite evidence for such a claim?
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peace
there's this
http//nadeem.reflekterselv.com/rootsearch.php?words=2125&start=14ok, i see there are other meanings, 'visit' is also a possibility, my bad, sorry.
and this
http//nadeem.reflekterselv.com/rootsearch.php?words=1022&start=1ok i guess there could be more then just 1 word that means 'visit',
perhaps the word used in 2125 fits better then one in 1022 -
There is a view among some that only one meaning per Arabic word, in al quran. I used to think this was a possibility, but not after working on Project Root List and reviewing hundreds of roots. For example, it seems there are many Arabic words in al quran which can mean "perish"/etc.
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Peace,
I'm not at all talking about a correct arabic root word or something but what came into my mind was that it might well could be the meaning of circulate.
A lot of things in Universe does circulate, the planets, sun , moon, our blood in our veins and all energies we send out. What goes around comes around so to speak.
And with my own understanding of Makka, Kaaba, Qibla, hajj etc this could fit well into the picture.
Your thoughts and prayers does circulate.
Maria
