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The Islamic Origins Debate Goes Public

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    Wilson
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    Peace,

    http//www.blackwellpublishing.com/pdf/compass/hico_058.pdf

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      I have been looking to get the book Seeing Islam as Others Saw It A Survey and Evaluation of Christian, Jewish and Zoroastrian Writings on Early Islam (Studies in Late Antiquity and Early ... (Studies in Late Antiquity and Early Islam) also!

      It is interesting, to me, that some readings of history (not religiously ordained history) would seem to support the theory that 'Islam' moved away from the Quran in the Ummayd era and into the hands of the religious 'scholars' who used the miraculously discovered 'sira' to obtain power. Furthermore some of these revisionist histories also claim the Quran originated from religious texts circulating around at time of Muhammad which is sort of an inside out version of what the Quran says.

      Roshan

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        re Seeing Islam as Others Saw It

        I decided to buy the book just now, from the US at almost half the UK price

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          nadeem
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          Which online store? Amazon?

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            http//www.christianorigins.com/islamrefs.html

            http//www.christianorigins.com/islamrefs.html

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              re Seeing Islam as Others Saw It

              I decided to buy the book just now, from the US at almost half the UK price

              Yes. I also bought it from amazon.ca (Canada) at half the price in the UK or less (then)

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                Wakas
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                I got it from Amazon.com

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  And what were your opinions of the book?

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                    Wakas
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                    I only ordered it yesterday. By the time I read it, it will likely be a few months.

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      I think "Islam as Others Saw It" is a must read... couple that with "Arabia and the Arabs" by the same author, "Hagarism" and "God's Caliph" by Crone/Cook, and then the papers and material on Islamic-Awareness.Org and Nabataea.Net, as well as Muhammad Asad, Shabbir Ahmad, and Ahmad Ali's translations along with Lane's Lexicon to use with the Quran, and IMO you're all set to scope out the Truth about Islam's historicity.

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