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Which place should we like to visit - instead of Mecca?

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    unknownuser
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    Salaams All,

    So what type of city or place would make us more of all that is good.

    God Bless.

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      peace4life
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      Sobhan Allah!

      looks like most people here have some logic and sense. sun

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        Raj-ah
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        Definitely Makkah

        One should see with his/her own eyes, the prophecies of Abraham and muhammad come true.

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          unknownuser
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          Definitely Makkah

          One should see with his/her own eyes, the prophecies of Abraham and muhammad come true.

          And what on earth, was that?

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            peace4life
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            And what on earth, was that?

            exactly? where does the Quran link Abraham with Makka? If Abraham was in Makka then it would be the holiest place for the Jews to worship and do pilgimage! do you think they're stupid?

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              Raj-ah
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              exactly? where does the Quran link Abraham with Makka? If Abraham was in Makka then it would be the holiest place for the Jews to worship and do pilgimage! do you think they're stupid?

              may be! Quran compares some of their scholars with donkeys loaded with books.

              And what on earth, was that?

              You have to re-visit different threads on this forum for that, one of them being "Who built the Kaaba that is in Mecca"
              and read some of my posts, before you can make a comment as you made above.

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                unknownuser
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                So Br where did the Kaaba come from then?

                Here it is.

                http//www.free-minds.org/articles/history/ayman1.htm

                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11694.0

                Wit regret but Just for info;

                you will see that the enclosure of the Black Stone is in the shape of a dilated female vulva and the Black Stone is in the shape of the crown of the head of the newborn baby deity as it is coming out of the vulva.

                Come closer yet and you will see that people are kissing the head of the newborn baby deity. Kissing the head is an ancient Arab tradition for asking for forgiveness. So kissing the top of the head of the newborn idol as traditionally done to ask for forgiveness, results in the pagan's sins being wiped out as if he or she was a newborn.

                Hang around for a while and you will observe that people spin seven times around the Black Stone. A pre-quranic manuscript written by Epiphanius in the fourth century CE describes the ritual of spinning seven times as part of the birth festivals of the Nabataean idols Allat and Dhushara around the winter solstice. The number seven was considered sacred in Arab and pagan symbolism in general because of the five sacred planets plus the sun and the moon that the ancients venerated. To this day many people in the Arab world celebrate what is termed in Arabic Subu', which is a traditional festival that takes place on the seventh day after the birth of a newborn and on the seventh day after a pilgrims' return. Like the pagan pilgrimage that we observed and Epiphanius described, as part of the Subu' birth celebrations, people traditionally go around the house seven times while carrying the newborn baby.

                God Bless.

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                  Raj-ah
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                  So Br where did the Kaaba come from then?

                  Here it is.

                  http//www.free-minds.org/articles/history/ayman1.htm

                  Now if someone is impressed by false and senseless propganda of ayman, what could one say?
                  But I recommend you better study the topic in detail.
                  before falling prey to false propoganda of ayman,
                  ask ayman where is the Kaaba? he in his article writes some where in northeren arabia, where there was a market, then he says "Kaaba" can be anywhere
                  So which Ayat in Quran tells us that we have to change the "Kaaba" from Northeren arabia to Anywhere or is he the NEW Messanger of Allah?

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                    drfazl
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                    Definitely not makkah but Bukkah; where is it?
                    Until Allah is pleased with me and decides to allow me there,
                    He wont reveal its whereabouts!

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