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Salam Bob. Welcome to the forum )
Wow, a jew. Mashallah. I don't think there are many jews in this forum. I agree code 19 is a fact. But i'm still not sure of the verses being false, so i won't reject them yet. I'm must read take a further research. But with no doubt i know that quran has a numerical system in it. But don't focus to much on the code and stuff. It is the message and knowledge, and gods-system that is most important. You can buy the quran reformist translation at amazon.com. by the way. I bought it a few weeks ago, and it is the best translation i have read until now. I hope you will share your knowledge and thoughts with us at free-minds.
Peace and Respect David
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Thank you for your reply David. No...I am not focusing on the numbers. I merely believe it as proof that the Quran is indeed authored by God. The only copy I have been reading is Dr. Khalifa's translation. It has been enough for me. If God wills that I read other translations, I will be open to that. I look forward to having conversations with other Submitters, God willing.
Peace,
Bob
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Thank you for your reply David. No...I am not focusing on the numbers. I merely believe it as proof that the Quran is indeed authored by God. The only copy I have been reading is Dr. Khalifa's translation. It has been enough for me. If God wills that I read other translations, I will be open to that. I look forward to having conversations with other Submitters, God willing.
Shalom,
Bob
Peace.
Welcome Bob!
I think my mothers side was Jewish (way way back), but then converted to Christianity...still not too sure on the details since there was alot of false names and changing of names to German names etc.
But I know when I read about the verses about code 19, I definitely felt my faith increase drastically there is a you tube video that goes into the number 19 in creation. It was interesting
It talked about something to the effect the earth, moon, and sun are in alignment only once every 19 years or something like that
God willing you can find the you tube video or I can and God willing post it here
YTV
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Salaams
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welcome
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Peace Bob
Thank you for sharing with us
welcome
Peace,
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Salam to i believe,
Praise to God, another brother that had been shed the light from Allah. I pray for your success and may God give us blessing.
Do u mind if i ask u what the Jews think about Muslim? Especially those muslims at Palestine? At my place we've been bombarded with Jews are evil n stuff, tho i think they also wanted to uphold their ideals. What do u think?
Peace be upon us handshake
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Salam to i believe,
Praise to God, another brother that had been shed the light from Allah. I pray for your success and may God give us blessing.
Do u mind if i ask u what the Jews think about Muslim? Especially those muslims at Palestine? At my place we've been bombarded with Jews are evil n stuff, tho i think they also wanted to uphold their ideals. What do u think?
Peace be upon us handshake
Peace.
You should watch the CNN special entitled "God's warriors" it seems to indicate how the three "major" religions in the world seem to believe alot of the same things. and this even clarifies my position further. Organized religion under the guise of any name can be quite dangerous.
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Salam to i believe,
Praise to God, another brother that had been shed the light from Allah. I pray for your success and may God give us blessing.
Do u mind if i ask u what the Jews think about Muslim? Especially those muslims at Palestine? At my place we've been bombarded with Jews are evil n stuff, tho i think they also wanted to uphold their ideals. What do u think?
Peace be upon us handshake
Salaam Fadhli,
I am just one person and cannot speak for all Jews. In my humble opinion I feel it varies greatly from person to person, community to community, even sect to sect. Like Islam as well as other religions, there are many sects of Judaism, each practicing in a different manner. The Hasidic Jews don't consider anyone else a true Jew, not even practicing Orthodox Jews like some members of my family. It is generally accepted that the Jews and the Arabs have been at odds for centuries. I feel this is Satan doing what Satan does best...dividing people and taking as many of them to tell Hell as he can. Jews are not evil, it's people who have been duped by Satan who are evil no matter what religion they are. I try and treat everyone like a brother or sister, in the best possible manner, no matter what religion they are until someone does me wrong, then I turn away not to deal with them anymore. There is no reason to do otherwise because I am commanded by God to do so.
Peace
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Yup you're right bro... it's the people who's been duped by satan that's evil... I guess the core of the problem is the people who are making groups of themselves and upholding their ideals. And worst, using God's and the Prophet's/ Messanger's name... may God guide them..
Peace n Hug group
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Peace.
As I said before I would try to get the video about code 19 in quran and creation.
So here it goes. which by the way is made by a SUNNI. Interestng indeed.
Here is the link God willing it will work.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQMzSCvP_4
YTV
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Peace and welcome I Believe,
Yusuf Ali
17108 "And they say 'Glory to our Lord! Truly has the promise of our Lord been fulfilled!'"
17109 They fall down on their faces in tears, and it increases their (earnest) humility.
17110 Say "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well) for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."
17111 Say "Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!"
I personally do not deny nor accept the 19, but I will admit that it is a magnificent piece of discovery. Praise God.
Peace
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welcome
Just because some people see the difference between God's systems and rumors and hearsay, and true peace and unity versus political agendas and man made conjecture doesn't mean everyone else can! It takes years for people to open their eyes and realise that all prophets preached the same thing and that religion is only one, Submission.
At the end of the day, there is only one God to worship, with no human names or angels to be mentioned beside him, and we are all hybrids here and all believe in mixtures of different things. Some stop at a consensus. Others keep searching and searching and searching and seeking more knowledge. At least we are open-minded about things and admit what we believe and dont believe in. We have the right to take things, and reject others. Unlike Sectarians who have a set system of things that they must follow whether they truly believe in it from their hearts or not.
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Peace Bob
I feel I've been around, on this site now, long enough to wish you a hearty welcome. It especially gladdens my heart when a Jew sees the light, as I view Jews as our special brothers among the people of the book. True they have fought and are fighting Muslims, but they have also been our indispensable allies, especially in Al Andalus which could not have been taken with such minimal amount of bloodshed but for the Jews fighting alongside the Muslims and opening the gates to major cities.
I hope your experience here will be a plasant one. welcome
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Thank you brothers and sisters for your sincere welcomes and replies. Today is 3 weeks that I accepted Submission fully into my heart. I thank God I have been guided. It is a peaceful and wonderful feeling. Feel free to contact me. I appreciate those who have already and the new friends I am making.
Peace
Bob
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Are these the 2 verses you believe are false? Please explain why? I am not Muslim but of all the ones to believe are false, I just don't understand.
There hath come unto you a messenger, (one) of yourselves, unto whom aught that ye are overburdened is grievous, full of concern for you, for the believers full of pity, merciful.
Now, if they turn away (O Muhammad) say Allah sufficeth me. There is no God save Him. In Him have I put my trust, and He is Lord of the Tremendous Throne.
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Peace everyone,
I also don't get the false verse claim. I'd really like to know more about it. Anyone direct me to where i can find out? There doesn't seem anything sus with those verses at all. Claiming that the quran contains false verses doesn't this contradict ALLAH when he says that the quran is divinely protected?
Yeah and welcome Bob... welcome Really enjoyed ur testimony.
