I asked why
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Yes you should ask why ???
Why some Quran aloners think Quran is preserved and other think NOT at all ???
Why Some Quran aloners think ,2 prayers ,some think 3 prayers ,some think five prayers ?? WHy ?
Why some Quran aloners have RK as Rasool while others not Why ??
Why Some Quran aloners think Rasools can come now while others think not ?? why ???
Why each of quran aloner is prostating in a different direction in prayers ?? Why ??
Why a musical congregation is called Hajj in Quran aloners ?? Why??
Why mathematics is more important than Quran for Quran aloners??Peace allen
because we decided to reflect freely and not only follow what the elders/majority told us. I have no problem with people coming to different conclusions. I think your last question shows some confusion.
lk
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Peace allen
because we decided to reflect freely and not only follow what the elders/majority told us. I have no problem with people coming to different conclusions. I think your last question shows some confusion.
lk
Quran says
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(159) As regards this Admonition, it is We Who have sent it down, and We Ourself will preserve it.So it is preserved
RK standardized the Quran on Mathematics and said that Quran is not preserved i.e God word is wrong (m3aazallah) and extracted two verses;
It clearly shows two conclusions
--Quran aloners think God's word is wrong
-- Mathematics is standard not God's word -
Peace Allen
the confusion i spoke about is the one you have about "quran aloners". Only some of the people that believe in the existence of the code seem to give more importance to mathematics than the quran. Many "quran aloners" don't even believe in the existence of a code.
lk
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Quran says
159
(159) As regards this Admonition, it is We Who have sent it down, and We Ourself will preserve it.So it is preserved
RK standardized the Quran on Mathematics and said that Quran is not preserved i.e God word is wrong (m3aazallah) and extracted two verses;
It clearly shows two conclusions
--Quran aloners think God's word is wrong
-- Mathematics is standard not God's wordI really wish you would stop making generalizations.
As Elke said
because we decided to reflect freely and not only follow what the elders/majority told us. I have no problem with people coming to different conclusions.
We all make our own conclusions as to what is correct. We have no way of knowing what is absolutely right. I am sure that each and every one of us has made a wrong conclusion about something (this includes all the traditionalists as well as everyone on earth no matter what their religion). It is human nature to make mistakes. The wonderful thing about being human is our ability to make our own choices.
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Are RK and his followers not 'Quran aloners'??
Yes, however, you made the implication that ALL "Quran aloners" believe the same thing which is a complete fallacy.
Quran aloners think God's word is wrong
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Are RK and his followers not 'Quran aloners'??
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1591 Who have made the Qur'?n into parts.
To believe in one part and disbelieve in the other (i.e. 9128-129) contradicts same as adding to Qur?an.
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1591 Who have made the Qur'?n into parts.
To believe in one part and disbelieve in the other (i.e. 9128-129) contradicts same as adding to Qur?an.
Mathematical proof
What do these numbers tell ??Rashid = =
200+1+300+4= 505 = 5+0+5=10=1+0= 1
Shaitaan =
300+10+9+1+50=370=3+7+0=10=1+0=1Theory of 19
= 1+9 = 10=1+0 = 1
The earth was purified from him in 1990
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Quran says
159
(159) As regards this Admonition, it is We Who have sent it down, and We Ourself will preserve it.So it is preserved
RK standardized the Quran on Mathematics and said that Quran is not preserved i.e God word is wrong (m3aazallah) and extracted two verses;
It clearly shows two conclusions
--Quran aloners think God's word is wrong
-- Mathematics is standard not God's wordIn the meantime, ?Umar sat on the pulpit and when the callmakers for the prayer had finished their call, ?Umar stood up, and having glorified and praised Allah as He deserved, he said, ?Now then, I am going to tell you something which (Allah) has written for me to say. I do not know; perhaps it portends my death, so whoever understands and remembers it, must narrate it to the others wherever his mount takes him, but if somebody is afraid that he does not understand it, then it is unlawful for him to tell lies about me. Allah sent Muhammad with the Truth and revealed the Holy Book to him, and among what Allah revealed, was the Verse of the Rajam (the stoning of married person (male & female) who commits illegal sexual intercourse, and we did recite this Verse and understood and memorized it. Allah?s Apostle did carry out the punishment of stoning and so did we after him.
I am afraid that after a long time has passed, somebody will say, ?By Allah, we do not find the Verse of the Rajam in Allah?s Book,? and thus they will go astray by leaving an obligation which Allah has revealed. And the punishment of the Rajam is to be inflicted to any married person (male & female), who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if the required evidence is available or there is conception or confession. And then we used to recite among the Verses in Allah?s Book ?O people! Do not claim to be the offspring of other than your fathers, as it is disbelief (unthankfulness) on your part that you claim to be the offspring of other than your real father.? Then (unrelated)
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Narrated Ibn ?AbbasUmar said, ?I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, ?We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,? and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.? Sufyan added, ?I have memorized this narration in this way.? ?Umar added, ?Surely Allah?s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.?
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Ibn Mardawayh reported that Hudhayfah saidUmar said to me ?How many verses are contained in the chapter of al-Ahzab?? I said, ?72 or 73 verses.? He said it was almost as long as the chapter of the Cow, which contains 287 verses, and in it there was the verse of stoning.
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Ayesha?When the verses ?Rajm? and ayah ?Rezah Kabir? descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad (S) a goat ate the piece of paper while we were mourning.?
Another translation goesThe verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (SAWW.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper.
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Yes you should ask why ???
Why some Quran aloners think Quran is preserved and other think NOT at all ???
Why Some Quran aloners think ,2 prayers ,some think 3 prayers ,some think five prayers ?? WHy ?
Why some Quran aloners have RK as Rasool while others not Why ??
Why Some Quran aloners think Rasools can come now while others think not ?? why ???
Why each of quran aloner is prostating in a different direction in prayers ?? Why ??
Why a musical congregation is called Hajj in Quran aloners ?? Why??
Why mathematics is more important than Quran for Quran aloners??Err....I don't subscribe to be a Quran aloner but I do believe that the Quran was the Word of God, and the only message worth considering. Personally, I don't subscribe to a sect. I'm just a muslim. And muslims have diversified opinions on how to practice the religion.