Malaysian Govt. prohibits Christians from using the term Allah!
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Its definitely true
http//www.malaysiakini.com/news/76302
The word ?Allah? can only be used in the context of Islam and not any other religion,
said Deputy Internal Security Minister Johari Baharum.Came with no suprise to me..
Malaysia is a truly Sunni sectarian country.
The sunni priest / ulama acts and enforce power similar to what Catholic Church has done in medieval europe.Everyone borned from sunni's father is automatically a sunni and fell under their juristictions.
You have to "report" to the "council of ulema" and gain their permission if you want to bail out from the sunni sect. (they call it "Islam"
And they will judge whether it is lawful or unlawful (murtaad)..Salam
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Its definitely true
http//www.malaysiakini.com/news/76302
The word ?Allah? can only be used in the context of Islam and not any other religion,
said Deputy Internal Security Minister Johari Baharum.Came with no suprise to me..
Malaysia is a truly Sunni sectarian country.
The sunni priest / ulama acts and enforce power similar to what Catholic Church has done in medieval europe.Everyone borned from sunni's father is automatically a sunni and fell under their juristictions.
You have to "report" to the "council of ulema" and gain their permission if you want to bail out from the sunni sect. (they call it "Islam"
And they will judge whether it is lawful or unlawful (murtaad)..Salam
Regarding the use of the word "Allah", the link you give adds nothing to what has already been posted and you yourself do not add anything either on the subject of the thread.
I am not going to go into the rest.
Salaam
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Regarding the use of the word "Allah", the link you give adds nothing to what has already been posted and you yourself do not add anything either on the subject of the thread.
I am not going to go into the rest.
Salaam
Okay then bro huruf I add something about this case..
The prohibition is mainly due to the Malaysia sunni sectarian govt. main concerns of "upholding the aqedah". (read fear of the widespread of christianism). Thus they ban the right of use on the word "Allah" as a reference to God to the catholics. They wanted to "uphold the aqedah" and dogma that Catholic's God and Sunni.. ergh... Islam's God is not the same.M'sia govt and their "Majlis Ulema" has also prohibited any other effort to "destroy the Aqedah", such as the "Quran alone" movement which recently has also starting to wide-spread in that country. Anyone whose known of openly spreading the "Quran-alone-ism" or "anti-hadist-ism" can be subjected to trial over heresy and suspected to be a jewish zionist agent.
http//www.islam.gov.my/portal/lihat.php?jakim=104
http//www.e-ulama.org/Berita/Default.asp?mode=0&ID=200
(In Malay)There's one anonymous m'sians guy who maintains a website spreading his heretical belief of "anti-hadist-ism" and "Quran-alone-ism".
Site http//www.e-bacaan.com/ (Malay Language)Salam
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Salam,
I am shocked by the latest move by the Malaysian Goverment,I believe the move made by the Goverment was inspired by the goverment's ulema themselves.
All sunnis in malaysia generally brought up in the Sha'fi' sect environment and they are not exposed to other version of sunnism or shiaim, let alone christians believes. Heck if you ask anybody in the street in malaysia..they dont even know that they are a sunni..Kids in school are told not to touch the bible and all other books that are not in-line with the Shafi sect will be banned by the goverment's ulema. Hence with little exposure of the outside world in the upbringing of malaysian children, the goverment believes that malaysians will get confused if the same terminology is used by Christians in their translation of the holy bible and other chiristians reading material in malay languange.
IMHO the goverment is just covering their people minds to protect their fragile minds. The root cause is the way the sunnis are brought up..not the terminology used in reading materials
2946 "....And say "We believed with what was descended on (to) us, and was descended to you, and our God, and your God (is) one, and we are to Him Moslems/submitters ."
salam
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Salam,
IMHO the goverment is just covering their people minds to protect their fragile minds. The root cause is the way the sunnis are brought up..not the terminology used in reading materials
2946 "....And say "We believed with what was descended on (to) us, and was descended to you, and our God, and your God (is) one, and we are to Him Moslems/submitters ."
salam
And what will happen if it is confirmed that Buddha indeed believed in a God he referred to as Allah?
The time may come when the rest of the world will get togather and say Allah is our God not yours hypno
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And what will happen if it is confirmed that Buddha indeed believed in a God he referred to as Allah?
The time may come when the rest of the world will get togather and say Allah is our God not yours hypno
im going far fetched here.
If Buddha indeed belived in the Books inspired by God to his prophet..then he is a muslm(somebody who submit) it does not matter what terminology he used to call upon his God.salam
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im going far fetched here.
If Buddha indeed belived in the Books inspired by God to his prophet..then he is a muslm(somebody who submit) it does not matter what terminology he used to call upon his God.salam
Salaam
The rumour is that Buddha believed in Allah and, apparently he is mentioned in Qur?an.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15963.0My joke was that, since hardly any s.c. Muslims take Allah alone to be their God and Freeminders do not believe in using the name Allah and prefer ?God? so you can soon see who will take over.
Regards
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Peace,
I'm not surprised at all.
I have lived in Malaysia in a state named Kelantan and it was muslim ruled and of shafii sect.
I have been married with a guy from there during 15 years and I was also many years in that sect yuck
The shafii sect is very strict and you cannot touch Quran without ablution and you cannot have pictures on the wall and on your curtains etc.
When people are so blind and are like parrots well it's not strange that they come up with silly things like this, forbid nonmuslims using the term "Allah".Once when I was younger and still married to that shafii guy, I came in contact with a woman from Eritrea on a job I have back then. I heard her talked in phone one day and she said " Assalamu Alaikum", later I asked her-are you muslim?, she said that she is christian but speak a language close to Arabic.
So, I found out that it's not only religious words but basic language they use both muslims, christians and more.
Maria