check this out - dajjal stuff on youtube

humandesign

I can't obviously authenticate the series of videos here (see the link below) - but it has helped me make the connection between my alien experience and the dajjal movement (that I beleive I had been deliberately programmed to ignore - but my subconscious mind had been trying to take me there)

I have watched most of the videos - some of them are very slow - others are extremely informative and get to the point. Some of the relevelations are too scary - but I guess it is anyone's right to filter out anything that does not agree with thier conscience and take what resonates with them.

Regardless of the motives of the movie makers - it has strenghtened my resolve in Islam the quran and the Hadith.

I would advise starting from the first video (pt1)

Enjoy!

http//www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=HashemsFilms2&page=9

Tay

Peace and welcome, humandesign,

The concept of dajjal(anti-christ) is extra-quranic. It is, I'm sorry to say, complete nonsense and completely out of tune with the message of the quran and the attributes of our Creator. What role does dajjal play in our development and guidance? How does it fit in with God's message of mercy and benevolence?

Further, these people who perpetuate the idea of reptilians seem to be a bit off-center, to say the least. I read David Icke's book, "Robots Guide..." and stopped right after the anectdote after anecdote of people who escaped the human-hunting trips of Bill Clinton and George Bush on Mount Shasta. He used to believe in "reptilian shapeshifters" also, until people stopped taking him seriously.

I understand the fascination with this stuff but there comes a point where you gotta say to yourself, "Come on! How far am I gonna go? How many first-person accounts am I gonna believe without a shred of evidence or an iota of purpose?"

Honestly, whatever you experienced or are experiencing probably has a much better explanation than this stuff.

Peace,
Tay

Lost_Philosopher

What role does dajjal play in our development and guidance? How does it fit in with God's message of mercy and benevolence?

The Carrot and the Stick, perhaps?

humandesign

Do not visit that site - it is the worst trap I have ever encountered which I feel has been designed by the dajjall imovement itself.

I am logging on today to say that I am so sorry to have submitted the first post here. Administrator - Please ,Please delete the first post that I gave on this topic.

The reason is because I have figured out what these people are up to It is a mind programming technique - whereby I don't know if they are using their own sublimal messages - but they are basically mixing Islam up with the dajjal stuff to confuse people's minds - so that you are deprogrammed subconsciously - basically so that your mind gets mixed up with so much of the junk with the protection that Allah gave us as the last measure - so that the protection does not work anymore.

This realisation came to me last night - after having watched the stuff - not only was I having episodes of what I can describe as jinn type/influenced dreams of a technological nature (these seemed to be exclusive in type - I have not experienced them previously)- but on waking when I sought protection I did not find the relief that I normally felt after intentionally praying to God. I did not understand why and was worried about this and still prayed to God for help as I fell asleep again this time I dreamt of something that I do not want to go in to the details of - but breifly if I was a man intersted in internet porn - then probably the dream would be understandable - but I am not a man and have never been interested in women or in porn - nor have I seen anything of the nature recently.. I tried to get away from it at which point I woke up - almost like it was a conscious decision to wake up and this realisation came to me instantly - what is really going on here. There are other reactions I gave off aswell in daily life - but I won't bother going in to all of that.

I will never watch that stuff agian. Those of you have - if what I say fits in with your reasoning - then simply do not go there again and pray deeply/consciously/intentionally to God for guidance and protection. And others who are internet savoy - warn them about this new technological appraoch of the dajjal.

If you feel effected - I am quite sure that with time the effects would disappear - but you may or may not remember your dreams/be conscious of the effects - so you may not understand to what extent you were effected by this.. yes there is a lot of truth in what they are exposing about themselves -but that perhaps is the best way to desensitise you to their truths. And it is the way of the satan to use deception as a tactic - mix truth with lies or otherwise hidden agendas in order to make it more convincing and infiltrate our brains. But this time they appear to be really messing big time it's quite ingenious - by desensitising you to the Islamic message - but place your reliance and faith on Allah and turn away - as surely Allah is the best of all planners.

Also there were clear discrepancies on their stuff which loomed as question marks on mind as I watched over them - which I will breifly outline here

There is a phtograph of the guys that engineered the films - showing the x sign with their arms (after they had deplored this as a symbol of dajjal) and in one picture H...is winking - symbolising the one eye - after they had deplored others in clips symbolising the one eye in such a manner. This is obviously sending mixed messages to your brain.
The Islamic messages are generally sped by too fast for you to be able to read properly - such that you have to go back and pause it to read it- wheras the more deplored stuff such as music, film clips, cartoon clips are given a great deal of time - indeed with most showing the whole footage. After laying claim to the powers of sublimal messaging - they are still presenting what they target as sublimal messaging - in a very slow and unneccessary way - why?
H.... himself makes a statement that they are using magic to give a strong message to the viewers -- but then also reassures that it is of a technological nature and that we all use magic in such ways. There you have your truth of whathe is up backed up with decptive lowering of yur defenses. Also persoanally I feel it is wrong for him to say what others do or don't do without knowing them persoanally.
H.... targets some false prophet - to show him up - but it is so apparent how he has used deception himself as a tactic to spy on the guy and expose him. (deception is the way of dajjal)
H... recommends meditation and shamanic herbs etc - Through deliberate meditation (by forcing yourself to go to an alternate state) and psychedelic drugs you are essentailly visiting other realms (the ubknown - that which is commonly forbidden in Islam) and are vulnerable to the attachment of other entitites on to you. I don't beleive that such practices are part of the natural human design.
No one can say for certain what will happen or won't happen - only God knows. But they try to pose the apocolypse as a near future sure thing - they put a time on it.

All in all it would appear technology+deception = is the next biggest weapon.

To the person who does not beileive in the dajjjal movement - apparrently it is qouted about in the Quran somewhere - perhaps at the end and I think the title contains the word 'dajjal' - but I am yet to look this up.

I do feel that it was my movement away from the Dajjal concept that led to my experience with the occult - as I thought it was all in the name of good spirituatlity - but I was behaving ignorant. I would not recommend that you go out and try Occult practices - but I would say that it may be more diffulcult for you to understand/appreciate unless you have been there yourself. But then again -you may not - as not everyone has eyes and ears open - that will be according to Allahs' will.

I don't beleive that Icke claims to be a Muslim of any kind - so his theories are likely to be skewed in some way or even he could be part of the same movement outlined above. I did once try looking to see what thoughts he had on a certain occult practice - I found recommendations for it on his site (though not by him personally but by others on his site) which to me confirmed a suspicion that I had originally held about him.

I persoanally feel that when you are rejecting the dajjal movement - you are effectively rejecting the concept of Satan's plan (that which I belive is clearly referenced in the Quran) to bring humans down and way from their natural true divine being (honouring our true divine being I beleive is in itself an act of worship to God) I don't beleive that the two concepts of satan and dajjal movement conflict with each other in any way. It's just that the dajjal concept sheds light in our current age of how satan may be accomplising his mission.

In any case you do what feels within your conscience as I will do what is within mine. Malik yaouwmiddeen - God will be the owner of judgement.

Peace and blessings on all of humanity.

Administrator - Please ,Please delete the first post that I gave on this topic.

Prince

Do not visit that site - it is the worst trap I have ever encountered which I feel has been designed by the dajjall imovement itself.

I am logging on today to say that I am so sorry to have submitted the first post here. Administrator - Please ,Please delete the first post that I gave on this topic.

The reason is because I have figured out what these people are up to It is a mind programming technique - whereby I don't know if they are using their own sublimal messages - but they are basically mixing Islam up with the dajjal stuff to confuse people's minds - so that you are deprogrammed subconsciously - basically so that your mind gets mixed up with so much of the junk with the protection that Allah gave us as the last measure - so that the protection does not work anymore.

This realisation came to me last night - after having watched the stuff - not only was I having episodes of what I can describe as jinn type/influenced dreams of a technological nature (these seemed to be exclusive in type - I have not experienced them previously)- but on waking when I sought protection I did not find the relief that I normally felt after intentionally praying to God. I did not understand why and was worried about this and still prayed to God for help as I fell asleep again this time I dreamt of something that I do not want to go in to the details of - but breifly if I was a man intersted in internet porn - then probably the dream would be understandable - but I am not a man and have never been interested in women or in porn - nor have I seen anything of the nature recently.. I tried to get away from it at which point I woke up - almost like it was a conscious decision to wake up and this realisation came to me instantly - what is really going on here. There are other reactions I gave off aswell in daily life - but I won't bother going in to all of that.

I will never watch that stuff agian. Those of you have - if what I say fits in with your reasoning - then simply do not go there again and pray deeply/consciously/intentionally to God for guidance and protection. And others who are internet savoy - warn them about this new technological appraoch of the dajjal.

If you feel effected - I am quite sure that with time the effects would disappear - but you may or may not remember your dreams/be conscious of the effects - so you may not understand to what extent you were effected by this.. yes there is a lot of truth in what they are exposing about themselves -but that perhaps is the best way to desensitise you to their truths. And it is the way of the satan to use deception as a tactic - mix truth with lies or otherwise hidden agendas in order to make it more convincing and infiltrate our brains. But this time they appear to be really messing big time it's quite ingenious - by desensitising you to the Islamic message - but place your reliance and faith on Allah and turn away - as surely Allah is the best of all planners.

Also there were clear discrepancies on their stuff which loomed as question marks on mind as I watched over them - which I will breifly outline here

There is a phtograph of the guys that engineered the films - showing the x sign with their arms (after they had deplored this as a symbol of dajjal) and in one picture H...is winking - symbolising the one eye - after they had deplored others in clips symbolising the one eye in such a manner. This is obviously sending mixed messages to your brain.
The Islamic messages are generally sped by too fast for you to be able to read properly - such that you have to go back and pause it to read it- wheras the more deplored stuff such as music, film clips, cartoon clips are given a great deal of time - indeed with most showing the whole footage. After laying claim to the powers of sublimal messaging - they are still presenting what they target as sublimal messaging - in a very slow and unneccessary way - why?
H.... himself makes a statement that they are using magic to give a strong message to the viewers -- but then also reassures that it is of a technological nature and that we all use magic in such ways. There you have your truth of whathe is up backed up with decptive lowering of yur defenses. Also persoanally I feel it is wrong for him to say what others do or don't do without knowing them persoanally.
H.... targets some false prophet - to show him up - but it is so apparent how he has used deception himself as a tactic to spy on the guy and expose him. (deception is the way of dajjal)
H... recommends meditation and shamanic herbs etc - Through deliberate meditation (by forcing yourself to go to an alternate state) and psychedelic drugs you are essentailly visiting other realms (the ubknown - that which is commonly forbidden in Islam) and are vulnerable to the attachment of other entitites on to you. I don't beleive that such practices are part of the natural human design.
No one can say for certain what will happen or won't happen - only God knows. But they try to pose the apocolypse as a near future sure thing - they put a time on it.

All in all it would appear technology+deception = is the next biggest weapon.

To the person who does not beileive in the dajjjal movement - apparrently it is qouted about in the Quran somewhere - perhaps at the end and I think the title contains the word 'dajjal' - but I am yet to look this up.

I do feel that it was my movement away from the Dajjal concept that led to my experience with the occult - as I thought it was all in the name of good spirituatlity - but I was behaving ignorant. I would not recommend that you go out and try Occult practices - but I would say that it may be more diffulcult for you to understand/appreciate unless you have been there yourself. But then again -you may not - as not everyone has eyes and ears open - that will be according to Allahs' will.

I don't beleive that Icke claims to be a Muslim of any kind - so his theories are likely to be skewed in some way or even he could be part of the same movement outlined above. I did once try looking to see what thoughts he had on a certain occult practice - I found recommendations for it on his site (though not by him personally but by others on his site) which to me confirmed a suspicion that I had originally held about him.

I persoanally feel that when you are rejecting the dajjal movement - you are effectively rejecting the concept of Satan's plan (that which I belive is clearly referenced in the Quran) to bring humans down and way from their natural true divine being (honouring our true divine being I beleive is in itself an act of worship to God) I don't beleive that the two concepts of satan and dajjal movement conflict with each other in any way. It's just that the dajjal concept sheds light in our current age of how satan may be accomplising his mission.

In any case you do what feels within your conscience as I will do what is within mine. Malik yaouwmiddeen - God will be the owner of judgement.

Peace and blessings on all of humanity.

Administrator - Please ,Please delete the first post that I gave on this topic.

Wouldn't it be more reasonable to search something up on the Quran and then believe instead of the other way round because I can assure you there's nothing about the coming of dajjal in the Quran - its a christian belief thats crept in Islam of anti -christ.

If you say that rejecting dajjal means rejecting the concept of satans plan wouldn't you think such a big thing like this God would tell us in the Quran of satans plan?

Have you also thought that with christians, jews and "muslims" believing in the coming of dajjal with all the "signs" of his are actually creating a self fulfilling prophecy. Your mind is powerful and can create anything.....if you want to create a dajjal of some sort in your mind on how he's planning to take over the world you will only see that in life and discard other facts hence creating a delusional reality around you.

I suggest you approach things rationally and with reason and logic and study the Quran objectively to help you with this because from reading your posts your going way off the rails in my honest opinion.

PEACE

humandesign

Thanks I will go and look more in the Quran immediately.

I didn't mean to say that I know for a fact that the typified dajjal movement is taking place. I really woudn't take things as so black and white - with the notion of dajjal - as I sadi in myfirst post - take whatresonates and leave waht does not. . But as far as I stand - The wisdom concerning satan the outcast as contained in the Quran is consistent with my own expereinces. I am not really concerned so much about the future as I am about my present expereinces. Only God knows what is in the future - I can only work with what I know to be true from my own experience. And there are a lot of mind programming and manipulative techniques out there in this society that are designed ot use you or take over or buy you in soem manner- it is not just in my mind. This thing is real and happening right now - forget about the coming of the mahdi or hell or heaven - focus on who is trying to do what at this time.

I was also being sincere in my reasoning - I did not mean to put forward that it is there in the Quran - just that it is possibly there and is in need of further exploration. It was only a recent revelation that I came accross and so I have not had the time to explore it further yet - but I definitely felt the need to get my overall warning about not visiting that site out with great haste.

Lets' forget about the dajjal tittle and lets just call it the satanic movement for simplicity's sake. Satans plan is to take you away from the Divine - this is referenced in the Quran - anything that falls in to that category we can call as the satanic movement. Jinns are referenced in the Quran as both good and bad, - these are what are the multi-dimensional beings that I beleive I have had experience of. In one translation of the Quran it is referenced how Allah is owner of ALL THE WORLDS. Hence - there may be other existences out ther unknwon to us. In terms of what I am talking about this is all we need to know from the Quran.

As I said originally - you would need to dwelve in the occult and feel scared and not understand why you felt scared until you came accross the revelations which helped you join up the dots.

So it is really the other way around - unexplained phenomena - then dajjal explanations came to make sense. The one eye phenomena and aliens is real in my own expereince.

I will go in to greater reseach with the Quran - Though I know you may be right - when I was first researching years ago I did not find anything in the Quran. But in doing so - Lets not forget that the Quran has heavy empahsis on past history rather than current times. If there was a focus on current times it may have referenced how it might be be haram to eat sweets loaded with preservatieves, artificial colours, meat that has been injected with hormones, or even taking of drugs, smoking etc.

Peace