When you follow Quran alone
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None of those are abrogated. The meaning is simple - alcohol is both good and bad but more bad than good. As for 'satan' (temptation? distraction?) I would take issue with that concept but in any case, there is no contradiction or abrogation.
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to clarify a small point, 590 is often mistranslated as far as I'm aware, so it should read
O ye who believe! Strong drink and games of chance and idols and divining arrows are only an infamy of Satan?s handiwork. Leave him (satan) aside in order that ye may succeed.
use the forum search function to verify the above.
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pvb,
I recommend using the search function, this topic (like most questions asked on the forum) have been discussed before and in significant detail. Unless you have an agenda as to why you ask questions you already know the answer to.
If you answer you do not know the answer and it is a genuine question, then you clearly did not understand the verses you quoted and/or do not wish to use the search function.
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A man has heart disease and told by MD to drink a glass of red wine each night. In Islamic country this wouldn't be allowed, or would it?
If the doctor read his journals he would find that it (antioxidants) can also be found in grapes and the effect has absolutely nothing to do with ethanol itself.
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Isn't alcohol not allowed in Islam? Then what about the good? "good nourishment"
If something is both good and bad shouldn't it be a personal choice?
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Human mind is pretty wise to decide what is beneficial or harmful to the body.Let the decision be from human mind not from imaginary commandments. -
From your link
"Several alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages have been investigated with regard to their possible effects on the body antioxidant system. It has been reported that red wine is more active as an antioxidant than either white wine or grape juice, and that ethyl alcohol fails to show any protective effect in this regard, suggesting that the antioxidant activity of the red wine does not arise from its alcohol content."
So you are saying to use a non-alcoholic red wine?
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From your link
"Several alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages have been investigated with regard to their possible effects on the body antioxidant system. It has been reported that red wine is more active as an antioxidant than either white wine or grape juice, and that ethyl alcohol fails to show any protective effect in this regard, suggesting that the antioxidant activity of the red wine does not arise from its alcohol content."
So you are saying to use a non-alcoholic red wine?
I think you can read clearly for yourself what the best options are.
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khamrun can also mean intoxication. That is the word used in 2219 and 520, whereas sakar only means alcoholic drink, that is the word used in 1667. Just to let you know most alcoholic drinks have their alcohol content enhanced in order for people to get drunk and that is why most drink it. However natural fermentation which produces alchohol from yeast also produces alot of b vitamins and enchances the nutrition of the fermented foods. Also alcohol can enhance the potency of herbs by bringin out their oil based chemical constituents. So let me say that you can drink without getting drunk if the product has a moderate level of alchohol in it and that can easily be done. Traditional African millet beer for instance is a think almost porridge like drink that is alcoholic but you have to drink a whole lot of it to get drunk and if you do that that means you were trying to get drunk. And that is the act of satan, drunkeness. But if you drink sakar make sure it is a whole food or purely medicinal offering your body nutrition or medicine. But if you drink distilled liquors or processed, patuerized beers or wines with the alcohol content intentionally hopped up (they breed yeast with high alcohol resistence and add extra sugar to the grape juice that the yeast will turn into alchohol) well then your out to get drunk or atleast poison body, which is also sin. God told us to eat of the tayyibaat, and that does not include worthless consumables, distilled liquor and most store bough alcohols included.
In the old days it was a easily preserved, nutritious food (and you had to be careful about how much you consumed), now it is an abused drug. An escape for many. Just like the difference between the coca leaf and cocaine.
Godbless,
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Isn't alcohol not allowed in Islam? Then what about the good? "good nourishment"
If something is both good and bad shouldn't it be a personal choice?
One should look at the issue behind alcohol and Islam. Its not a clear cut case, even though we have Quran facists here trying to make out it is such.
