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    unknownuser
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    Hi ? surah 75 verses 17-19 explains?

    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvAo33-eaxM

    Peace

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      ayani
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      http//www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Chronological_Order_of_the_Quran

      salam, Tarmo.

      i've always through the Quran should be in chronological order. nothing would be corrupted or re-written, but the surat would be in order. it would make the Message much easier to understand and read, too.

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        kaiwai
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        http//www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Chronological_Order_of_the_Quran

        salam, Tarmo.

        i've always through the Quran should be in chronological order. nothing would be corrupted or re-written, but the surat would be in order. it would make the Message much easier to understand and read, too.

        I agree. Considering it was later people who put it into the order we see today; all we would be merely doing is putting it back into the original form which was received to Muhammad (pbuh).

        I would go so far as to have mandatory explanation notes as well along with disclosure of the authors relationship (their sect affiliation) because I have seen some shocking translations which have been pawed off as 'genuine translations' - a prime example of that would be Dr Muhammad Muhsin Khan's translation where he liberally litters through his bias against women, jews and Christians (along with a good condemnation of homosexuals for good measure).

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          Wakas
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          Considering it was later people who put it into the order we see today;

          This may not be true. This topic has been discussed before in detail. I recommend using the search function.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Rustum
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            Salaam

            I have Put the Quraan in its Order of revelation, i have used the Message Translation, i plan to god willing do a Khalifah version and a Literal Transliteration Arabic version as wellll......

            I believe This is ALLAH fullfilling 75..... i do look foward to binding my 2 quraans and getting them out there....

            oh by the way having put them together i found out that the Quraan is a collection of 7 distinct books, that is why i have 2 in revelation order now, i found this out while working on the second collection.. note the ayat AL QURAAN and the 7 Pairs...

            the 7 individual books each have a set of the Mysterious Letters ...it is very interesting stuff that god willing i will be sharing here in a little bit......

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              ayani
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              Kaiwai ~ it's truly shocking and distressing what some translators will put into brackets... the translation that is perhaps the most universalist is Mohammed Asad's. handshake

              Rustum ~ that is really neat! insha'allah.

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                Kaiwai ~ it's truly shocking and distressing what some translators will put into brackets... ( the translation that is perhaps the most universalist is Mohammed Asad's. handshake

                Rustum ~ that is really neat! insha'allah.

                Here is quite a good review of the various translations

                http//www.meforum.org/article/717

                My motto; if it is banned by Saudi Arabia, it must be a good translation )

                Its quite interesting to see the slight variations between the different translations; I tend to take the middle ground and reason my way out of a sticky situation P

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                  ayani
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                  Its quite interesting to see the slight variations between the different translations; I tend to take the middle ground and reason my way out of a sticky situation

                  me, too. ;D

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                    Rustum
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                    Here are the Quraan and the 7 pairs

                    96-36 (al-Zabor) 50(Q) 38(S) 7(A.L.M.S) 36(Y.S.)
                    25-56(al-Furqaan) 19(K.H.Y.A.S) 20(T.H.)
                    26-28(Kitab Mubeen) 26(T.S.M) 27(T.S.) 28(T.S.M)
                    17-37(Kitan ul Musa) 10(A.L.R) 11(A.L.R) 12(A.L.R) 15(A.L.R.)
                    31-46(Kitab ul Hakeem) 31(A.L.M) 40(H.M) 41(H.M) 42(H.M) 43(H.M) 44(H.M) 45(H.M) 46(H.M)
                    51-23(Kitab el Ebadi) 14(A.L.R)
                    32-110(Kitab ul Raybafeehi) 32(A.L.M) 30(A.L.M) 29(A.L.M) 2(A.L.M) 3(A.L.M) 13(A.L.M.R)

                    as i noted before the 7 individual books also have these Letters matched up with them and note that they do not over lap, but are paired up each with an individual Book....

                    This was found during the last Ramadan while i was pasting my second Quraan together.
                    I have yet to understand its meaning other then the Ayat "Al Quraan and the 7 Pairs)
                    mashaallah this will lead us to a better understanding of ALLAH's Kalaam Akbar....

                    by the Way i refer to my Fist revelation order Quraan as the Imams quraan
                    and this second as the Circle of 7 kitabs Quraan or Marabots Quraan

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                      adjwi
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                      Peace all,

                      Rustum, I hear your excitement but I don't know it's about what. Could you be more precise in your affirmations please?

                      I have Put the Quraan in its Order of revelation, i have used the Message Translation, i plan to god willing do a Khalifah version and a Literal Transliteration Arabic version as wellll......

                      What are you saying? How did you ''Put the Quraan in its Order of revelation'' any differently than what we know?

                      I believe This is ALLAH fullfilling 75.....

                      What are you alluding to? 75? confused

                      i do look foward to binding my 2 quraans and getting them out there....

                      What two quraans?

                      oh by the way having put them together i found out that the Quraan is a collection of 7 distinct books, that is why i have 2 in revelation order now, i found this out while working on the second collection.. note the ayat AL QURAAN and the 7 Pairs...

                      I'm confused with all these ...

                      the 7 individual books each have a set of the Mysterious Letters ...it is very interesting stuff that god willing i will be sharing here in a little bit......

                      Oh, a new mystery... Are you the new master?

                      Here are the Quraan and the 7 pairs

                      96-36 (al-Zabor) 50(Q) 38(S) 7(A.L.M.S) 36(Y.S.)
                      25-56(al-Furqaan) 19(K.H.Y.A.S) 20(T.H.)
                      26-28(Kitab Mubeen) 26(T.S.M) 27(T.S.) 28(T.S.M)
                      17-37(Kitan ul Musa) 10(A.L.R) 11(A.L.R) 12(A.L.R) 15(A.L.R.)
                      31-46(Kitab ul Hakeem) 31(A.L.M) 40(H.M) 41(H.M) 42(H.M) 43(H.M) 44(H.M) 45(H.M) 46(H.M)
                      51-23(Kitab el Ebadi) 14(A.L.R)
                      32-110(Kitab ul Raybafeehi) 32(A.L.M) 30(A.L.M) 29(A.L.M) 2(A.L.M) 3(A.L.M) 13(A.L.M.R)

                      Are those the 7 pairs? What does 96-36 mean? And so on.

                      as i noted before the 7 individual books also have these Letters matched up with them and note that they do not over lap, but are paired up each with an individual Book....

                      This was found during the last Ramadan while i was pasting my second Quraan together.
                      I have yet to understand its meaning other then the Ayat "Al Quraan and the 7 Pairs)
                      mashaallah this will lead us to a better understanding of ALLAH's Kalaam Akbar....

                      by the Way i refer to my Fist revelation order Quraan as the Imams quraan
                      and this second as the Circle of 7 kitabs Quraan or Marabots Quraan

                      Is this an African folk Quraan(s) ? ???

                      So where's the meat to what you are saying? eat

                      adjwi

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                        unknownuser
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                        Yeah, I thought it was promising but what on Earth is "96-36" supposed to mean? All of those "books" overlap.

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