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    Alen
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    peace,
    Respectfully.

    What can we do, individually or as a group, to help the Real and True Islam emerge from this reality and become apparent that what we see today in the Mid-East, is not Islam and that those people are not completely Muslims?

    I mean, we all have different ideas, write books, make movies, send leaflets, open websites but satan will always be attacking in the form of sunnis or other ways. So, what do we do?

    I say that we need to be first united.
    How do we stay united?
    I heard Merkel from Germany has said this, how do we keep EU united?
    So, i asked myself the same question we are here, we always talk, we always write, we do exist but what to do to stay in existance and to come out and be ourselves?

    I remember when i was in London and i had to pretend that i was a sunni but then i stopped and said, no more, i am me, i am a Muslim and i follow Quran alone. So they threatned to kill me but that's why we need to challenge them academically

    ask any sunni to produce a proof that sunna and hadith are part of Islam

    and you will see what happens. I have done the same to sunnis here in this little twon and they banned me from the local masjid because they knew they got nothing against me and that their books and books of hadeeth cannot compete with the Quran.

    I did ask them a few questions regarding hadith and since they did not have answers, they would either lower their heads or walk away saying that i was the ignorant one. Need i say more?

    So.
    If we are gonna write a book about the Real and True Islam, let's do that, if we are gonna do it on the internet, in a form of a movie or a song, then let's do it. Let's start simple. We can start by saying i wish you peace or saying just peace when we meet someone or depart from a group. Instead of inshaAllah i say God willing and these guys always look at me like it's my fault for not knowing Arabic.

    I once read on this forum that we should form an Islamic state. Islamic country? Well, let's startb slow. Let's form an Islamic street, let's buy property, let's form a community, each group in their own city or country, God willing. Slowly we will build a mosque where people will pray to God alone and not mention any other names in the prayer besides the name of Allah.

    If this ever gets on TV, God willing, then it's a start.
    I hope i didn't started a topic that was already started.
    May God AllMighty, The Most Merciful, The Most Powerful bless us all and guides us all to the Straight Path and into Heaven.

    Peace.

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      UncleCasual
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      In the name of God, most merciful, most compassionate.
      Peace be with you, Alen.

      I can contribute a track if neccesary. http//www.speedyshare.com/961907605.html

      Peace be with you.

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        AlFajr
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        Peace Alen,
        Your right. God Willing I can contribute some money and effort if we have any solid plans. But God says

        2195 And spend in the cause of God, but do not throw your resources to disaster. And do kindness, for God loves those who do kindness.

        So we must make sure it is a sensible idea, and God Willing after we see that it is a true possibility. The believers can contribute to the cause of God.

        So any ideas?

        Al

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          AlFajr
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          In the name of God, most merciful, most compassionate.
          Peace be with you, Alen.

          I can contribute a track if neccesary. http//www.speedyshare.com/961907605.html

          Peace be with you.

          Nice track. Did you make it?

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            Munshi
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            Nice Idea but in our community we have our own problems sarting with Salaat.As we both believe in quran alone , I dont perform salaat as I cannot find any details pertaining to it unless i use some outside source.Then there are those who also believe in quran alone and perform salaat 5 times a day.So we have our own conflicts which we first need to solve among our self

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              unknownuser
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              Nice Idea but in our community we have our own problems sarting with Salaat.As we both believe in quran alone , I dont perform salaat as I cannot find any details pertaining to it unless i use some outside source.Then there are those who also believe in quran alone and perform salaat 5 times a day.So we have our own conflicts which we first need to solve among our self

              Please stop making accounts and using them for subterfuge. Don't you have something better to do?

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                UncleCasual
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                In the name of God, most merciful, most compassionate.
                Peace be with you.

                Nice track. Did you make it?

                Alhamdulillah, indeed, it's one of mine.
                Peace be with you.

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                  i_believe
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                  Peace everyone,

                  I've had this 'big idea'....for a long time....I think God is guiding me to it and perhaps a major purpose for why I was put here, but it is based on the 19 miracle and I'm not sure how well it will be received here. I feel with all my heart it may get the US media and eventually the whole world to take a good hard look at the Quran, however, I don't want to start uproars and arguments. If there are people interested to hear it, I will post it in detail which is sorta long, but like I said...it's a BIG Idea.

                  Bob

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                    Alen
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                    Nice Idea but in our community we have our own problems sarting with Salaat.As we both believe in quran alone , I dont perform salaat as I cannot find any details pertaining to it unless i use some outside source.Then there are those who also believe in quran alone and perform salaat 5 times a day.So we have our own conflicts which we first need to solve among our self

                    Peace,
                    Respectfully.

                    Okay, i understand this might seem as a problem.
                    Let's say we first build our own community. The main idea is to build a mosque where we will be able to not only worship God alone, according to The Quran but we will also have a place where we will talk about Islam, Quran and yes, prayers also. We will pray in the mosque because that is why the mosque is built but we will also sit down as friends, as brothers and sisters and if there is a problem, we will talk about it using our free minds and not AK-47 like some people.

                    I believe that two people know more then one and that three people know more then two and so on and so on, right? If you pray five times a day, it's important that you pray and i think it's better that you pray all day at the mosque, rather then that you are outside dealing with drugs, killing or selling booze and tobacco, correct?

                    Peace.

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                      Layth
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                      Salam UncleCasual,

                      Just a small observation

                      Best not to begin your posts/speech with In the name of God.. unless you are using it to quote a verse.

                      None of us (normal folk) can speak in God`s name.

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                        Munshi
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                        Hi OPF

                        Next time please show some respect and tolerance, i did not disrespected any one.Every one on this forum would agree that what i said is a fact, so face it.

                        As for me it does not matter whether a chiristian , a hindu or a jew come and pray inside my mosque or a sunni perform his 5 times salaat as GOD's message is far above any ritual any one performs.If for once we could understand the true meaning of aqimus salaat wa atuz zakaat, we would have a completely different approach.

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                          UncleCasual
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                          In the name of God, most merciful, most compassionate.
                          Peace be with you.

                          I'm sorry Layth, I believe this to be correct. Is this going to be an issue for you, or any moderator at free-minds?

                          Peace be with you.

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                            unknownuser
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                            Hi OPF

                            Next time please show some respect and tolerance, i did not disrespected any one.Every one on this forum would agree that what i said is a fact, so face it.

                            As for me it does not matter whether a chiristian , a hindu or a jew come and pray inside my mosque or a sunni perform his 5 times salaat as GOD's message is far above any ritual any one performs.If for once we could understand the true meaning of aqimus salaat wa atuz zakaat, we would have a completely different approach.

                            Yes, it is a fact that you are trying to fit a square peg (your preconception of salat) into a circular hole (the quran). Perhaps if you understood the rather clear meaning of say, 6114 we could progress.

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                              AlFajr
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                              Peace all,
                              OPF and Munshi, I think theres been a misunderstanding. Look at what Munshi has said

                              "GOD's message is far above any ritual any one performs"

                              That is not something leoXYZ would say.

                              Or maybe i am the one who is misunderstanding what this argument is about.

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                                humandesign
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                                Yes - I beleive - please go ahead with your ideas. sun

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                                  agentxxx
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                                  As for me it does not matter whether a chiristian , a hindu or a jew come and pray inside my mosque or a sunni perform his 5 times salaat as GOD's message is far above any ritual any one performs.

                                  doesn't matter for me either

                                  peace

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                                    Layth
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                                    Peace UC,

                                    Nothing to do with mods or the forum, just a brotherly observation I wanted to point out.

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