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    i_believe
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    Welcome Sister,

    May God bless you and keep you on the straight path.

    I really like the point that is made in the Nov. 2005 edition of Submitters Perspective. It is mathematically impossible for Bukhari to have collected 600,000 hadiths. Below is an excerpt from the article.

    "How reliable was Bukhari? How did he manage to pick the ?genuine? hadiths from his collection of over 600,000 hadiths? Is it possible to achieve this overwhelming task physically in one?s lifetime? It is reported that Bukhari lived 62 years. Had he spent a mere hour per hadith for compilation, checking the authenticity, and for recording it, he would require 600,000 hours total. This translates into more than 68 years! Assuming that he started collecting hadith at birth; if he did not sleep, did not eat, did not do anything else but work, he still would not manage to complete his work before he died. Therefore it certainly defies logic, especially considering the reported instances where he supposedly traveled to places that sometimes took days, or weeks to check the authenticity of a given hadith."

    Just the mathematics alone proves that the ridiculousness of the claim and exposes hadith as....well.....BS.

    May God Bless All the Believers.

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      Haneen
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      Salam Aleikum dear sister Leyla!
      Welcome to forum! welcome welcome
      This is exactly how i was feeling,sunni teachings is like to live in darkness.
      I thank God so much to show to me and for you and for lots of people right path,to live in the light.

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        Tay
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        Peace and welcome home sister Leyla.

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          TheNabi
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          Peace

          a non-that-much-practicing muslim family

          rotfl and welcome.

          Joe

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            unknownuser
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            My goodness, thanks to God that there are similar peoples. I grew up in a non-that-much-practicing muslim family and embraced Islam fully at the beginning of last year; first I read Karen Armstrong's biography of the prophet and then the Quran; it touched me so much I embraced Islam completely. As soon as I began to become involved with the mosques crazy things started happening people were bustling to get to the front because "there is more reward" and people were growing beards because "there is more reward" I read and read the Quran again and again and I could find nothing in there then the word "hadith" came into my life - and it felt like superstition put this foot here, put that hand there, say this and that three times and four times - what?! The love and light that had filled my heart was fast becoming darkness, and I felt a great weight come over me, and a great sadness - my prayers were not being accepted by my Lord? Really? I fell to groups to find like minded people - and everyone had what can only be described as superstitions a lot of rituals and all justified by hadith - people know their hadith better than they knew their Quran. When I asked about the origins of the hadith no one really knew After reading Quran many times over; I felt a strong desire to reject hadith. I prayed and prayed and prayed, and today I found this site. Thank God. And thank you - I feel sane again. If anyone is in the London area - please get in touch.

            aaah, one more kaafir......"congratulations"...... estaghfirullah!

            welcome

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              unknownuser
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              aaah, one more kaafir......"congratulations"...... estaghfirullah!

              welcome

              Yeah, thats something u must get used to leyla P Because according to many sunnies and shia muslims those who don't follow hadiths are kafirs. This is what the quran says about those who mock others for their belief

              Quran 2212
              This worldly life has been made pleasing to the disbelievers, and they mock those who believe. And those who are righteous will be above them on the Day of Resurrection; God provides for whoever He wishes without a price.

              Below is some interesting verses to reflect upon

              Followers of hadith following every old tradition

              Quran 543 And they disbelieved, and followed their desires, and every old tradition.

              Sunni and shia muslims should come to read the Quran, come to what God has sent down

              5104 And if they are told "Come to what God has sent down, and to the messenger;" they say "We are content with what we found our fathers doing." What if their fathers did not know anything nor were guided?

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                mouse
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                dear sis leyla.. salam

                welcome.. i loved ur post, i could relate to it so much. Im in Manchester . My email address is [email protected]. plz feel free to email i'd love to hear from you.. luv n peace

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                  ayani
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                  alhamdulillah, sister! welcome! peace

                  i am very glad that you feel again the light and peace of Islam. you are right, so much of hadith does feel like dark superstition, and it makes me sad, too. especially to see it taught rigidly to children.

                  welcome to free-minds, and may God bless you and keep you well, and in good iman.

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                    agentxxx
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                    Peace Leyla,

                    http//i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/nabpeace/comments/18q.gif to the forum.

                    peace

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                      nimnimak_11
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                      peace Sister Leyla

                      Thank you for the intorduction and welcome welcome to the forum.

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                        unknownuser
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                        Shalom handshake sister Leyla I have a question
                        do you believe that Rashad was a messenger ?
                        take care
                        Shalom

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                          Meek
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                          As'Salam Alaykum, Sis... I am not from the London area, but I cerainly can identify with your feelings. I am also new to Islam, although I now realize that I have ALWAYS been a Muslim... only misled by men (ie. family, friends, community, etc.)

                          I lived as a Christian for several years... feeling quite out of place there too! I could never find it within myself to associate anyone or anything on the same level as God! I could never accept anyone's ideas or explanations on pairing anyone or anything with, along side, along with... even in the same sentence as GOD! Now I fully understand why! Allahu Akbar!!!!

                          Once I did find myself digging deeper into Islam and the Qur'an... I found myself again asking questions about why NOW do I find the Muslims paying special attention to Mohammad (pbuh) as the Christians did Jesus (pbuh). I felt it was exactly the same act! And I could not for the life of me understand why it was so necessary to recite the Shahada to be considered a Muslim at all. Although, in my heart and mind... I felt that only God (ALLAH) could judge whether or not I was indeed a Muslim. I felt all I needed to do was what the Qur'an said that I must do... SUBMIT to ALLAH!

                          Now that I am coming along further in the Qur'an and understanding what I am reading (ALLAH has made it so clear!), I have no doubt that I am on the right Path... the Straight Path... and it is such a relief to know that there indeed are others out there like myself!

                          Allahu Akbar!!!!

                          Peace and blessings, Sis!

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                            Mr_Deen
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                            I know what you are saying.

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