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Are You a True Moslem

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    belH
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    Salam Belal,

    So where is the word "Muhammad" in the ayat above?
    For those who don't know, the ayat above are from Surah (chapter) # 33 Al-Ahzab - TheConfederates.

    In verse 59, for example, God is speaking to the prophet who is recieving the verses of Chapter 33

    O prophet! tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (59)

    Peace,
    Respectfully.

    Am i a Muslim?
    Yes.

    I believe and know that a TRue and Real MUslim must believe that there is no god but God (31,
    A True and a Real Muslim must pray according to the Quran, before the sunrise, after sunset and during night hours. I can't remember the chapters and verses right now, so bear with me.
    Also, a Submitter must fast during the month of Ramadan, not consume food or beverages or have sex during day.
    Also, pay the charity, to the parents, relatives, poor, orphans, traveller, what is beyond your needs and on the day of harvest.
    Also, attend the Hajj.
    Also, be good to parents, speak good to people, do good deeds of rightousness, forgive and rely on God all the time and seek help in prayer and patience.
    Also, the ten commandments are still on.

    Peace.

    Salam
    How do you pray? Do you pray the same way I showed in my posting or not?
    Peace

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      TAJ
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      Salam Belal,

      In verse 59, for example, God is speaking to the prophet who is recieving the verses of Chapter 33

      O prophet! tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (59)

      So <!Again!> Where is the word "Muhammad" in the ayah ?

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        belH
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        Salam Belal,

        So <!Again!> Where is the word "Muhammad" in the ayah ?

        Salam Belal,

        So <!Again!> Where is the word "Muhammad" in the ayah ?

        Peace
        Please look deeper, free your minde, reason, and then you will come to a conclusion.
        Salam

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          unknownuser
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          Peace
          Please look deeper, free your minde, reason, and then you will come to a conclusion.
          Salam

          Salam,

          With all due respect, you can stare at that verse all day and you still won't find the word Muhammad there.

          In fact, in that whole chapter the only time muhammad is mentioned is in 3340. And whether or not that is a proper name of a person or a type of person is debatable.
          The Quran has no problem speaking of the prophets by name so if Muhammad as the prophet was specifically meant in 3359 I believe his name would be there.
          Salam,
          Arnab

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            belH
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            Salam,

            With all due respect, you can stare at that verse all day and you still won't find the word Muhammad there.

            In fact, in that whole chapter the only time muhammad is mentioned is in 3340. And whether or not that is a proper name of a person or a type of person is debatable.
            The Quran has no problem speaking of the prophets by name so if Muhammad as the prophet was specifically meant in 3359 I believe his name would be there.
            Salam,
            Arnab

            Peace
            When God say, "O prophet! tell", God is speaking to a living prophet at the time of revealing such a verse; and I believe that the only living prophet at that time was Mohamed (PBUH). but any way, I say (PBUH) to all prophets.
            peace

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              unknownuser
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              Salam Belalhammad,

              I understand your point of view. And I agree with the fact that since Muhammad was a messenger of God 3359 was directed toward him, but not exclusively.
              I am now of the belief that since the Quran is for all time and since anyone who fits the characteristics of a rasul or nabi is a rasul or a nabi today.
              Then the verse is directed towards the rasul's and nabi's of today as well.

              Salam,
              Arnab

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                belH
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                Salam Belalhammad,

                I understand your point of view. And I agree with the fact that since Muhammad was a messenger of God 3359 was directed toward him, but not exclusively.
                I am now of the belief that since the Quran is for all time and since anyone who fits the characteristics of a rasul or nabi is a rasul or a nabi today.
                Then the verse is directed towards the rasul's and nabi's of today as well.

                Salam,
                Arnab

                Peace
                Prophet Mohamed was the last Nabi, Prophet; In other words, God will not send any more books. As far as Rasul, I do not know if that is the case or not, simply because God did not say so in the Quran. I can only testify of what is in the Quran.

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                Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets and Allah has full knowledge of all things (33-40).

                Peace peace

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                  unknownuser
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                  Salam,

                  The meaning of this verse has been much debated.

                  Salam,
                  Arnab

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                    belH
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                    Salam,

                    The meaning of this verse has been much debated.

                    Salam,
                    Arnab

                    Salam
                    Can you tel me were was debated?
                    Thanks

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                      Salam Belalhammad,

                      It has been debated here on this site (and perhaps others).

                      Salam,
                      Arnab

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