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I see you are new and have not read first post of this topic. I am just helping you to know the truth and fact. Is up to you which path you choose.very few Jewish convert to Islam
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Do you mean Islam in 319 or you mean Sunnis or Shai?As for praying in mosque , I can't see any problem to pray in any mosque ,
Which masque?
Sunnis, ShIa and their subsects?just follow the Imam .
Which Imam? Where in Quran find such verse follow Imam.?
Nothing wrong , we all pray to Allah ,
Allah , Mohmammed and if you are Shia , prophet daughter and another 12 imams waiting for 12th !!!!
even we have different view of things .
We cur heads of each other for such different views and we are naive tools in hand of clergies connected to different political power and war mongers due to such different views.Congregation prayer is good , don't limit yourself to certain rules . Happy to have you here. I'm new also to this site . First day for me.
Please read all tread before responding.
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Which Imam? Where in Quran find such verse follow Imam.?What about Friday prayer , it's not written in the Quran to be in the mosque and in congregation ?!!
We cur heads of each other for such different views and we are naive tools in hand of clergies connected to different political power and war mongers due to such different views.
Well , we will always differ , even in your same sect of Quran alone you also differ .
And if thy Lord had willed, He verily would have made mankind one nation, yet they cease not differing,( 11-11 -
Peace All,
Thanks Brother Bahman for your points. I found it quite interesting how this thread I started turned out some very interesting conversations.
I don't need and Imam....I only need God and Quran. I can't go to a masjid where they invoke Muhammad in their prayers and preach hadith. God commands us NOT to pray in such a masjid.
There are those who abuse the masjid by practicing idol worship, dividing the believers, and providing comfort to those who oppose GOD and His messenger. They solemnly swear "Our intentions are honorable!" GOD bears witness that they are liars.
You shall never pray in such a masjid. A masjid that is established on the basis of righteousness from the first day is more worthy of your praying therein. In it, there are people who love to be purified. GOD loves those who purify themselves.I have downloaded all of RK's khutba's and was thinking I would take a break from work and view one each Friday. That is at least something. God willing, maybe one day I will meet more people like myself and we can get together on Friday's for Jumah.
As much as I wish there was a community of believers like myself where I live, I still feel blessed that I know the truth and that God is with me. I am also grateful for this site which has put me in touch with some wonderful people and I've made some great friends.
Peace and Blessings.
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Peace Sarah
7430 Over it is nineteen and thank you for your patinece.
You may like tose this file.
http//y19.net/19cycle.html
I wish good luck in our search and study.
Take care and see you again )
God Bless.
BahmanPeace
7430 is refering to the number of Angels who are Garding "SuKer", and not to a Code that God made to protect the Quran. Your Code made you delete the Last Verses of Chapter 9; by doing so you are disblieveing the purity of the Quran that God promised to protect. Please read my view regarding Code 19 at
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.30
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7430 is refering to the number of Angels who are Garding "SuKer", and not to a Code that God made to protect the Quran. Your Code made you delete the Last Verses of Chapter 9; by doing so you are disblieveing the purity of the Quran that God promised to protect. Please read my view regarding Code 19 at
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.30
PeacePeace. )
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Peace All,
Thanks Brother Bahman for your points. I found it quite interesting how this thread I started turned out some very interesting conversations.
I don't need and Imam....I only need God and Quran. I can't go to a masjid where they invoke Muhammad in their prayers and preach hadith. God commands us NOT to pray in such a masjid.
I have downloaded all of RK's khutba's and was thinking I would take a break from work and view one each Friday. That is at least something. God willing, maybe one day I will meet more people like myself and we can get together on Friday's for Jumah.As much as I wish there was a community of believers like myself where I live, I still feel blessed that I know the truth and that God is with me. I am also grateful for this site which has put me in touch with some wonderful people and I've made some great friends.
Peace and Blessings.Peace dear brother Bob.
Your presence in thus forum and your cause for believing in God Alone Quran Alome specially to be an Ex Jew is sign of God and support for those that their hear beats only for God Alone and Quran Alone based on Solid Proof.
Please check your works here and let me know if is ok. ) ?
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Peace
Did you understand this? brickwall
PeaceYes, I do; but Be aware of God testing; do not think that because the last two verses of chapter 9 are not fitting with the Code, you should delete them. It is a test for you, as was for Rashad Kalifa.
The following is a quote from Hati (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.15) regarding my post in Code 19' please read it
Sorry to bother you.
Thanks for your enlightening posts.You are right 19 Angels guarding Saker.
It's reallyQuote
a trial for unbelieversMy point here is even with Code 19 you can prove that 9128, 9129 is part of the Quran.
But its a trial to delve into it because God says "and none can know the forces of the Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind."God bless you.
Hati
Please note that he says that code 19 proves that 9-128, 129 are part from the Quran.
And even if it does not prove it, God words is enough proof for you, when he said he will guard the Quran.
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Yes, I do; but Be aware of God testing; do not think that because the last two verses of chapter 9 are not fitting with the Code, you should delete them. It is a test for you, as was for Rashad Kalifa.
The following is a quote from Hati (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.15) regarding my post in Code 19' please read it
Sorry to bother you.
Thanks for your enlightening posts.You are right 19 Angels guarding Saker.
It's reallyQuote
a trial for unbelieversMy point here is even with Code 19 you can prove that 9128, 9129 is part of the Quran.
But its a trial to delve into it because God says "and none can know the forces of the Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind."God bless you.
Hati
Peace.
Please note that he says that code 19 proves that 9-128, 129 are part from the Quran.
And even if it does not prove it, God words is enough proof for you, when he said he will guard the Quran.
PeacePeace.
The only thing in this earthly glob infallible is God words in PURIFIED QUran based on 7430.
You ignored my reply when Hati mixed Human name GV of MOhammed which was human and fallible like all other prophets and messnger to God words Infallible and result is corrupted and work of Satan to fool those that can not understand Miracle and ignore it.
There is 46 cases with letters ,numbers , gv for those that know Arabic (Follower of Sunnah) and 16 cases pure numerical pattern understandable worl wide, No GV NO HUman Name JUst 114 chapters of Quran Numerical Properties .
IS not that enough for YOU.??????
Are you waitting GOd visit you Personaly?
How your mind is locked with false learning.?
Wake Up tommorow is alte.
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Peace.
The only thing in this earthly glob infallible is God words in PURIFIED QUran based on 7430.
You ignored my reply when Hati mixed Human name GV of MOhammed which was human and fallible like all other prophets and messnger to God words Infallible and result is corrupted and work of Satan to fool those that can not understand Miracle and ignore it.
There is 46 cases with letters ,numbers , gv for those that know Arabic (Follower of Sunnah) and 16 cases pure numerical pattern understandable worl wide, No GV NO HUman Name JUst 114 chapters of Quran Numerical Properties .
IS not that enough for YOU.??????
Are you waitting GOd visit you Personaly?
How your mind is locked with false learning.?
Wake Up tommorow is alte.
Peace.I told you before, Guarding and protecting the Quran is God's Job; Only him! no angel, nor prophet, nor Messenger, nor you, nor Rashad Kalifa were asked by God to help him. And if you insist to do a Job that is not yours, you will go astray; I told you that before, and now; you will go astray, and you will make others go astray!!!
When I stand in front of God in the Judgment Day, I will till him that " I did not Listen to Bahman nor Rashad Kalifa because you (God) told me that you will guard the Quran"
Simple as that.
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I told you before, Guarding and protecting the Quran is God's Job; Only him! no angel, nor prophet, nor Messenger, nor you, nor Rashad Kalifa were asked by God to help him. And if you insist to do a Job that is not yours, you will go astray; I told you that before, and now; you will go astray, and you will make others go astray!!!
When I stand in front of God in the Judgment Day, I will till him that " I did not Listen to Bahman nor Rashad Kalifa because you (God) told me that you will guard the Quran"
Simple as that.
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It is God's design Rashad discovered. Can you understand?
57=19x3
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That was my answer
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16725.30
No one can doubt the Quran purity, including Rashad Kalifa.
Peace
You mean these are coincidence?
That is not finding of Rashad. Is discovery of Dear brother A.Arik
Reconsider your responses as you are sinking slowly deeper in your own mud. Leave Hadith totally and submit to God Alone.
This is end of my discussion with you as you are parroting same thing and not accepting any fact and truth when you ignore to read the files carefully and just insisting in your one way opinion.
I ask for forgivness from God Alone if iam have done anything wrong on this screen to mislead anybody. When you can produce one like those12000 digits + pattern then respond otherway you are wasting your time and our time too.
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Hello All,
I am new to this site. I found it during a google search looking for forums to meet like minded people. God willing I will make some friends here. However, in my short time going through a number of the posts I am not certain how many of you will agree with me.
I am probably one of a very very small select few. I?ve always believed in God. However, my father is racist and very dogmatic about his Judaism. Hence I never really connected with it as I felt if there is a God, why should one religion and its people be better than another as he claims? As soon as I left home to be on my own I became a non practicing Jew.
About 25 years ago while attending college in upstate NY, I was walking with my professor to his car and noticed his vanity license plate. ?ON IT 19? I asked what the meaning of this was and that was my introduction to God?s miracle. It was easy to comprehend. The odds of so many numbers, many of them hundreds or several thousand digits long (numbers which we have no name for) all divisible by 19. This blew my mind. To me, there is 0 chance that this could be coincidence. This book , indeed had to come from God. I believe it is God?s word down to the last letter. This also means that I believe verses 128 and 129 of Sura 9 are false verses. I know a lot of you many not agree with me. This also means I do not invoke Muhammad in my Salat prayers.
Even though I knew of this awesome miracle it was not until 12 years later that I actually came upon some hard times and turned to God and the Quran for support. It was the first time that read it. It moved me to tears. It made so much sense. However, I was not a true a submitter. I did not do my prayers with regularity. I still drank alcohol socially, as well as other behaviors that God would not be pleased with. This went on for 13 years.
Recently I have come across some hardships again and have turned to God and the Quran again for support. I have embraced Islam fully and am conducting myself in the best possible manner with God?s guidance. I am probably the only Submitter in my home state of Maine. I cannot go to any of the Mosque?s here and pray as they are not Submitting Mosques. I?m also probably one of very few people raised Jewish who converted to the true Islam. I feel very blessed by this and thank God for guiding me in the right path.
Feel to free to contact me if you would like.
Peace to all of you.
Bob
Peace dear Bob Ray.
it wasfew hours ago when i responded to another truth seeker here
then i found some missing link and took few hours update all work.
I have not heard long time from you and not sure if you read this post.
I was updating these files of your works which took me few hours and visited this page after 3 years then i see another support sign in your message date Dec `14 Here is 10 after 10 pm and in 2 hours my time is Dec.14 after 3 years.
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https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=RHCzhXoq6Wc
Thank you for your reply David. No...I am not focusing on the numbers. I merely believe it as proof that the Quran is indeed authored by God. The only copy I have been reading is Dr. Khalifa's translation. It has been enough for me. If God wills that I read other translations, I will be open to that. I look forward to having conversations with other Submitters, God willing.
Peace,
Bob
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Hi Bob
Interesting Youtube video by another Jewish convert
https//www.youtube.com/user/IsraeliteMosque
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Do we really need this 19 theory to prove the authenticity of Quran and to put trust on Quran?
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Spiritual wellbeing upon you,
No. We do not. But it may be an interesting observation.
Its strong point in my eyes is what it speaks of and that it beneath the more than thousand years of corrupting interpretation actually makes good sense.
Be of one with God