THE Kaaba a keeper of Gods

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The Kaaba
A Keeper of Gods

Islamic lore claims that the Kaaba (a box shaped object) was built for the first time by Adam, Than rebuilt by Noah and his family after the flood, and again rebuilt by Abraham after a trek across one of the most if not the deadliest desert in the world with his wife and small child. But there is no way to prove that Noah or Abraham actually had anything to do with the Kaaba much less the pre-flood Adam.
However we do know from recorded history and both old and new archeological finds that the Kaaba and the city of Mecca were a place of pagan worship where there were about 360 idols that were housed inside the Kaaba long before even Jesus was born. Recorded History tells us that a tribe of people whose name was the Jats came from India and settled in several countries now known as Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, and also Saudi Arabia in and around the city of Medina as well as other parts of Arab land. They brought with them a religion known as Vedism or Vedic Brahmanism which was the historical predecessor of Hinduism. They worshiped the elements like fire, rivers, and heroic gods such as Indra who is the King of the gods in the Rig Veda, the early collection of Hindu hymns. They were also astronomers who worshiped the nine known planets of the day and the consolations
King Vikramaditya was a legendary monarch who ruled Ujjain in India who was considered to be a just and benevolent king whose wisdom, valor and magnanimity was well known. Scholars believe that King Vikramaditya conquered Arabia. He lived during that first century and his preachers were very successful in spreading the Vedic Hindu sacred scriptures in Arabia, converting Arabs to Vedic Hinduism and the religions way of life.
The word ?Kaaba, or Kabah, or Caaba? came from the Tamil language which originated sometime around 1700 B.C. In Tamil Nadu there is a temple for the Hindu god Shiva named Kabaalishwaran and the word ?Kabaali" refers to Lord Shiva.
Proofs of these facts are available in what is called the ?Sayar-ul-Okul?. It is one among several volumes of ancient west Asian literature. The Turkish ruler Sultan Salim ordered an anthology to be compiled of ancient Arabic poetry from an earlier work in 1742 A.D. The pages of this volume are made of a kind of silk. According to Arab legend there was a plaque or dish that was hung in the Kaaba with an inscription on it about King Vikramaditya. On page 315 of the Sayar-ul-Okul volume which is in the treasured Makhtab-e-Sulania library in Istanbul Turkey and in the English language here is what the inscription says.

?Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during King Vikram?s reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf, we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of favor of the noble King Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us-foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognizant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at King Vikramaditya?s behest?

So by this evidence of recorded history we have proof that King Vikramaditya conquered, lived, ruled in Arabia and educated the people of Arabia in the Vedic religion that was based on the Vedac, which are the Hindu sacred scriptures.
Among the many idols that were housed in the Kaaba were al-Lat, al-Uzza, Allah and Manat who are all mentioned in the Quran in chapter 53 and were goddesses.
The name ?Allah? was not at all revealed to Mohammed by the angel Gabriel because we know from recorded history that the name ?Allah? was used to speak of ?The God? in Arabia in pre-Islamic times. The Muslim word ?Kaaba? is used to speak of the ?House of God? and the pagan god Hubal was considered to be the chief god of all of the gods that were housed in the Kaaba. But he wasn?t thought to be the only god. The pre-Islamic Arabs believed that Allah which was the same God as Hubal which was a Moon god. They also believed that Hubal had associates or companion gods as well as sons and daughters and the three goddesses mentioned above were the daughters of Allah/Hubal. This pre-Islamic ?Allah? was considered to be the provider for the people, the most powerful of all of the gods and the god every Meccan prayed to in times of trouble. This belief in Allah/Hubal was practiced throughout southern Syria and northern Arabia. He was worshiped as a moon god and as another bit of proof Muhammed?s own father?s name had the word ?Allah? in it ?Abd- Allah or Abdallah or Abdullah? which means ?slave or worshiper of God?. Even the Quran verifies that the pagans believed in one god that was higher than the rest. Surah 2961 If indeed you ask them who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law), they will certainly reply, "Allah". How are they then deluded away (from the truth)? (Translated by Yusuf Ali)
The fact of the matter is that even though Muhammed rejected all other gods except the one Allah, Muhammed in an effort to gain more converts compromised his integrity by allowing pagan ritual and practices to continue in the Islamic religion. This is where the crescent moon comes from on the Islamic Flag but that is not the end of it. The hajj for example was a pagan practiced when hundreds or thousands of pagans would come to Mecca on a certain day to worship the deity or god of choice so the Hajj or the annual pilgrimage to Mecca was nothing new to the pre-Islamic Meccans. The ritual of circulating around the Kaaba is yet another ritual that is barrowed from Hinduism and the black stone is no exception. Again it is the Islamic belief that Adam first had the stone on his alter which was lost in the flood, after that it was Abraham who found the black stone and ordered his son Ishmael to build a new temple in which to house the sacred stone which is supposed to be in the Kaaba in Mecca. But again it is virtually impossible to prove this chain of events.
Islamic tradition also believes that in 602 Muhammed played a key part in the rebuilding of the Kaaba. The black stone needed to be temporarily removed from the Kaaba while the new construction was done and a quarrel erupted between the clans in Mecca as to which clan should have the right to re-set the stone back into its place. Muhammed suggested that the clan elders would raise the stone in a cloak and then Muhammed would with his own hands set the stone into its final resting place and there is some ancient art that depicts that event.

This art depicts a time when the Kaaba was still a polytheistic shrine before the founding of Islam. So we know that Muhammed was at one time a pagan and the stone is still just as much of a pagan symbol today as it was in pre-Islamic days.
It is also an Islamic belief that the black stone was a gift from God to Adam and Eve that fell from the sky which later became a symbol of God?s covenant with Abraham and his son Ismail. Muslims also believe that the stone was at one time a white stone but turned black by absorbing sins and serves as a symbol of man?s degradation and his need for God?s forgiveness. Also according to Islamic legend a cousin of Muhammed by the name of Ibn? Abbas heard Muhammed say,
?By Allah, Allah will bring it forth on the day of resurrection, and it will have two eyes with which it will see and a tongue with which it will speak, and it will testify in favor of those who touched it in sincerity?.
Just think about it. All of those millions upon millions of Muslims that have kissed or touched a cold, hard, and very much lifeless lump a stone, who believe that this piece of heartless black stone is somehow going to magically come to life with a mouth, a tongue and a set of eyeballs in order to serve as an intercessor on behalf of devout and pious Muslims just because they touched, pointed to or kissed the stone. As if to say there is a need to testify on behalf of all of these millions of Muslims because Allah doesn?t know or will not already know the condition of their hearts on the day of resurrection????? In the Quran Allah is all knowing, all seeing and knower of both the visible and the invisible. So why would all of those millions of pious Muslims need a piece of lifeless black stone to serve as an intercessor who would speak to Allah on their behalf just as Abraham, Moses, and Jesus are supposed to do? And if the black stone will not be speaking to Allah on their behalf then what or who will the stone be speaking to?
For Christians Jesus is their intercessor while they are living but not after their death because Jehovah is all knowing and on the day of resurrection He will have already known what the condition of the hearts were of all of the dead both of Christians and non-Christians on the day that they died. Another Islamic legend says that when the second Caliph (Umar ibn al-Khattab) came to kiss the stone, he said in front of all in attendance ?No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither harm anyone nor benefit anyone. Had I not seen Allah?s Messenger kissing you, I would not have kissed you? this statement was narrated by 'Abis bin Rabia and is a Hadith from the Sahih Bukhari, Book 26 Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667.
By his statement Umar must have felt dumb or embarrassed because he was kissing a piece of lifeless stone but it is the ultimate goal of every Muslim man to emulate Mohammed in their life style as much as it is possible for them to do, and so the kissing of the stone began simply because someone saw Muhammed kissing a lifeless, heartless, brainless piece of stone.
Do the Muslims worship the black stone? No they do not but like the Roman church in about 312 A.D. Muhammed allowed pagan ritual to continue to be practiced because the pagans would not listen to him otherwise and just as I tell Christians who practice non-biblical pagan ritual on pagan holy days like Christmas and Easter, I say to the Muslims who practice pagan ritual on pagan holydays. ?One can color a pagan ritual or a holy day any which way they want, and it is still paganism?.

Torah and the Gospel
Islamic Beliefs & Quranic Statements
The Quran is considered to be the most holy book of Islam and it is the book we all see being held up at almost any event involving Muslims on the evening news and other programs. It is the duty of every Muslim to memorize the Quran and they spend much time reading, reciting in Arabic, and memorizing the Quran. We know from what is written in the Quran itself that the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus are held in high esteem by Allah. However there are many misunderstandings on both sides of the fence. This well be my attempt to take a deep look at the Quran and the Bible compared. I want to stick only with the Quran in this process but I have now come to understand that much of what Muslims believe is recorded in the several other volumes of books called the Hadith. So I am forced to quote from some of these other books but very little.
First let us now take a look at what Allah says about the integrity of other God given books.

Surah 2136 Say you ?We {Muslims} believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham. Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to {all} prophets from their Lord We make no difference between any of them, and unto him we have surrendered (Translation by Yusuf Ali)
Surah 2136 Say {O Muslims} ?We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to him we have surrendered.? (Translation by Pickthall)
As we can see by this one verse that is translated two different ways, Allah says that his followers do indeed believe in the Old Testament and the Gospel of Jesus. While we know that the Muslims claim that they only believe in the first five books given to Moses by God, this verse says that Muslims are supposed to believe in that which has been revealed or the revelation that was given also to all of the prophets which includes the Gospel of Jesus. And since the Quran also says that Muhammed was the last prophet then this verse is speaking to us about all of the prophets between Abraham and Jesus.
Surah 2285 ?The Messenger {Muhammed} believes in that which has been revealed to him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believes in Allah and his angels and his scriptures and his messengers ? We make no distinction between any of his messengers ? and they say We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) your forgiveness our Lord. To you is the journeying.? (Translation by Pickthall)
Surah 2285 The Messenger believes in what was sent down to him from his Lord and the believers; each one believes in God and his angels, and in his books and his messengers; we make no division between any one of his messengers. They say ?We hear, and we obey?. Our Lord, grant us your forgiveness; to you is the homecoming. (Translated by Arberry)
As we can see from these verses, Allah is telling us that Muhammed himself believes in the words and books that have been sent down from Allah not only to Muhammed but also to Abraham, Moses and to Jesus. These same statements are also repeated in Surah 4136 and Surah 2946. So if this verse is a mistake or translated wrong then the mistake was made not once but three times. However one of the beliefs that Muslims hold against the bible is that the bible has been revised over and over to the point of corruption but the Quran has never been revised to that point and even now still says the same things in the same way as it was first written.
But there is a problem with that belief because in the days that the Quran was written neither the old or new testaments had revised like they have been today, so in the light of this fact, why didn?t the Muslims of that day read and study the old and new testaments? Or if Muhammed believed in these books that were sent down from Allah before the Quran then why don?t the followers of Muhammed believe in them?
Surah 4136 Oh you who believe, believe in Allah and his messenger and the book which he has revealed to his messenger and the book which he revealed before. And who ever disbelieves in Allah and his angels and his books and his messengers and the last day, he indeed strays far away (from the way of Allah). (Translated by Maulana Ali) If the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus were already corrupted by the time Allah gave Muhammed these verses to put in the Quran then why didn?t Allah know that they were corrupted? Why did Allah command us to believe in corrupted scriptures? Why did Allah tell us that corrupted scriptures were a guild for all of mankind? Was Allah leading us astray?
Surah 33 It is he who sent down to you (step by step) in truth, the book, confirming what went before it; (the Quran) and he sent down the law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and he sent the criterion (of judgment between right from wrong). (Translated by Yusuf Ali)
Surah 34 Aforetime, for a guidance to mankind; and has revealed the Criterion (of right and wrong). Lo those who disbelieve the revelation of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. Allah is mighty, able to requite (the wrong). (Translated by Pickthall)
In these last two verses the word ?criterion? is speaking of a standard or a set of guide lines that are to be used to determine what is right from what is wrong. So these two verses are telling us that Allah sent down to the Hebrews the criterion which is the Old Testament, and to Jesus the Gospel which is the New Testament and to Muhammed the Quran as a guide for all of mankind so that we might read and study and put into practice in our everyday lives these revelations from Allah which tell us what is right and what is wrong. These revelations tells us how we should live our lives and how we should not live our lives and not only does Allah tell Muhammed and all of mankind that these books were sent down to us to help us live a righteous life but Allah also tells Muhammed in the Quran that if he has any doubts about what is in the Quran, Allah commands Muhammed to go to the Hebrews or the Christians and ask them their advice.
Surah 1094 If you are in doubt as to what we (Allah through the angel Gabriel) have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the book from before you the truth has indeed come to you from your Lord; so be in no wise of those who doubt. (Translated by Yusuf Ali)
Surah 1094 And if you (Mohammed) are in doubt concerning that which we revealed to you, then question those who read the scriptures before you. Verily the truth from your Lord has come to you. So be not you of the waverers. (Translated by Pickthall)
Please take notice here that this verse says ?Then question those who read the scriptures before you? and ?Verily the truth has come to you? Isn?t it amazing according to Allah that the truth which is the Quran, the Torah, and the Gospel of Jesus has come to Muhammed? This verse is actually telling us that the scriptures that were given to Moses and Jesus were read before Mohammed read the scriptures. Does this verse prove that Muhammed could read? Absolutely it does and there is no question about it either because Moses and Jesus did read the scriptures before Muhammed did. We should remember that this Quran is considered to be the holy book of Islam and this verse is the same verse that was written in the same manner as this revelation was spoken into the ears of Muhammed by Allah through the mouth of the angel Gabriel. Muslims who reject the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus are rejecting that which Allah has called the truth. Is this a mistake? Did Gabriel get the words mixed up? Did Mohammed hear the wrong words? Did Allah make a mistake? No, No, No, and again No! If Gabriel got the words mixed up and those words made it into the book (Quran) of Allah then that would make Allah impudent. Because Allah was not able to control what Muhammed wrote or a scribe might have wrote after Muhammed recited those words to the scribe to be written down in the book of Allah nor was Allah aware of the fact that the previous scriptures were corrupted. Or could it be that the Gospel of Jesus and the Old Testament are not corrupted and Allah knew that they were not corrupted?
With these verses quoted from the Quran one would think that the Muslims would be even in this day and time reading and studying from the whole of the Torah/Pentateuch and all of the other books that were written by all of the other prophets which are recorded in the Old Testament and the whole of the Gospel of Jesus is which all of the New Testament. There should be no question about whether or not these scriptures were available to Muhammed or not. Because Allah through the angel Gabriel told Muhammed to ask the people who read or are reading them (the words read and reading are speaking of the present tense) for conformation and advice about what the Quran is telling him and since Muhammed was commanded to ask the Hebrews and the Christians for advise or understanding or conformation of the Quran then all Muslims should be doing the same thing.
The problem in this day and time is that the Muslims because of their beliefs are killing both Jews and Christians as often as they are killing their own and all one needs to do is to watch the news and you will see that the Muslims are killing Muslims and Jews and Christians or anyone considered to be an infidel around the world in all sorts of horrible ways. They are killing those of their own blood and religious beliefs in the name of Allah. And claiming that it is Jihad or holy war so what has happened? What causes men, women and young boys to blow themselves and other men, women, children, babies, the old and the infirm to pieces? For this answer I think that we should take a good hard look at the differences between what the Hebrew Old Testament, the Gospel of Jesus and Quran say about some of the same subjects. I am also going to be using some passages from the Hadith?s not because they are the words of Allah but because they have many of the sayings that those who would commit suicide depend on to justify the killing of innocents in the name of Allah.
Muslims believe that Mohammed was the last of all of the prophets to be sent to all of mankind with a message from God/Allah.
The Islamic Religion believes that Mohammed was the last prophet in a line of prophets that dates back before the flood and the main source of this belief is in the Quran.
Surah 3340 Mohammad was not a father (to) anyone from your men, and but God?s messenger, and the prophets end/conclusion/final, and God was/is with everything knowledgeable. (A Literal Interpretation0
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but the messenger of Allah and the last of the Prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things. (Translated by Shakir)
Mohammad is not the father of any of man among you, he was a messenger of God and the final prophet. God is fully aware of all things. (Translated by Khalifa)
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, he is the messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets. Allah has the knowledge of all things. (Translated by Malik)

This verse in the Quran is the greatest reason Muslims believe that Muhammad was the very last of the prophets sent down to mankind to speak the words of Allah. For this reason Muslims believe that all other prophets and all other revelations from Allah to those previous prophets are trumped or overridden or completed by the revelations (the Quran) given to Muhammad. The words ?Muhammad is not a father to any of your men? is interpreted as meaning that no other prophet will be born after him in the ministry of Prophethood. However Islam believes that the mantle or work of spreading and confirming the word of Allah was handed over to the Caliphs and later to the Imams.
The phrase ?Seal of the Prophet? is used to speak of the sealing up of the sum of all of the communicated revelations from Allah that have been sent down to all of mankind which includes both the old and new testaments thereby rendering them somewhat obsolete. Islam also uses New Testament scripture to testify and to justify the concept that Muhammad was the last of the prophets who were to spread the word of God.
John 1426 ?But the comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all thing to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.?
Islam teaches that only the prophet of Islam could have fulfilled this prophecy and believe that Muhammad was truly sent in his (Allah) name because he bore testimony to his truth. But the Scholars of Islam have failed to examine the scriptures that prove that the Holy Spirit/Comforter did come to us after the death of Jesus but 600 years before Muhammad was born which shows us that Islamic Scholars have interpreted the other book which Allah has given to them wrongly. The problem I see here again is that if Allah didn?t want his followers to read and study the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus then why didn?t Allah tell them not to do so? If Allah considers the Torah and the Gospel of Jesus to be obsolete and no longer a viable or usable group of revelations then why does Allah tell us that the Torah and the Injeel and the Quran are all the same and equal in value to all of mankind.
Surah 2136 ?Say you "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord We make no difference between one and another of them And we bow to Allah (in Islam)." (Translated by Yusuf Ali)
Surah 2285 ?The messenger believeth in that which has been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His Scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Your forgiveness, our Lord, Unto You is the journeying.? (Translated by Pickthall)
Surah 384 ?Say, We believe in God, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters." (Translated by Khalifa)
It looks to me that according to these verses Allah considers all of the revelations/books given to all of these people/prophets mentioned in these above verses to be equally important equally respected and equally valuable in the eyes of Allah.
So why is it that Muslims disrespect Allah by believing that the Scriptures and revelations that were given to Abraham, Moses and Jesus are no longer needed or useless. Why is it that Muslims consider that which is worthy in the eyes of Allah as if it were not a worthy enough to read and study. Wouldn?t that be a slap in the face of Allah to throw down what Allah has given?
As a general practice and a good research habit we should never take any scripture at face value without first finding some scriptural confirmation that tells you that you are in fact interpreting a verse just as God intended for it to be understood.
Book of Acts Ch.21-22
{21} And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
{22} And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
{23} And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
{24} And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
{25} And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
{26} Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
{27} And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
{28} And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
{29} Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
{210}Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
{211} Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
{212} And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What means this?
{213} Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
{214} But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, You men of Judaea, and all that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and listen to my words
{215} For these are not drunken, as you suppose, seeing it is the third hour of the day.
{216} But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
{217} ? whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved]?.
{222} You men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know
The day of Pentecost which is the day spoken of here in these verses is the day when the Comforter came here to every man, woman, and child, who would ask the Comforter to fill their hearts. The Comforter was never commanded by God to come to earth for just one single man. The Comforter is the Holy Spirit of God and it is that Comforter/Holy Spirit that comforts us in any time of trouble, it gives us a peace that surpasses our understanding.
The Comforter did not reprove the world of sin, untruth and injustice because if he had the world would have reproved its self and stopped all of the sin, untruth and injustice. Does God want the whole world to hear the words of his Holy Spirit and turn from that sinful nature that is within all of us? Yes and there is no question about it. But we have the choice to choose whether or not we want to open up our hearts and minds to the things of God or not and being able to choose is in itself a gift from God.
The Comforter does not guide the world into all truth, only those who would submit themselves to God and ask that the Holy Spirit/Comforter come into and change their heart to that same kind of heart that Jesus had.
There is no such a thing written in the Gospel of Jesus about any future book that was to be written or given or to contain the words of God or of humans except that word from God that was given to Jesus and his Apostles from God through the Holy Spirit which today is what we know as the Gospel of Jesus.
The Comforter was already foretelling of things that were to come 600 years before the birth of Muhammad. The Comforter prophesied/foretold of the future through the Apostle?s Paul, John, Peter, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and Jude. Any Muslim who wishes to know just what the Spirit of God has already uttered about our future through the above mentioned Apostles should read and study their books. Then you will receive wisdom from on High.
Islamic Scholars teach that Jesus did not come to change the law that was already given to Moses and that is a true fact. But what is not a true fact is that Islamic scholars also teach that it was foretold to Moses that a Prophet would come to change the law that Moses was given and they use Deuteronomy 1815-19 to re-enforce that concept.
{1815} The Lord your God will raise up unto you a Prophet from the midst of you, of your brethren, like unto me; unto him you shall hearken; (A Jew not an Arab or an Egyptian)
{1816} According to all that you desire of the Lord your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
{1817} And the Lord said unto me, They have well which they have spoken.
{1818} I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto you, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
{1819} And it shall come to pass, whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require of him.
These prophetic scriptures cannot be speaking about both Jesus and Muhammed at the same time even though they both had the same characteristics as is described in these verses. So which one came along first and fulfilled the prophetic scriptures? Jesus did!
There is here another mistake that is made by Islamic Scholars because in verse 15 the words ?The LORD your God will raise up unto you a Prophet from the midst of you, of your brethren, like unto me (as in Moses); unto him you shall listen;?
Moses was a Hebrew and not at all an Arab from Arabia and in the verse when God is telling his people (the Jews) through the mouth of Moses who was a Jew, that he is going to raise up a prophet from among the Jews, God is talking about a prophet that will come from a Jewish bloodline and not an Arab bloodline. If this verse were speaking about Muhammed it would be speaking to Arabs from Arabia but this verse does not speak about Arabs from Arabia. Those were Jews who traveled in the desert for forty years as a result of their disobedience or doubt of God not Arabs and the prophecy was given to a Jew, not an Arab.
In verse 18 we are told once again that a prophet would be raised up from the Israelite people and even adds the words ?like unto you? which is even more of a confirmation that these verses are not talking about an Arab Muhammad as the prophet who should come, but are instead talking about a Jewish prophet and the only prophet of God who was a prophet within the bloodlines of the Israelite people that fit the prophetic discription is Jesus. Not only was Jesus of the bloodline of Moses and the Jews, his blood line can be traced in the Hebrew Old Testament all the way back to Adam but there is no record of the blood line of Muhammed in the Quran.
Another misinterpretation that Islamic Scholars teach is that Jesus did not come to change the laws revealed to Moses by God but that Muhammad was sent as a prophet to change the laws given to Moses by God. This is yet another area of reasoning that Islam applies to the ?Seal of the Prophet?. This reasoning is to say that Muhammad was the last to set down in writing the laws, rights, rituals, regulations, and of a philosophy on how we should live our lives. Hence the laws set forth by the God of Abraham to Moses and to Jesus have now been replaced by the laws set forth or given to Muhammad to set down in writing for all of mankind, Thereby sealing up the sum of all of the laws into those which are now set forth in the Quran. In other words a ?New Set of Laws? has come to us, given to us by the law giver who was Allah through Muhammed. But wouldn?t that be the opposite of what the Allah has already said? Didn?t we just read scriptures from the Quran that tell us that all of the revelations/books given to all of the prophets including Moses and Jesus from Allah are of the same value in the eyes of Allah? This whole idea of the meaning of the seal of the Prophets is the Doctrine of Islamic Scholars but not the doctrine of Allah according to statements made in the Quran.
Matthew 517-18
{517} Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
{518} For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
This is the verse that Islamic Scholars have used to justify the idea that Muhammad was sent to replace the law with another law that transcends all other laws that have been given in the past 6000 years or so to all other prophets and Apostles of God. But once again Islamic Scholars have neglected to perform or to us proper research methods in an effort to keep from making such colossal mistakes like this one.
They have picked and chosen those scriptures which suit their needs rather than reveal the truth as it is written in the words of God. But the answer is right in front of their faces, even within the very scriptures they us to say that because Jesus didn?t replace the laws, that Muhammed did. Verse 17 says it all. The law didn?t need to be changed because they were God given laws. They were perfect laws given to mankind who at the time of the giving of those laws could only comprehend and put into practice the concept of those laws at the time they were given. But God saw that mankind had moved forward enough to fulfill those laws by adding to them thereby making them even more perfect. Here is what I am talking about. In the Old Testament the basic laws had everything to do with the outward action of a sin but when Jesus fulfilled the laws, and the Comforter came the laws of God were written into the hearts of those who would submit and except them. Hence not only did the law have everything to do with the outward action of a sin, the law that was written within the hearts of men had everything to do with the very thought of a sin. Better put, in the Old Testament it was against the laws of God to steal from someone. But when Jesus fulfilled the laws of God not only is it considered a sin to steal from someone it is also considered a sin to even think about stealing from someone. Because just thinking about stealing from someone is now considered a sin in the eyes of God even if you did actually steal anything.
Matthew 521
{521} You have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shall not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment
{522} But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be
in danger of the judgment and whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause, shall be in danger of the judgment but whosoever shall say, You fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
{523} Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has ought against you;
{524} Leave there your gift before the altar, and go your way; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.
{525} Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison.
{526} Verily I say unto you, You shall by no means come out here, till you have paid the uttermost farthing.
{527} You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not commit adultery
{528} But I say unto you, That whosoever looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.
{529} And if your right eye offend you, pluck it out, and cast from you for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not your whole body should be cast into hell.
{530} And if your right hand offend you, cut it off, and cast it from you for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not your whole body should be cast into hell.
{531} It has been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement
{532} But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commit adultery.
{533} Again, you have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, You shall not forswear yourself, but shall perform unto the Lord your oaths
{534} But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God?s throne
{535} Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
{536} Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can?t make one hair white or black.
These verses tell us that the laws that have already been given to them of old time have been fulfilled by Jesus to the point of perfection. Can anyone tell me why such laws as these need to be changed?
If any Muslim who reads these verses disbelieves what they are saying, I do hereby challenge you to see for yourself if these verses are in fact written in the word of God that was given to Jesus, and according to Allah this written word was given to Jesus by Allah. Don?t make assumptions because your life after death depends on the decisions you make or do not make while you are on this earth. Don?t assume that your Imam is divinely correct because he could be led astray by false beliefs just like any other man. There is more written in the Bible that Islamic Scholars claim are speaking of the advent of the last prophet (Muhammed) which are associated with passages in the Quran but there is no need to cover them because I have already shown by using the very same books that Allah has confirmed in the Quran as being divine revelation from Allah who does not distinguish any difference between them and the Quran. They are according to Islam the words of God and they should be taken as the Word of God by all Muslims according to what Allah commanded to be put in the Quran, and the Quran says that all Muslims believe in those words.
One point that Islamic Scholars do not teach their students is this. We are warned against any other Gospel that is preached after the Gospel of Jesus.
Galatians 17-9
{17} Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
{18} But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
{19} As we said before, so say I now again, If any preach any other gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be accursed
The Quran says in Surah 1064 and 634 that there is no changing of the words of Allah which means that the words of Allah that have been given which are in both the Old and New Testaments and the Quran are preserved by Allah and that no man can ever corrupt the words of these divine revelations/books from Allah. There is no place in the Quran where it is said that any of the revelations that have been put to paper have been corrupted in the written word itself. The Quran only speaks of how the context or interpretations of the written word has been corrupted but not the documented words themselves. In other words, the scriptures themselves have never been corrupted but how they are interpreted has been corrupted. However these verses above from the book of Galatians (17-9) tell us that if any man or even an angel comes preaching any other Gospel that we have never heard of or have ever excepted, that man or angel are accursed. So when we are told not to follow any other prophet or Gospel or laws/revelations after the Gospel of Jesus that means that Muhammed was not supposed to except those revelations from the angel Gabriel. These words speak for themselves and there is no corruption here. They are what they are. Who do we believe? What path do we follow? Since the Gospel of Jesus was the last Gospel before Muhammad and Muhammad came after Jesus preaching yet another book of revelations and another Gospel from Allah and claiming to be an Apostle and the last Prophet of Allah???? If we follow the Gospel of Jesus then the Quran should not be followed. If we follow the Quran then the Gospel of Jesus has been made worthless by Islamic Doctrine and Allah would not be preserving that which is worthless. But he says that he is preserving the Gospel of Jesus which means that if Allah considers the Gospel of Jesus to be valuable enough to preserve, then the Gospel of Jesus should be worthy of reading and being studied by all Muslims. Allah knows what the Hebrew book says because he says that the words of the Hebrew words which Moses wrote are Allah?s words and he knows what is written in the Gospel of Jesus. Muhammad knew what is written in the Hebrew book and the Gospel of Jesus because Muhammad learned what was written in those books of old from Jews and Christians. So why shouldn?t all Muslims know what is written in those books of old? Shouldn?t all Muslims want a better understanding of Christianity or Judaism? A better understanding of what the all knowing God, Allah who is full of wisdom gave to other people?
Because I am looking for a better understanding of Islam one of the things I am doing is emailing my questions to Imam?s. Below is a list of all of the websites and Imams at those websites I sent my question to.
www.askimam.co.uk Imam Sheikh Muhammad Ismail Al-Rashid and Imam Hafiz Ahmed Ibrahim Patel
www.irvingmasjid.org Imam Zia-ul-Haq Shaikh
www.masjids.org Imam Faruq A. Muhammad
www.ummah.net/khoei Imam Sayyid Qassim Al-Jalali
www.mosquefoundation.org Imam Jamal Said and Imam Kifah Mustapha
www.goldcoastislam.com Imam Shaykh Amjad Rasheed
www.al-islam.org Al-Islam.org is an effort of the Ahlul Bayt Digital Islamic Library Project. For questions on Islamic beliefs, practices, history, or jurisprudence (fiqh), please refer to the following resources The Office of Al-Sayyid Muhammad Husayn Fadlullah ? Religeous Authority
The office of Al-Sayyid Muhammad Saeed al-Hakeem Religious Scholar
The office of the Supreme Leader Al-Sayyid Ali Khamenei
The office of Al-Shaykh Waheed Khurasani Website not found but the email works.
The office/website of Fazel Lankarani Grand Ayatollah
The office/website of Al-Shaykh Makarem Shirazi Grand Ayatollah
The office/website of Al-Sayyid Ali Sistani Grand Ayatollah
Out of all of these contacts who are listed on these websites which ?Ask the Imam? for the purpose of answering questions about Islam that people ask who are trying to better understand Islam, only one Imam had the fortitude and the integrity to answer my question and he answered my question rather quickly. Below is my question.

Do Muslims study the Hebrew Old Testament and the Gospel of Jesus? If the answer is no could you please tell me why?
Here is the email/reply Imam Zia sent me.

From Zia Sheikh [email protected]
Subject Re Question For Imam ? Submitted through www.irvingmasjid.org
To ?Robert Cook? [email protected]
Date Friday, November 27, 2009, 1010 PM
We believe that Jesus and Moses were given revelations and we must believe in that as Muslims. However our belief is that the Qur?an is the final revelation that encompasses all the good that was in the previous scriptures, so most Muslims don?t study anything except the
Qur?an and hadith, which are the sayings of Prophet Muhammad.

Warm regards, Imam Zia
Thank You Imam Zia.

I am blessed that Imam Zia answered my question with honesty but here again the problem is that Muslims are to believe in that which they know nothing about at all. How could a Muslim now that any of the Torah or the Gospel of Jesus are good revelations from Allah unless they read and or study them? Because I can tell you that I have read all three books and there are great differences between them as far as Doctrine goes. And how can any Muslim believe that any scripture is corrupted without first looking to see if the scriptures are in fact corrupted?

[Jafar]

Proofs of these facts are available in what is called the ?Sayar-ul-Okul?. It is one among several volumes of ancient west Asian literature. The Turkish ruler Sultan Salim ordered an anthology to be compiled of ancient Arabic poetry from an earlier work in 1742 A.D. The pages of this volume are made of a kind of silk. According to Arab legend there was a plaque or dish that was hung in the Kaaba with an inscription on it about King Vikramaditya. On page 315 of the Sayar-ul-Okul volume which is in the treasured Makhtab-e-Sulania library in Istanbul Turkey and in the English language here is what the inscription says.

?Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during King Vikram?s reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf, we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of favor of the noble King Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us-foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognizant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at King Vikramaditya?s behest?

I have doubt on the authenticity of this.. due to the following

1. The social identity of "Arabs" as we know today is as new as the social identity of "Indians". Now even egyptians, lebanese, palestinians and syrians are also being called as "Arabs".
2. The labeling of Arab (from ancient semitic Arav which literally means desert) was being used mostly by the Israelites, Babylonians, Egyptians and Assyrians (today's it's being called as Syrians) for a group of other people 'who are living in the desert' which are unknown to them. They still refer to the desert people that they know and interact often with their respective names (e.g. Edomites, Nabateans, Midianites, Ishmaelites, Sarachens etc..) while the rest who are living in the deep desert they just call it as 'arabs' which means 'desert people'.
3. Saying the 'arabs' identify themselves as 'arabs' 2100 years ago is as 'strange' as the 'europeans' identify themselves as 'europeans'. No europeans today identify themselves as europeans, they always identify themselves as British, french, spaniards, portuguese, italiano, polish, germans, irish, scottish etc..

As a side note; 2000 years ago; there was an 'arab' who rule over the 'Judean Kingdom' named Herod, yet no one ever call him Herod the Arabs but Herod the Edomites...

Salam / Peace