Did Moses catch that snake,I dought it though,

unknownuser

Salaams,
Merie here said the secret is in the word Ganami for translating the ayats 2018-2020.

Well for your information this word doesn't mean just.

Sheep as such but also can mean things like to obtain good things without difficulty,earn a thing without trouble,get a thing as a free gift.

And someone sugested Assaa ,but Assaa doesn't mean just a stick unfortunately it means quit a number of things ,you do need lanes to see all the different meanings it can possibly have.

Please note i don't misslead anybody ,but you are free to take any translation i put here or trash it ,the only reason i do it is i myself can learn from/by doing this and inshaallah for ajar from allah.

This is translated by using QD and or Lanes.

Assahu = He disobeyd him, rebelled against
Assaa=state of a person.

2018

And what is that (f) your fortune O Moses.He said this of dissobeyance,rebelling/it my state ,was on a streight course but retired from it through fear of it and lost the supports with it for to obtain good things without difficulty and for me in it were uses other.
He (Allah)said which i convey O Moses.
So he conveyed and then when it was recieved quickly He said take thou and not fear ,rehearsing progressing to the without dought(proficient) And join together your (thoughts)power for your travel ,it will come forth clear without any Evilness/Unrighteousness/Blemish as sign another.

Salaams.

marie

Salam MZ, all

Salaams,
Marie here said the secret is in the word Ganami for translating the ayats 2018-2020.

Well for your information this word doesn't mean just.

I said the word "ghanamee" is a key word and not a secret.

Sheep as such but also can mean things like to obtain good things without difficulty,earn a thing without trouble,get a thing as a free gift.

I think you confuse the words "ghaneema(t), maghaanim" and the verb "ghanima" with the word "alghanam, alghanami" (2018, 2178, 6146)"

It is basic to consider the context of these verses

You should know ?Of anything you gain, that one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger, and the relatives, and the orphans, and the poor, and the wayfarer.? (841)
WaiAAlamoo annama ghanimtum min shay-in faanna lillahi khumusahu walilrrasooliwalithee alqurba waalyatama waalmasakeeniwaibni alssabeeli (841)

See also 4815
Those who lagged behind will say, when you venture out to collect the spoils..
Sayaqoolu almukhallafoona itha intalaqtumila maghanima lita/khuthooha ..

This is translated by using QD and or Lanes.

Assahu = He disobeyd him, rebelled against
Assaa=state of a person.

In 2018

The translation of "hiya AAasaya" word for word
hiya = It is
AAasa = the object (staff)
ya = my

disobedience = almaAAsiya(t) (588 and not "AAassa" according to your statement

Have you noted those who were enjoined from holding meetings in secret, but then they insist on it? They meet secretly to commit sin, transgression, and disobedience of the messenger. ..
Alam tara ila allatheena nuhooAAani alnnajwa thumma yaAAoodoona lima nuhooAAanhu wayatanajawna bial-ithmi waalAAudwani wa maAAsiyati alrrasooli ....(588

See also 589

I hope that helps

Salaam

unknownuser

Salaams marie ,
if i could ask are you ,or do you have access to a lanes?
As i don't care much for discusions which can't turn much benefit to anyone.
Thank you.

marie

Salam MZ,

Salaams marie ,
if i could ask are you ,or do you have access to a lanes?
As i don't care much for discusions which can't turn much benefit to anyone.
Thank you.

I have Lisan Alarab arabic-arabic (7 volumes).

The dictionaries are useful but the quran provides us the best explanations.

May Allah guide us to the straightpath

Marie

sabo

Salam,

this site http//www.muhaddith.org/
offers a special kind of software which can be downloaded here
http//www.muhaddith.org/downloads_free_islamic_software_books.html

this software can read the books made by this site, and mainly the arabic lexiconcs can be donwloaded there for free
http//www.muhaddith.org/lexicons.html

(Abjad Al Uloom, Al Qaamoos Al Muheet , Arabic - English Dictionary, Arabic Grammar Dictionary , Fiqh-ul Lughah , Kashf-ul-Thunoon, Lisaan-ul Arab, Mufradaat Alfaazhul Quraan , Mukhtaar-ul Sihaah )

But...Lexicons help those who already know a language, know how words are used grammatically and in context. Its foolish to assume, that someone can translate the Quran with zero knowledge in arabic language, zero knowledge about its grammar, measure of words (mizan), etc.. and just by using lexicons and ignoring all other issues and showing no intereset in them

May God bless those who have knowledge

Best regards
sabo

marie

Salam Sabo,

Very useful informations.

Thanks brother, Allah bless you

Regards

Marie

unknownuser

Salaams marie,
yes the quran provides the best explanations,but you are only reading a translation ,and to me or rather i have had enough garbage from a lot of people so i rather do the translation myself -and for myself,but i only put here for Allahs sake thats from my point of view.

And sabo it doesn't mean we shouldn't try translating ,we may not be as proficient as you but it doesn't mean we should just take what comes from arabs or others as such-There is a good lesson in your history Br.

Thanks.

marie

Salam MZ, all,

Salaams marie,
yes the quran provides the best explanations,but you are only reading a translation

I read it only in Arabic "it is my mother tongue" and I try to understand it in the light of the quran because I believe it explains itself.

and to me or rather i have had enough garbage from a lot of people so i rather do the translation myself -and for myself,but i only put here for Allahs sake thats from my point of view.

I can only to encourage you to do your own research and study of the quran. Allah guides those who seek the truth whatever their language )

And sabo it doesn't mean we shouldn't try translating ,we may not be as proficient as you but it doesn't mean we should just take what comes from arabs or others as such-There is a good lesson in your history Br.

Now you guess my thoughts but you are wrong.
Personnally I trust only Allah and He is our only guide)
This is why I undertook the translation of the quran arabic-french since 2 years, and the way is again long. The other translations are useful.
A translation never will be perfect, this is not a brake which will prevent us to translate the quran.

Allah bless

Marie

sabo

Salam,

And sabo it doesn't mean we shouldn't try translating ,we may not be as proficient as you but it doesn't mean we should just take what comes from arabs or others as such-There is a good lesson in your history Br.

Well then learn the arabic from the chinese or the british, they might help you, and I didn't say you shouldn't translate, go ahead if you wish.

It's not my business what you do, I just state my opinion about a translation or a method of translation. That's all

good luck,
sabo