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Here a compilation of the articles i wrote/posted as an anti-evolutionist

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    jonny_k
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    Peace,

    I used to claim
    taken from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11222.0

    http//www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=2476

    Peace all,
    At the above site you'll find a comprehensive refute to the absolutely garbage claims and horrendous lies of the evolutionists who say that the eye is a poor design and because of this structure must have evolved by chance instead of an intelligent source who calculated and adjusted everything accordingly. What a disgrace to humanity these "evolutionists" have become! These people will never earn any respect from me and if anyone here joinds them id say goodbye to them too. These claims are absolutely incomapatible with the Quran. GOD Bless!

    JK- Well then good bye old me, and i dont want your respect either. I dont think ive become a disgrace to humanity at all. On the contrary i feel much more happy and relieved now. Everything makes much more sense now. As for the Quran, evolution is absolutrly compatible with it except that i was still clinging to a somewhat biblical interpretaion of the Quran, a fatal error comitted by many.

    Heres another quote from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10933.0

    It is possible what one KIND/TYPE of animal can produce a VARIETY in order to adapt to its environment e.g. Alaska rabbits and those that we know commonly. The former adapted to its environment BECAUSE IT THE CODES FOR SUCH AN ADAPTATION WRE ALREADY PRESENT IN THE GENE POOL. Thus this type of evolution known as micro evolution or variation is agreed upon by ALL CREATIONISTS AS WELL including young earth creatiionists like Dr. Kent Hovind. Theres no argument at all about that. However these variations HAVE LIMITS which cannot be trespassed like for exampl,e toc ahnge a rabbit into a cat or so over time because the genetic code required is simply not available. Likewise the code for human speech and other features we posess is simply lacking in all ape/ape like species and RK proves using probability that a haphazard/random change from ape-human is implausible and utterly impossible i.e. IT IS MATHETICALLY IMPOSSIBLE THAT AN APE/APE LIKE CREATURE CHANGE TO A HUMAN BY RANDOM CHANCE MUTATION AND NATURAL SELCTION AS THE EVOLUTIONISTS WANT US TO BELIEVE. Hope you it this time. GOD Bless!

    JK- The first is simply not the case, since too much info in a single DNA would cause so many mutations which would render it useless. The 2nd bold statement is due to ignorance by me at that time that wer not talking abt random evolution here. I was forgetting tht the natural environment too was setup by GOD. GOD's setup is by no means limited to the DNA and this is perhaps the greatest flaw of the creationists who think every feature of a living being must be there in the DNA already.

    Me starting to support Bush as fnatical creationsism subconsciously takes over my mind
    taken from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10990.0

    Salam Phoenix,
    Are u a Quran Aloner or an atheist? I find that very biased. I believe that GW Bush has to take some actionhere soon before those Darwinian evolutionists take over the whole world and dominate us like it had been done in the past.
    GOD Bless!

    JK- In my stupid fanatiscism i forget tht Bush and the likes are the ones trying to take over the world.

    Yet on the same page a few posts later we can see that i was not far from accepting evolution

    It doesnt have to be neither is it(blind random chance). Thats what the ape-men evolutionists claim. "Intelligent Design" scientists claim just the opposite. They claim evolution has occurred due to an inteligent designer. Their only mistake may lie in that they claim that GOD intervened directly TO DESIGN THE ORIGINAL CELL which thrn evolved on. Id say GOD calculated all at the atomic level from the time of the big bang and thus they SELF ASSEMBLED at places destined for them like you say. That is correct. Yet this does not involve any ape-men evolution.

    JK- It is apparent that my greatest fear was the connection of apelike-men evolution immediately and necessarily with "blind random chance". However this thinking is flawed and is perhaps creationists greatest trick of retaining their sheep. I needed to get out of this ideology. You can clearly see from the statements above that i was almost there(at macroevolution) but needed to process some more information before i could accept it fully. Ill be looking for more of my previous posts and then post them here. GOD Bless!

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      unknownuser
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      PEace Bro Johnny

      is that link still missing or did they find it? cuz if it still is the missing link then i guess we're no apes and it's all just one big hypothesis gone ape

      excuse the pun lol

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        jonny_k
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        Peae sis "BOOST",

        PEace Bro Johnny

        is that link still missing or did they find it? cuz if it still is the missing link then i guess we're no apes and it's all just one big hypothesis gone ape

        excuse the pun lol

        JK- Sister there will always be gaps in the fossil record. This is obvious, so one can always claim a issing link. Please try to understand this. However we dont need fossils to prove evolution since microbiological pattern and pseudogenes prove this completely. Heres the link(and i dont mean the missing one lol )
        http//talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html
        Please read carefully through the entire article. GOD Bless!

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          Peace all,
          I spent most part of this night searching for all my previous posts on evolution whilst i vehemently rejected it. I tried hard to approch evolution from all angeles possible, trying my best to debunk it again and again. I used all kinds of arguments which if i now look are totally ridiculous and laughable. YOU CAN SEE MY OWN PSYCHOLOGICAL EVOLUTION ON THIS FORUM. I hope people whove still fallen for creationism will particularly take a look at these. Heres the list
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9708.msg40905#msg40905
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9710.msg40985#msg40985
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9693.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9706.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9706.msg40874#msg40874( super funny)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9717.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9717.msg41087#msg41087 (super funny)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9703.msg41256#msg41256
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9711.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9734.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9740.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9719.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9714.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9714.msg41370#msg41370 (super funny)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9746.0 ( I get first insights into how marvellous evolution really is)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9798.msg42243#msg42243(funny)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9738.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9817.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9694.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9694.msg40924#msg40924 (funny)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9818.msg42613#msg42613
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9828.msg42592#msg42592
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9812.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9814.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9839.msg42970#msg42970
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9856.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9838.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9838.msg43360#msg43360 (I actually give ?Dr.? Kent Hovind a call)
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9721.msg43250#msg43250
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9890.msg43731#msg43731
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9868.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10176.msg48665#msg48665
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10002.msg65676#msg65676
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10838.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10858.msg67922#msg67922
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10933.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=10990.msg71771#msg71771
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11228.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11222.0
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11284.msg73895#msg73895
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11295.msg74366#msg74366
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11770.msg82458#msg82458
          GOD Bless!

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            jonny_k
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            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13430.0 (My apology to brother "Andya Primanda&quot
            GOD Bless!

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              jonny_k
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              I quote myself from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9746.0
              "...Now 2 tell u most of the evolutionists argue utter nonsense but there is one evolutionist who made some pts which really fascinated me, namely Dr. Rainbow, a very experienced biologist. The debate btw him n Fr. Kent can be found at
              http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cffk0zQ33k
              He said tht although he himself is an agnostic arguing from a creationist angle how truly awesome it wld be tht GOD created the fundamental laws of nature thts the laws of physics n allowed the things 2 SELF ASSEMBLE in the entire universe based on those laws. This part is truly amazing n it does indeed happen at the micro level as i already mentioned."

              Note My confusion here was that i was separating micro from macro evolution when in reality there is NO BARRIER, whether logical or physical, preventing changes from accumulating over a certain point. I realized this later on.

              NOW compare this with my thinking having evolved at a later stage
              taken from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13244.msg110713#msg110713

              "GOD indeed creates in the most wonderful way. Nobody should doubt that. The point is HOW did / does GOD continue His creation and the most reasonable by current scientific analysis is through the process of evolution. Evolution is the most exciting concept. Whenever i think of it i feel like being in a space ship travelling with my fellow humans to explore new worlds and understand the marvels of the universe. This is what i believe GOD wants us to do ultimately here in this universe."

              GOD Bless!

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                Bosnian_Thinker
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                You remind me of what I used to believe. I used to hate hearing about evolution and always rejected it no matter how much evidence someone would throw at me. However, in the back of my mind, there was always a feeling that said I was believing the wrong thing. I had the same thoughts when I was a Sunni. Somewhere deep down I always knew that I was following the wrong path. Thank God that I found Islam and left Sunnism. Evolution is a beautiful concept and matches the symmetry of the Universe. The Universe began with a singularity and developed into a complex system, as we did the same starting with a single-celled organism. God is a magnificent designer.

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                  Mr_Deen
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                  I do not believe in evolution. Your ancestors are apes? Or even the primordeal soup for that matter, or NOTHING.

                  An Ifr?t (strong) from the jinns said "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place (council). And verily, I am indeed strong, and trustworthy for such work."

                  If a jinn can bring something, without moving, why should not Allah?

                  And yes, I do believe in the reality of these verses.

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                    liquiddharma
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                    The body ascends, the spirit descends. Our physical form evolved, and is descended from primates. Our soul did not evolve, it was created by Allah whole as is should be. Our genes come from animals. Our soul was never animal, but always human.

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                      steven7
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                      Hi,
                      This is Steven. I am new member to this site. the given topic is really very nice. And at the same time i don't believe that in evolution.

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                        The body ascends, the spirit descends. Our physical form evolved, and is descended from primates. Our soul did not evolve, it was created by Allah whole as is should be. Our genes come from animals. Our soul was never animal, but always human.

                        that's interesting concept

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                          jonny_k
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                          Peace "mr. deen",
                          I almost forgot to reply to you.

                          I do not believe in evolution. Your ancestors are apes? Or even the primordeal soup for that matter, or NOTHING.

                          JK- Please see the bulk of evidence i provided for evolution on this forum by seraching for "evolution" and my ID "jonny_k".

                          An Ifr?t (strong) from the jinns said "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place (council). And verily, I am indeed strong, and trustworthy for such work."

                          If a jinn can bring something, without moving, why should not Allah?

                          And yes, I do believe in the reality of these verses.

                          JK- Where does it say WITHOUT MOVING??? The verse only states that they did it very quickly. So they might be aliens who have a sophisticated type of technology who can carry this out very fast with repect to out senses. Read my article "MJAH(Malak Jinn are aliens hypotheis)"
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598009.0
                          GOD Bless!

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                            liquiddharma
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                            Okay, I've just got to ask. Jonny_k, why do you put quotation marks around everybody's names, and why do you finish every post saying God Bless!?

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                              jonny_k
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                              Peace "liquidharma",

                              Okay, I've just got to ask. Jonny_k, why do you put quotation marks around everybody's names, and why do you finish every post saying God Bless!?

                              JK- I put ppls IDs in quotes so that IT STANDS OUT and one can easily see who is being addressed. It's not meant to put the person's ID in a bad light by any means if you meant that. As for me ending every post with "GOD Bless" that is a habbit ive adopted since the very beginning when i first posted on any forum where i discuss religious/deen issues. I belevie it's a good habbit to remember GOD this way too and see no problem with it whatseover. GOD Bless!

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