IMPORTANT: Fasting will start on July 18, 2008
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I'm not sure if this can be called the full moon of "scorching heat", though.
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Salam,
By my reckoning, the fast of Ramadhan is to begin on December 12th (the full moon) and last for 10-days.Peace,
Respectfully.I thought Ramadhan means the hottest days ....
Besides, today we have some sun here in Ljubljana and it is 1823 at this very moment as i write, which means i got 3 to 4 hours, God willing to see the full moon tonight, God willing.
10 days?Peace.
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Peace,
I thought Ramadhan means the hottest days ....
Ramadhan is the month in which the
night of decreeoccurs. From the Quran, it can be determined that this night is the time of the winter solctice (December 21st).Therefore, Ramadhan would only fall in December.
As for the meaning of the word being
hot. That is only one of of several meanings that can be ascribed. -
Peace
Its entirely possible that the angels spoke to Mary to give prophecy at one time and then the Spirit came to her after to bring her the gift.
Where does it say in the Qur'an that night is more precious than day? That is something you have inferred leading you to look for the longest night in the year..
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"Laylat ul Qadr" literally means "Night of Power", or even "Night of Greatness"...
The article of the Laylat Al Qadr makes a lot of sense, but it's based on the assumptions that (1) God prefers night over day, which is never stated in Al-Qur'aan, (2) Esa was conceived during Ramadhan, which is also never stated, and (3) that "dates" ripen during the winter months, which is not necessarily true either. Also, arriving at the month of December is completely based on the assumption that Esa was born during the month of September, and this is false... In the 16th Surah of Al-Qur'aan, it says
"He (God) is the one who sent down water from the sky for you; from it you drink, and from it emerge the trees for your benefit. He brings forth with it vegetation, olives, DATE PALMS, grapes, and from all the fruits. In that are signs for a people who think." (1610,11)
These crops in the Middle Eastern side of the world usually grow during the spring and summer months, not during the winter. This confirms the meaning of the time as "Ramadhan", literally meaning "extreme heat", which is concentrated during the summer months. It may have possibly been during the period of Ramadhan when Esa was born, although it's not specifically stated in Al-Qur'aan. And even though God's Message does mention the Spirit going to Maryam to give her the gift of a child, it also mentions Esa being supported by the Spirit throughout his life... And regarding God's preference to night over day, this is not implied in Al-Qur'aan either. Actually, 1712 states that the two are both signs, night and day - one is not specifically placed above the other.
It is important to know when Ramadhan starts and ends, since it is a period of abstinence for the believers. However, God doesn't specifically state in Al-Qur'aan when the "Laylat ul Qadr" occurs, or even if it is one of His ongoing blessings to mankind. If it is, perhaps it is for the same reason He doesn't tell us exactly when the Day of Judgement will be. If not, then there is no need to specifically know it's date...
One of the Scriptures at the outset of the article was
"We have sent it down in a blessed night. Surely, We were to warn. In it, is a decree for every matter of wisdom." (443,4)
However, it is impossible to understand this statement without incorporating the previous verse
"And this clarifying Scripture..." (442)
If including this, it is evident that when the Message says, "In IT is a decree for every matter of wisdom," it's not speaking about the "Laylat ul Qadr", it's speaking about the Scripture, the Message to mankind. The only significance that the Night has is that Al-Qur'aan was initiated and sent to the prophet during this period. Therefore, it is inaccurate to make this assumption, as stated in the article
This night is not only a blessed night in itself, but it also would bless the period around it explaining why the fast has been commanded to occur in the month of Ramadhan in which the Night of Decree is contained...
The period of Ramadhan is blessed because this is when Al-Qur'aan was revealed to Mohammed, not because the Night occurs in the midst of Ramadhan. Making that type of assumption is placing too much emphasis on the Night, and not enough on the real purpose of Ramadhan, which is the revelation of the Message... I enjoyed the article, but I'll have to agree that the period of Ramadhan begins during the summer, not during the winter...
Peace.
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Peace,
With all due respect, peaceLast night i saw the full moon unlike a day or two ago when i saw like 98% of the moon being full. But last night was the night and when i wanted to look for the moon, i didn't even have to search thru the cliuds - it was there, the clouds moved away so that i could see the full moon, AlhamdilAllah.
July, 19th, 2008, i've strated fasting this dawn and i'm still investigating this issue regarding how long is the fast - ten days or a full month, that is untill the next full moon, which happens on August, 1st, 2008, God willing, InshaAllah.
The next full, BRIGHT, moon will be, God willing, on August, 16th, 2008, God willing. August, 16th, is also 29th day of the fast, if one decides to fast a full month. If one decides to fast for 10 days, the fast will finish July, 28th after sunset prayer, God willing.
Glory be to our God and may The Exalted God The Most Wise gives us more knowledge and guides us all to the Straight Path and forgives us all and rewards us with Paradise. God willing.
Peace. jedi -
Peace
Very good post by Ahmed Bilal, welcome to the forum.
Thanks for the welcome. Peace.
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salam,
Why only ten days? Do you view the 20 days before Laylat Al-Qadr as unQuranic?
Because we are only required to do the fast for
ayaam madoodatwhich comes to 10 days using the maximum definition of the word. These in my opinoin are the special 10-nights the Quran speaks about in sura 89. -
In the name of Allah.
Salam/Peace,
As for the exact date, careful investigation into circumstantial evidence and relevant clues point directly to Monday, Ramadan 21 at night, that is, August 10, 610 CE, with Prophet Muhammad exactly 40 years, 6 months and 12 days of age, that is, 39 Gregorian years, 3 months and 22 days.
Read more
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
http//www.easyislam.com/chronology_of_events_in_the_life_of_muhammad.asp
http//muhammad.islamonline.net/English/Whos_Muhammed/ImportantEvents/01.shtmlProphet Muhammad a.s. died on 632 CE.
The Prophet a.s. practiced Islamic calendar for 22 years
Read more
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar
http//www.islamicfinder.org/Hcal/special_days.phpSix (6) years after Prophet Muhammad a.s. passed away, on 638 CE (not too long after prophet died), the Omer kalifa wrote the Islamic Calendar in paper and spread it around the world. What Omer wrote, was what Muhammad a.s. practiced, and what Allah sent to us!
All arguments that we have today, also the Muhammad a.s had on his time! He is last messenger of Allah, he received the Quran on his heart from our GOD, and he explained to us how the shape of the New Moon is and when the Night of Decree is so we don?t harm our selves TODAY!
Quran verses are not to be commented by the people but are to be recorded on the hearts of the humanity. You all who are seeking the truth, learn to recite (put in your heart using your own language so you can understand) verses about the time calculation (2185 2189 936 105 1712 3639 ?) and see the miracle.
Hint
Ask yourself How old am I? Which calendar do I need to use?4615 We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says, "O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam."
How old was the Prophet Muhammad a.s when he received the First Revelation? Which calendar GOD used in the Quran to count his (and other prophets) years? Which calendar Prophet Muhammad a.s used during his time (22 years) as a prophet?
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If God gave clear RELIGIOUS guidance through the Qur'an then FASTING should be FULLY explained in the Qur'an not through an Imam or Muhammad's life. Muhammad is a messenger, his life bears no relevance on how we live our lives, only what he said in the Qur'an. The Qur'an does indeed give clear guidance that does not rely on anything based on after the revelation. It is outlined in the article made by Ayman.
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Peace,
With all due Respect,Allah says ?This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion? (Surah Al-Ma?idah 54)
This verse is clear - when The Quran was complete, written down and even memorized, every single matter was clear, they felt no need to ask prophet Muhammad anything, especially when it came to The Quran. They all had copies, most of them or even all of them even memorized it since they didn't exactly had that many books to get lost.
One must askher/himself"How many books did exist 1400 years ago, books that mattered, books that were famous and books that EVERYONE had in their homes?"
Peace. jedi
