"According to RK's Holy Hadith, 19 Miracle is indeed a Quran Protecting Code"
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*?Since RK claims that it is a code, then it is a code?
- ?RK must have authenticated what is with us; and the miracle witnessed by him must be a code?
*?I find the quran-alone message of RK perfectly conforming to my culture, knowledge and expectations. Therefore, the 19 miracle must be a code.?
*?I do not really know how to prove it; but I believe that the 19 miracle is a Quran Protecting Code?
*?Edip Yuksel, the great murted author, and Bahman, the renowned mathematician and many other VIPs became submitters. Therefore, the 19 miracle must be a code.?
*?Our great mathematicians and saints such as E. Yuksel and A. Arik all have asserted the miracle to be a code. How could all be wrong! Thus, it is a code.?
*?If more than hundreds of only-quraners (new-age muslims) believe in it, then it must be a code!?
*?I do not need to see a real system to believe that the miracle is a code. Faith needs no justification. If I believe in RK then it becomes a code!?
I will not be a surprised if a person declaring that "According to reliable reports, Table of the names of Allah is a miracle", also declares "According to reliable sources the seven pairs phenomenon is a 5 of 7". Why? Because such a person is not using his or her own mind; they have put their brains in the blind basket of religious adherence. Has become sheep in a herd?
Those who believe in the Code-Miracle blindly, betray the Miracle blindly, and unfortunately, they also lack the awareness and capacity to notice their contradictions, their ignorance and arrogance!
Son S?z G?rmemi aann mucizesi olmu, tutmu koparm. (Arjantin Atas?z?)
- ?RK must have authenticated what is with us; and the miracle witnessed by him must be a code?
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Objective arguments are better, because code 19 is not going around hurting people.
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This should have been put in the Submiters/ code 19I personally believe in a mathematical COMPOSITION in the Quran, due to the fact that there is a number of verses in the Quran that are composed of 19 letters (seehttp//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/quran/miracle_of_the_quran/great_new_discovery_%28P1367%29.html)
I believe in this mathematical composition because it made me become Absolutely certai that God Amlighty exists and it made me come closer to His Majesty.
Moreover I believe in the Message of Rashad khalifa, which is to follow the Quran ALONE. Only God Almighty knows for certain if Rashad is his messenger.
It is noteworthy to note that what Rashad Practiced went against his message! Follow the Quran alone, and yet he advised a 2.5% charity (something from tradition!). This is where one should read
Should we follow Rashad Khalifa the Messenger or his Message?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603114.0The whole purpose of messengers is to deliver the message (599)
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I personally believe in a mathematical COMPOSITION in the Quran
You can believe whatever you want.There may be such a composition or not, I don't know,and in fact no one knows. All we know is the existence of some 19 phenomena and that 19 is there to increase faiths (7431) but not more.
The problem begins at this point that some guys, the 19- authorities (!), claim insistently that 19 is actually a "quranic code" with the ONLY purpose of protecting Quran as if they had got revelation about it. Edip Yuksel accuses sunnis of being dogmatic while he is creating his own code-dogma. The inevitable results
1- 19ers evaluate 19 findings not according to their statistical values but according to their conformity to their code-dogma. The result Our 19ers rejected a very important finding (a message about salat) which is probably the seven pairs told in 1587 without even studying it.
2- Instead of objective 19-research, 19ers make a kind of proof hunt to support their belief. And some results are Edip's code list (mixed with real phenomena) and Bahman's very long numbers etc.
now if you read my previous post again, you can better understand it
peace