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    progod
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    Peace,

    A tiller of soil?

    Godbless,
    Anwar

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      Salam nana. The root verb of the noun Kafir is Kufr.

      Kufr... KFR.... K is the open palm of the hand... representing somenone who has been bent to the will of another..... F is the tent peg ... representing an addition.... R is the head of a man.... representing man.

      Kufr means bending the will of man by addition. Kafir are those that bend the will of others by additions.

      Allah taught man the names of all things.

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        Peace All'
        Kaffer root word is "Kaffer" which translate "Cover".

        Kaffer is any one who rejects One or all Verses in God's Book (Quran, Bible, and Torah in there original Languages).
        Saten was a believer of God existance, but became Kaffer when rejected God's Command (one command).
        Please note my signiture below.
        Peace

        I agree, except for the rejection of one or all verses. I mean there are verses you do not understand, or verses you do not think of all the time, or others that you do not apply because they are not relevant to your case. Does it mean believing in the existance of those verses? If Believing is not to believe in the existence of God, why would believing in the existence of a verse or another becomes more important?
        Also (related to the above), where are the other gospels in their original language? I do not think this is different from believing in the quraan and applying it, and that's sufficient. God copied all we need from the other scriptures into the qur'aan and made the rest forgotten by making them (or their language), forgotten, and replaced them with better ones and adding them to the quraan

        (Not a verse that We copy or make forgotten than We bring a similar or a better one).

        IMO, kaffir is not someone who does not believe in the existence of God (nowhere in the quraan does God command us to believe in His existence). He states that He is the Lord of the worlds, of the people and of everything, no meaning of our testimony. Besides, God commands us to reflect and think. What if one's way of thinking lead them to not believe in the existence of a god? I believe it's about the commands of God (that's where I agree with you ;D). Believing in X is not believing in the existence of X.
        Moreover, the quraan tells us that it contains every example. Does it contain an example of a good , just kafir? Don't we know of people who are, at least, agonistics, but are very good, honest and fair? I personally know two such people at least, and knew two more.

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          peace,

          All four are related and there is overlap. There would be no difference in outcome when the attribute of kafir is done with/to God, but in other cases there would be practical differences, e.g. tiller of the soil is kafir which is nothing to do with religion as such.

          I agree completely.

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            Don't we know of people who are, at least, agonistics, but are very good, honest and fair? I personally know two such people at least, and knew two more.

            Peace Samia,

            That was exactly what I thought when I came to question the established definition of kafir. I think people really need to reflect upon the difference between "declaration of faith" and "practice of faith". One must appreciate how the former is of less significance than the latter, and that it makes no sense that violation of either should be punished equally (or punished at all when it comes to the former).

            Peace,

            Nadeem

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              Salam,

              Let?s look at how the word kafir is used in the Quran

              A few notes first The same verses are used multiple times to make different points.
              And as always translations are used to give the reader an idea of the meaning of the verse. They are not a substitute for the original Arabic, nor are they entirely accurate.
              This is the first part of a two part post since the list is so long.

              Kaffir in God and His Revelations and Messengers

              Kafir in God

              227

              The ones who break their pledge to God after making its covenant, and they sever what God had ordered to be delivered. And they make corruption on Earth; these are the losers.

              228

              How can you kafir Allahwhen you were dead and He brought you to life? Then He makes you die, then He brings you to life, then to Him you return.

              Kafir what Allah revealed

              290

              Miserable indeed is what they purchase with their souls, that they disbelieve in what God has sent down as a resentment that God would send down from His grace to whom He pleases of His servants; thus they have incurred wrath upon wrath. And the rejecters will have a humiliating retribution.

              2253

              We have made some of these messengers to excel the others among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa son of Marium, and strengthened him with the holy spirit. And if Allah had pleased, those after them would not have fought one with another after clear arguments had come to them, but they disagreed; so there were some of them who believed and others who denied; and if Allah had pleased they would not have fought one with another, but Allah brings about what He intends.

              34

              Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.

              319

              Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.

              321

              Surely (as for) those who disbelieve in the communications of Allah and slay the prophets unjustly and slay those among men who enjoin justice, announce to them a painful chastisement.

              Deny previous scripture

              291

              And when it is said to them, Believe in what Allah has revealed, they say We believe in that which was revealed to us; and they deny what is besides that, while it is the truth verifying that which they have. Say Why then did you kill Allah's Prophets before if you were indeed believers?

              Kafiir in Prophets

              289

              And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.

              Prophets and Their Experiences with Al Kafiroon

              Mose's People Kafir Words of Allah

              261

              And when you said O Musa! we cannot bear with one food, therefore pray Lord on our behalf to bring forth for us out of what the earth grows, of its herbs and its cucumbers and its garlic and its lentils and its onions. He said Will you exchange that which is better for that which is worse? Enter a city, so you will have what you ask for. And abasement and humiliation were brought down upon them, and they became deserving of Allah's wrath; this was so because they disbelieved in the communications of Allah and killed the prophets unjustly; this was so because they disobeyed and exceeded the limits.

              Isa Percieved that Some People Were Kafir

              352

              But when Isa perceived unbelief on their part, he said Who will be my helpers in Allah's way? The disciples said We are helpers (in the way) of Allah We believe in Allah and bear witness that we are submitting ones.

              2102

              And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah's permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.

              We are Warned Not to be Al Kafiroon

              2102

              And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah's permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.

              2152

              Therefore remember Me, I will remember you, and be thankful to Me, and do not be Al-Kafiroon.

              Characteristics of Kafir

              They Mock Al-Muminoon

              2212

              This worldly life has been made pleasing to the disbelievers, and they mock those who believe. And those who are righteous will be above them on the Day of Resurrection; God provides for whoever He wishes without a price.

              Do not understand are deaf dumb and blind

              2171

              The example of such disbelievers is that of parrots who repeat what they hear of sounds and calls, without understanding. Deaf, dumb, and blind; they cannot understand.

              2258

              Have you not considered him (Namrud) who disputed with Ibrahim about his Lord, because Allah had given him the kingdom? When Ibrahim said My Lord is He who gives life and causes to die, he said I give life and cause death. Ibrahim said So surely Allah causes the sun to rise from the east, then make it rise from the west; thus he who disbelieved was confounded; and Allah does not guide aright the unjust people.

              Kafiirs Ask About Allah's Parables

              226

              Surely Allah is not ashamed to set forth any parable-- (that of) a gnat or any thing above that; then as for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord, and as for those who disbelieve, they say What is it that Allah means by this parable He causes many to err by it and many He leads aright by it! but He does not cause to err by it (any) except the transgressors

              Punishment of Al Kafiroon

              Deserving of Wrath Upon Wrath

              290

              Miserable indeed is what they purchase with their souls, that they disbelieve in what God has sent down as a resentment that God would send down from His grace to whom He pleases of His servants; thus they have incurred wrath upon wrath.And the rejecters will have a humiliating retribution.

              321

              Surely (as for) those who disbelieve in the communications of Allah and slay the prophets unjustly and slay those among men who enjoin justice, announce to them a painful chastisement.

              Are Inmates of the Fire

              239

              And (as to) those who disbelieve in and reject My communications, they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide.

              2257

              Allah is the guardian of those who believe. He brings them out of the darkness into the light; and (as to) those who disbelieve, their guardians are Shaitans who take them out of the light into the darkness; they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide.

              310

              (As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire.

              312

              Say to those who disbelieve You shall be vanquished, and driven together to hell; and evil is the resting-place.
              Allah has cursed them due to their disbelief

              Love of the Calf as Punishment for Al Kafiiroon

              293

              And when We made a covenant with you and raised the mountain over you Take hold of what We have given you with firmness and be obedient. They said We hear and disobey. And they were made to imbibe (the love of) the calf into their hearts on account of their unbelief Say Evil is that which your belief bids you if you are believers.

              Receive Enjoyment For A While then Cast into Fire

              2126

              And when Ibrahim said My Lord, make it a secure town and provide its people with fruits, such of them as believe in Allah and the last day. He said And whoever disbelieves, I will grant him enjoyment for a short while, then I will drive him to the chastisement of the fire; and it is an evil destination.

              If One Dies as Kafir They Recieve Curse of Allah, Angels an Al Nas

              2161

              Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all;

              severe chastisement in this world and hereafter

              356

              Then as to those who disbelieve, I will chastise them with severe chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall have no helpers.

              And They Shall Have No Helpers

              356

              Then as to those who disbelieve, I will chastise them with severe chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall have no helpers.

              This World's Life is Loved More to the Kafiir

              2212

              This worldly life has been made pleasing to the disbelievers, and they mock those who believe. And those who are righteous will be above them on the Day of Resurrection; God provides for whoever He wishes without a price.

              Love of amuwl and walid will not avail them

              310

              (As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire.

              Those Who Follow Isa Above Al Kafiroon

              355

              And when Allah said O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.

              What is said about those who are kafir

              Those Who are Al Kafiroon Have Lost the Right Path

              2108

              Rather you wish to put questions to your Messenger, as Musa was questioned before; and whoever adopts unbelief instead of faith, he indeed has lost the right direction of the way.

              Al Kafiroon are of the Losers

              2121

              Those to whom We have given the Book read it as it ought to be read. These believe in it; and whoever disbelieves in it, these it is that are the losers.

              Their Guardians are Shaitans who Take Them out of Light into Darkness

              2257

              Allah is the guardian of those who believe. He brings them out of the darkness into the light; and (as to) those who disbelieve, their guardians are Shaitans who take them out of the light into the darkness; they are the inmates of the fire, in it they shall abide.

              Continued.....

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                Salam,

                Here is the second part of the same post

                Warn Them or Warn Them Not, They Will Not Believe

                26

                Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
                27

                Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.

                They Do Not Want Any Good Sent Down To You from Allah

                2105

                Those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book do not like, nor do the polytheists, that the good should be sent down to you from your Lord, and Allah chooses especially whom He pleases for His mercy, and Allah is the Lord of mighty grace.

                Who are Al Kafiroon?

                Al Kafiroon are the Transgressors

                299

                And certainly We have revealed to you clear communications and none disbelieve in them except the transgressors.

                Shaitans are Al Kafiroon

                2102

                And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah's permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.

                Some Al Kafiroon and are Followers of the Book

                2105

                Those who disbelieve from among the followers of the Book do not like, nor do the polytheists, that the good should be sent down to you from your Lord, and Allah chooses especially whom He pleases for His mercy, and Allah is the Lord of mighty grace.

                319

                Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.

                Muminoon in part of the Book and kafir another

                285

                Yet you it is who slay your people and turn a party from among you out of their homes, backing each other up against them unlawfully and exceeding the limits; and if they should come to you, as captives you would ransom them-- while their very turning out was unlawful for you. Do you then believe in a part of the Book and disbelieve in the other? What then is the re ward of such among you as do this but disgrace in the life of this world, and on the day of resurrection they shall be sent back to the most grievous chastisement, and Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.

                319

                Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.

                Fighting in the Sacred Months

                2217

                They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say Fighting in it is kafiir, and hindering (men) from Allah's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with Allah, and persecution is graver than slaughter; and they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever-- these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide.

                Kaffir used in a Different Sense

                Kafiir in Those Exceeding Bounds

                2256

                There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in those exceeding bounds and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

                Concerning Charity

                2271

                If you give alms openly, it is well, and if you hide it and give it to the poor, it is better for you; and this will do away with some of your evil deeds; and Allah is aware of what you do.

                some pray for victory against those who kafir

                289

                And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.

                Salam,
                Arnab

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                  Peace,

                  A tiller of soil?

                  Godbless,
                  Anwar

                  Yes, this is a Classical Arabic meaning, and usage can be found in The Quran itself.

                  5720 KNOW that the life of this world is but a play and a passing delight, and a beautiful show, and your boastful vying with one another, and greed for more and more riches and children. Its parable is that of rain the herbage which it causes to grow delights the tillers of the soil; but then it withers, and thou canst see it turn yellow; and in the end it crumbles into dust. But in the life to come suffering severe, or God?s forgiveness and His goodly acceptance for the life of this world is nothing but an enjoyment of self-delusion.

                  This is the sole instance in the Qur?an where the participial noun kafir (in its plural form kuffar) has its original meaning of "tiller of the soil". For the etymology of this meaning, see note 4 on 74 10, where the term kafir (in the sense of "denier of the truth&quot appears for the first time in the sequence of Quranic revelation.(Quran Ref 5720 )

                  Since this is the earliest Qur'anic occurrence of the expression kafir (the above surah having been preceded only by the first five verses of surah 96), its use here - and, by implication, in the whole of the Qur?an - is obviously determined by the meaning which it had in the speech of the Arabs before the advent of the Prophet Muhammad in other words, the term kafir cannot be simply equated, as many Muslim theologians of post-classical times and practically all Western translators of the Qur?an have done, with "unbeliever" or "infidel" in the specific, restricted sense of one who rejects the system of doctrine and law promulgated in the Qur?an and amplified by the teachings of the Prophet - but must have a wider, more general meaning. This meaning is easily grasped when we bear in mind that the root verb of the participial noun kafir (and of the infinitive noun kufr) is kafara, "he covered " thus, in 5720 the tiller of the soil is called (without any pejorative implication) kafir, "one who covers", i.e., the sown seed with earth, just as the night is spoken of as having "covered" (kafara) the earth with darkness. In their abstract sense, both the verb and the nouns derived from it have a connotation of "concealing" something that exists or "denying" something that is true. Hence, in the usage of the Qur?an - with the exception of the one instance ((in 5720) where this participial noun signifies a "tiller of the soil" - a kafir is "one who denies the truth" in the widest, spiritual sense of this latter term that is, irrespective of whether it relates to a cognition of the supreme truth - namely, the existence of God - or to a doctrine or ordinance enunciated in the divine writ, or to a self-evident moral proposition, or to an acknowledgment of, and therefore gratitude for, favours received. (Regarding the expression alladhinakafaru, implying conscious intent, see surah 2, note 6.)(Quran Ref 7410 )

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    Salam,

                    Here is the Semitic History of the Word Kafir. The definition found in Hebrew and Aramaic is in agreement with the quote from M. Asad stating the Arabic definition posted by Wakas.

                    From Gesenius Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon (summarized)

                    Hebrew

                    1. properly to cover over
                    2. to cover over, to overspread with anything, as with pitch
                    3. covered with hair, to be hairy, shaggy
                    4. to cover sins, ie pardon
                    5. to obtain forgiveness (from covering over of sins)

                    Aramaic

                    1. smear over, to abolish

                    From Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionary and Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions

                    Strong's H3722

                    kaphar
                    kaw-far'
                    A primitive root; to cover (specifically with bitumen); figuratively to expiate or condone, to placate or cancel - appease, make (an) atonement, cleanse, disannul, forgive, be merciful, pacify, pardon, to pitch, purge (away), put off, (make) reconcile (-liation).

                    BDB Definition

                    1. to cover, purge, make an atonement, make reconciliation, cover over with pitch
                      1a) (Qal) to coat or cover with pitch
                      1b) (Piel)
                      1b1) to cover over, pacify, propitiate
                      1b2) to cover over, atone for sin, make atonement for
                      1b3) to cover over, atone for sin and persons by legal rites
                      1c) (Pual)
                      1c1) to be covered over
                      1c2) to make atonement for
                      1d) (Hithpael) to be covered
                      Part of Speech verb
                      A Related Word by BDB/Strong?s Number a primitive root
                      Same Word by TWOT Number 1023, 1024, 1025, 1026

                    Strong's H3723

                    kaphar
                    kaw-fawr'
                    From H3722; a village (as protected by walls) - village. Compare H3715.

                    BDB Definition

                    1. village
                      Part of Speech noun masculine
                      A Related Word by BDB/Strong?s Number from H3722
                      Same Word by TWOT Number 1025c

                    Strong's H3724

                    kopher
                    ko'-fer
                    From H3722; properly a cover, that is, (literally) a village (as covered in); (specifically) bitumen (as used for coating), and the henna plant (as used for dyeing); figuratively a redemption price - bribe, camphire, pitch, ransom, satisfaction, sum of money, village.

                    BDB Definition

                    1. price of a life, ransom, bribe
                    2. asphalt, pitch (as a covering)
                    3. the henna plant, name of a plant (henna?)
                    4. village
                      Part of Speech noun masculine
                      A Related Word by BDB/Strong?s Number from H3722
                      Same Word by TWOT Number 1025b

                    Strong's H3725

                    kippur
                    kip-poor'
                    From H3722; expiation (only in plural) - atonement.

                    BDB Definition

                    1. atonement
                      Part of Speech noun masculine plural
                      A Related Word by BDB/Strong?s Number from H3722

                    From The Theological Word Book of the Old Testament

                    1023 - kapar

                    Hebrew Word kapar
                    Strong's Cross Reference 3722
                    Definition I, make an atonement, make reconciliation, purge. (Denominative verb.) This root should probably be day of atonement. place of atonement; KJV, mercy seat.

                    The root kapar is used some 150 times. It has been much discussed. There is an equivalent Arabic root meaning "cover," or "conceal." On the strength of this connection it has been supposed that the Hebrew word means "to cover over sin" and thus pacify the deity, making an atonement (so BDB). It has been suggested that the OT ritual symbolized a covering over of sin until it was dealt with in fact by the atonement of Christ. There is, however, very little evidence for this view. The connection of the Arabic word is weak and the Hebrew root is not used to mean "cover." The Hebrew verb is never used in the simple or Qal stem, but only in the derived intensive stems. These intensive stems often indicate not emphasis, but merely that the verb is derived from a noun whose meaning is more basic to the root idea.

                    koper. Ransom. Every Israelite was to give to the service of the sanctuary the "ransom" money of half a shekel (Exo_3012). Egypt, in God's sight, was given as a "ransom" for the restoration of Israel (Isa_433). This word "ransom" is parallel to the word "redeem" (pdda, which see) in Psa_497. There is a warning that a man guilty of murder must be killed-no "ransom" can be given in exchange for his life (Num_3531). The word is also used in a bad sense as a "bribe" which wrongly purchases favor (1Sa_123).

                    From the meaning of koper "ransom," the meaning of kapar can be better understood. It means "to atone by offering a substitute." The great majority of the usages concern the priestly ritual of sprinkling of the sacrificial blood thus "making an atonement" for the worshipper. There are forty-nine instances of this usage in Leviticus alone and no other meaning is there witnessed. The verb is always used in connection with the removal of sin or defilement, except for Gen_3220; Pro_1614; and Isa_2818 where the related meaning of "appease by a gift" may be observed, It seems clear that this word aptly illustrates the theology of reconciliation in the OT. The life of the sacrificial animal specifically symbolized by its blood was required in exchange for the life of the worshipper. Sacrifice of animals in OT theology was not merely an expression of thanks to the deity by a cattle raising people. It was the symbolic expression of innocent life given for guilty life. This symbolism is further clarified by the action of the worshipper in placing his hands on the head of the sacrifice and confessing hi s sins over the animal (cf. Lev_1621; Lev_14; Lev_44, etc.) which was then killed or sent out as a scapegoat.

                    kippur. Atonement. kapporet. Mercy seat. These two nouns are derived from the verb as used in the intensive stem The first is used today in the name of the Jewish holiday yom kippur "day of atonement" (used only in the plural in the OT) which was the tenth day of the seventh month, Tishri. This solemn day was the only day of fasting prescribed for Israel. It was celebrated by a special sin offering for the whole nation. On that day only would the high priest enter within the inner veil bearing the blood of the sin offering (cf. Heb_97). A second goat was released as an escape goat to symbolize the total removal of sin (see 'aza'zel "scapegoat&quot.

                    kappboret. Mercy seat. This noun is used twenty-seven times and always refers to the golden cover of the sacred chest in the inner shrine of the tabernacle or temple. It was from above the mercy seat that God promised to meet with men (Num_789). The word, however, is not related to mercy and of course was not a seat. The word is derived from the root "to atone." The Greek equivalent in the LXX is usually hilasterion, "place or object of propitiation," a word which is applied to Christ in Rom_325. The translation "mercy seat" does not sufficiently express the fact that the lid of the ark was the place where the blood was sprinkled on the day of atonement. "Place of atonement" would perhaps be more expressive. R.L.H.

                    1024 - kapar

                    Hebrew Word kapar
                    Strong's Cross Reference 3722
                    Definition II, cover over with pitch. This denominative verb is used only in Gen_614 in the waterproofing of the ark. The cognate word is used in the Babylonian flood story.

                    Derivative TWOT Number 1024a
                    Derivative Transliteration koper
                    Derivative Strong's Cross Reference None
                    Derivative Definition pitch. A noun, from which the above verb was doubtless derived. Pitch, bitumen, asphalt was used in early antiquity as an adhesive to hold inlays into statues. It was a logical material for caulking he ark as specified both in the Bible and the Babylonian flood story. R.L.H.

                    From Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old Testament Words

                    Atone

                    A. Verb.

                    kapar (H3722), "to cover over, atone, propitiate, pacify." This root is found in the Hebrew language at all periods of its history, and perhaps is best known from the term Yom Kippur, "Day of Atonement." Its verbal forms occur approximately 100 times in the Hebrew Bible. Kapar is first found in Gen_614, where it is used in its primary sense of "to cover over." Here God gives Noah instructions concerning the ark, including, "Cover it inside and out with pitch" (RSV). (The KJV translates, "Pitch it within and without with pitch.&quot
                    Most uses of the word, however, involve the theological meaning of "covering over," often with the blood of a sacrifice, in order to atone for some sin. It is not clear whether this means that the "covering over" hides the sin from God's sight or implies that the sin is wiped away in this process.

                    As might be expected, this word occurs more frequently in the Book of Leviticus than in any other book, since Leviticus deals with the ritual sacrifices that were made to atone for sin. For example, Lev_413-21 gives instructions for bringing a young bull to the tent of meeting for a sin offering. After the elders laid their hands on the bull (to transfer the people's sin to the bull), the bull was killed. The priest then brought some of the blood of the bull into the tent of meeting and sprinkled it seven times before the veil. Some of the blood was put on the horns of the altar and the rest of the blood was poured at the base of the altar of burnt offering. The fat of the bull was then burned on the altar. The bull itself was to be burned outside the camp. By means of this ritual, "the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them" (Lev_420).

                    The term "atonement" is found at least 16 times in Leviticus 16, the great chapter concerning the Day of Atonement. Before anything else, the high priest had to "make atonement" for himself and his house by offering a bull as a sin offering. After lots were cast upon the two goats, one was sent away into the wilderness as an atonement (Lev_1610), while the other was sacrificed and its blood sprinkled on the mercy seat as an atonement for the people (Lev_1615-20). The Day of Atonement was celebrated only once a year. Only on this day could the high priest enter the holy of holies of the tabernacle or temple on behalf of the people of Israel and make atonement for them.

                    Sometimes atonement for sin was made apart from or without blood offerings. During his vision-call experience, Isaiah's lips were touched with a coal of fire taken from the altar by one of the seraphim. With that, he was told, "Thy sin is purged " (Isa_67). The English versions translate the word variously as "purged" (KJV, JB); "forgiven" (RSV, NASB, TEV); and "wiped away" (NEB). In another passage, Scripture says that the guilt or iniquity of Israel would be "purged" (KJV, NEB) by the destruction of the implements of idolatrous worship (Isa_279). In this case, the RSV renders kapar as "expiated," while the NASB and TEV translate it as "forgiven."

                    B. Noun.

                    kapporet (H3727), "mercy seat; throne of mercy." This noun form of kapar has been variously interpreted by the English versions as "mercy seat" (KJV, RSV); "cover" (NEB); "lid" (TEV); "throne of mercy" (JB); and "throne" (Knox). It refers to a slab of gold that rested on top of the ark of the covenant. Images of two cherubims stood on this slab, facing each other. This slab of gold represented the throne of God and symbolized His real presence in the worship shrine. On the Day of Atonement, the high priest sprinkled the blood of the sin offering on it, apparently symbolizing the blood's reception by God. Thus the kapporet was the central point at which Israel, through its high priest, could come into the presence of God.

                    This is further seen in the fact that the temple proper was distinguished from its porches and other accompanying structures by the name "place of the mercy seat (kapporet)" (1Ch_2811). The Septuagint refers to the mercy seat as a "propitiary" (hilasteirion).

                    Salam,
                    Arnab

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                      Salam arnab. Please reconsider your analysis of the root word.

                      The issue is, is the medial letter in kufr, KFR... the hebrew pey P, or the hebrew vaw V. Note the V... vaw.. evolved into the modern english F... I believe, i may be mistaken, that it was pronounced faw originally. You use the hebrew P.. pey.. pronounced p or ph.... instead of the hebrew V .. vaw.. pronounced f.

                      The result of using P instead of V is that the word comes across as cover. I tried reciting Quran using cover, and the verses lose their understandeability. Maybe you could show us how the verse is readable using the term cover or its equivalent.

                      Please examine this issue and inform us as to what you find. I am aware that you are very knowledgeable on the issue of the Aramaic-Hebrew-Arabic connections.

                      Here is a second issue. You may have observed that the hebrew M which is represented by a pictogram of water, became an S in arabic, despite the arabic word for water being ma'a. Note also the the hebrew N became a M in arabic. This raises an interesting study of how the scribes transcribed the recitation of Torah and Quran. Allah makes no mistakes, man makes mistakes.

                      Allah raises man by stages.

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                        Salam arnab. Please reconsider your analysis of the root word.

                        The issue is, is the medial letter in kufr, KFR... the hebrew pey P, or the hebrew vaw V. Note the V... vaw.. evolved into the modern english F... I believe, i may be mistaken, that it was pronounced faw originally. You use the hebrew P.. pey.. pronounced p or ph.... instead of the hebrew V .. vaw.. pronounced f.

                        The peh and fa are exclusively interchangable between the semitic languages. The vav and fa are not.

                        Pe is the seventeenth letter in many Semitic abjads, including Phoenician, Aramaic, Hebrew Pei , Persian alphabet Pe and Arabic alphabet f (in abjadi order).

                        The original sound value is a voiceless bilabial plosive /p/; it retains this value in most Semitic languages except for Arabic, which having lost /p/ now uses it to render a voiceless labiodental fricative /f/.

                        In the process of developing from Proto-Semitic, Proto-Semitic /p/ became Arabic /f/, and this is reflected in the use of the letter representing /p/ in other Semitic languages for /f/ in Arabic.

                        The result of using P instead of V is that the word comes across as cover. I tried reciting Quran using cover, and the verses lose their understandeability. Maybe you could show us how the verse is readable using the term cover or its equivalent.

                        Let's consider the many ways that cover is used in English and the many definitions that it includes

                        source http//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cover

                        Main Entry
                        1cov?er
                        Pronunciation
                        \k-vr
                        Function
                        verb
                        Inflected Form(s)
                        cov?ered; cov?er?ing Listen to the pronunciation of covering \kv-ri, k-v-
                        Etymology
                        Middle English, from Anglo-French coverir, covrir, from Latin cooperire, from co- + operire to close, cover
                        Date
                        13th century

                        transitive verb
                        1 a to guard from attack
                        b (1) to have within the range of one's guns command
                        (2) to hold within range of an aimed firearm
                        c (1) to afford protection or security to insure
                        (2) to afford protection against or compensation for <a policy covering loss by fire>
                        d (1) to guard (an opponent) in order to obstruct a play <a linebacker assigned to cover the tight end>
                        (2) to be in position to receive a throw to (a base in baseball) <the shortstop was covering second> e
                        (1) to make provision for (a demand or charge) by means of a reserve or deposit <your balance is insufficient to cover the check>
                        (2) to maintain a check on especially by patrolling
                        (3) to protect by contrivance or expedient

                        2 a to hide from sight or knowledge conceal <cover up a scandal>
                        b to lie over envelop <a blanket covering her legs>

                        3 to lay or spread something over overlay <cover the seed bed with straw>

                        4 a to spread over <snow covered the hills> b to appear here and there on the surface of <a region covered with lakes>

                        5 to place or set a cover or covering over <cover the pot>

                        6 a to copulate with (a female animal) <a horse covers a mare>
                        b to sit on and incubate (eggs)

                        7 to invest with a large or excessive amount of something <covered herself with glory>

                        8 to play a higher-ranking card on (a previously played card)

                        9 to have sufficient scope to include or take into account <an examination covering a full year's work>

                        10 to deal with treat <material covered in the first chapter>

                        11 a to have as one's territory or field of activity <one sales rep covers the whole state>
                        b to report news about <reporters covering the campaign>

                        12 to pass over traverse <the hikers covered 12 miles that day>

                        13 to defray the cost of <cover expenses>

                        14 to place one's stake in equal jeopardy with in a bet

                        15 to buy securities or commodities for delivery against (an earlier short sale)

                        16 to record or perform a cover of (a song)

                        intransitive verb

                        1 to conceal something illicit, blameworthy, or embarrassing from notice ?usually used with up

                        2 to act as a substitute or replacement during an absence

                        Main Entry
                        2cover
                        Function
                        noun
                        Usage
                        often attributive
                        Date
                        14th century

                        1 something that protects, shelters, or guards as
                        a natural shelter for an animal; also the factors that provide such shelter
                        b (1) a position or situation affording protection from enemy fire
                        (2) the protection offered by airplanes in tactical support of a military operation
                        c British coverage 1a, b, 2a

                        2 something that is placed over or about another thing
                        a lid, top
                        b a binding or case for a book or the analogous part of a magazine; also the front or back of such a binding
                        c an overlay or outer layer especially for protection <a mattress cover>
                        d a tablecloth and the other table accessories
                        e cover charge
                        f roof
                        g a cloth used on a bed for warmth or for decoration ?usually used in plural <lying under the covers>
                        h something (as vegetation or snow) that covers the ground
                        i the extent to which clouds obscure the sky

                        3 a something that conceals or obscures <under cover of darkness>
                        b a masking device pretext <the project was a cover for intelligence operations>

                        4 an envelope or wrapper for mail

                        5 one who substitutes for another during an absence

                        6 a recording or performance of a song previously recorded by another performer

                        We can see many of the same definitions that we find in Arabic and many that are not.

                        The point is not to compare the two languages in definitions but to point out the range of use that the word has in both languages.

                        We can not pin it down to just one direct definition in English no more than we can in Arabic.

                        I would say that a flexible understanding of the word is important to understanding its usage.

                        Here is a second issue. You may have observed that the hebrew M which is represented by a pictogram of water, became an S in arabic, despite the arabic word for water being ma'a.

                        The meem in Hebrew is compatable with the meem in Arabic.

                        If you are referring to the shape of the shiin being similiar to the ancient pictograph of a meem, I can see where you could come to that conclusion. But this is a mistake.

                        The ancient pictograph of a shiin is more compatible with the current shiin/siin we have in Arabic visually.
                        The ancient pictograph some say represent two front teeth or the suns rays (there are different theories).

                        The words that begin with meem in Hebrew and Aramaic are transliterated into the same words using Arabic letters.

                        There are no instances when a word beginning with meem in Hebrew is transliterated into a word beginning with siin/shiin in Arabic.

                        (Just a note to readers Often times the word transliterate is confused with translate....
                        transliteration is the practice of transcribing a word or text written in one writing system into another writing system
                        and translation is the action of interpretating the meaning of a text from one language into another.)

                        Note also the the hebrew N became a M in arabic.

                        This is also incorrect. The Hebrew words that begin with nun are transliterated into words that begin with nun in the Arabic language.

                        Salam,
                        Arnab

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                          I agree, except for the rejection of one or all verses. I mean there are verses you do not understand, or verses you do not think of all the time, or others that you do not apply because they are not relevant to your case. Does it mean believing in the existance of those verses?

                          Ones might not follow one of God commands due to weakness or desire; but do they realize that they are committing Sin or not is what defines Kaffer. If they realize, then thay are Siners and not Kaffer, but if they do not think that they are Siners, then they are rejecting the Command (The Verse)--Kaffer.

                          If Believing is not to believe in the existence of God, why would believing in the existence of a verse or another becomes more important?

                          Believing in God existance is important but not enough. Saten Believes in God Existance, does that makes him a believer?

                          Also (related to the above), where are the other gospels in their original language? I do not think this is different from believing in the quraan and applying it, and that's sufficient.

                          God copied all we need from the other scriptures into the qur'aan and made the rest forgotten by making them (or their language), forgotten, and replaced them with better ones and adding them to the quraan

                          I agree that Umaht Mohamed are ordered to Judge by the Quran; but we still have to believe in the other books as they are the words of God.

                          IMO, kaffir is not someone who does not believe in the existence of God (nowhere in the quraan does God command us to believe in His existence).

                          yes there are, here is one of them

                          (&#65279
                          Hast thou not turned thy thought to one who disputed with Abraham about his Lord because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said "My Lord is He Who giveth life and death." He said "I give life and death." Said Abraham "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the East do thou then cause him to rise from the West?" Thus was he confounded who rejected faith (Kaffer). Nor doth Allah give guidance to a people unjust. (2-25

                          What if one's way of thinking lead them to not believe in the existence of a god?

                          Please refre to the above verse (2-285)

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                            Ones might not follow one of God commands due to weakness or desire; but do they realize that they are committing Sin or not is what defines Kaffer. If they realize, then thay are Siners and not Kaffer, but if they do not think that they are Siners, then they are rejecting the Command (The Verse)--Kaffer.

                            I did not mean verses of commandments. I meant verses even a good believer may forget their existence or even does not know they exist.

                            Believing in God existance is important but not enough. Saten Believes in God Existance, does that makes him a believer?

                            That's not what I was arguing.

                            I agree that Umaht Mohamed are ordered to Judge by the Quran; but we still have to believe in the other books as they are the words of God.

                            I am not arguing that we should believe in the other books. What I sy is that God selleted the verses from the other books which we should apply and copied them in the qur'aan (not a verse that We copy...). The others that ae not to be applied anymore were replaced by better ones (na'ti .bi....ahsana minha)

                            yes there are, here is one of them

                            (&#65279
                            Hast thou not turned thy thought to one who disputed with Abraham about his Lord because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said "My Lord is He Who giveth life and death." He said "I give life and death." Said Abraham "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the East do thou then cause him to rise from the West?" Thus was he confounded who rejected faith (Kaffer). Nor doth Allah give guidance to a people unjust. (2-25

                            This is an example. I am talking of a command to believe in the existance of God..

                            Please refre to the above verse (2-285)

                            Again verse 2-285 is not the answer to my question. This tyrant did not follow the command of God to reflect and ended up not believing that there is God.

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                              Peace,

                              Thanks Wakas. I don't remember having seen that before. Definitely makes sense. (although not all meanings have to be in line with a common idea all of the time, this one is.) As far as Asad's analysis based on the science of Quranic revelation at certain times (meccan, medina etc.) I'm not interested in that. I believe the Quran was given to the prophet at once and he revealed it to the people in stages. But thanks again, you pleasantly caught me off guard with that particular meaning

                              Arnab, As for the Hebrew meaning, interesting, as far a the similarity of Semitic languages are concerned. But Hebrew is of no concern to me here, nor do I believe it factors into the study of Classical Arabic and the compilation of the Quran in anyway (the sole exception being the word Torah). Thanks anyway though.

                              Godbless,
                              Anwar

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                                Peace,

                                (although not all meanings have to be in line with a common idea all of the time, this one is.) As far as Asad's analysis based on the science of Quranic revelation at certain times (meccan, medina etc.) I'm not interested in that.
                                Godbless,
                                Anwar

                                Salaa Anwar
                                Yes, I totally agree neither am I.

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                                  For the record, I am not interested in the traditional revelation order either. I included this info as it was part of Asad's notes on the referenced sign/ayat.

                                  Asad was where I first came across this usage, hence quoting him for due credit. I consider Asad's translation as one of the best English translations available.

                                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                    http//www.studytoanswer.net/islam/purearabic.html

                                    This site talks about the foreign words in the Quran. Here are a few

                                    kaahin (5229, 6942) - from khn', Syraic "priest", in the sense of a pagan soothsayer or diviner
                                    masiih. (345, etc.) - from mshyh.', Syraic "the Christ", analogous to the Hebrew Mashioch
                                    qissiis (585) - from qshysh', Syraic "Christian priest"
                                    furqaaan (250) - from pwrqn', Syraic "salvation"
                                    rabbaanii (373, 548, 56 - from rbn', Syraic "perceptor, doctor"
                                    qiyaama (285, 2113, numerous times) - from qymt', Syraic "resurrection"
                                    ruuh. al-qudus (16102) - from rwh. qwdsh', Syraic "Holy Spirit"

                                    I should add I don't speak arabic or syriac, but am trying to learn aramaic to read the New Testament. Thanks to Arnab.

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                                      My question for the arabic readers, is the grammer really poor? Or is it because Mohammad was trying to rhyme, an explaintion I have heard?

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                                        Arnab, As for the Hebrew meaning, interesting, as far a the similarity of Semitic languages are concerned. But Hebrew is of no concern to me here, nor do I believe it factors into the study of Classical Arabic and the compilation of the Quran in anyway (the sole exception being the word Torah). Thanks anyway though.

                                        Salam,

                                        It is a mistake not to consider the Hebrew and Aramaic origins of an Arabic word. Most words in Arabic are identical in definition and usage to their predecessors. And by exploring their meaning and usage in the semitic languages we can understand how the words are used in scripture.

                                        Those such as Wilhelm Gesenius (Gesenius Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon) , James Strong (Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries), W.E. Vine (Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words), R. Laird Harris (Theological Word Book of the Old Testament), Edward Lane (Lane's Lexicon) and others referrence all the semitic languages through out there lexicons or dictionaries.

                                        It is of utmost importance to study all the semitic languages when studying Arabic.

                                        Salam,
                                        Arnab

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                                          I did not mean verses of commandments. I meant verses even a good believer may forget their existence or even does not know they exist.

                                          Intention is what counts (God knows if we forget or do not know)

                                          That's not what I was arguing.I am not arguing that we should believe in the other books. What I sy is that God selleted the verses from the other books which we should apply and copied them in the qur'aan (not a verse that We copy...). The others that ae not to be applied anymore were replaced by better ones (na'ti .bi....ahsana minha)This is an example.

                                          Ok

                                          I am talking of a command to believe in the existance of God..Again verse 2-285 is not the answer to my question. This tyrant did not follow the command of God to reflect and ended up not believing that there is God.

                                          (&#65279 (&#65279 (&#65279
                                          "I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of All?h, and Shait?n has made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and has barred them from (All?h's) Way, so they have no guidance," (24) so they do not worship All?h, Who brings to light what is hidden in the heavens and the earth, and knows what you conceal and what you reveal. 25) All?h, L? il?ha illa Huwa , the Lord of the Supreme Throne! (27-26)

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