To shoaib,and sabo the mighty Translators,and Grammatists?
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Salaams ,
These people want me to learn Arabic and purposely have a mind like them,except things the way they understand.Its Astonishing.What can Allah mean
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- O you who believe, do not come near the contact-method while you are drunk, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless travelling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or one of you has excreted feces, or you had sexual contact with the women, and could not find water then you shall make ablution with clean soil by wiping your faces and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.
So after excreting feces,according to this translation funny all you need to do is wipe your faces and your hands (if you can't find water),and you then can take part in a salah!
I have never tried this nor intend to ,Rather wipe parts of my body which need wiping, How about the rest of you gang?Aparently the translators have a peculier cleansing method ,or may be its just for all its followers.
No disrespects.
Salaams
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peace mz,
If someone keeps going on about correcting translations, then one would expect them to translate a verse correctly. Allow me to provide a more accurate translation of one part of your translation
The literal meaning of
- Aw = Or
- Ja'a = Come (past tense)
- Ahadun = One
- Minkum = Of You
- Min = From/Of
*Al = the
*Ghaiti = toilet
Note the past tense, thus finish what one does in the toilet (which, I dont know about you, but for me that includes wiping my ass) lol
Taken from here.
No disrespects.
Wakas
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Salaams waqas,
why on earth did you think i would expect you to wipe it when you haven't finish the job?Yes You are beyond anyones guese.
And i don't think people then had toilets ,you said finish the job in the toilet.Belive it you don't seem that good anymore- that's translating ,sorry to say it.
Give me one good reason why you need to dust your face ,While wiping your ass would sound more beneficial -after you've been and before a meeting ,a salaat.
And if you didn't know this method of wiping ones--,is i believe used throughout the world if you are without water,so sorry to dissapoint you chaps.Its a common practice and the Arabs are not the only people God showed this method of keeping Hygen.
Thanks for the infoSalaams.
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Salaams waqas,
Just for your records,you stated
Ja'a = Come (past tense)
Well according to the Quranic dictionary
Ja'a = (can also means) To do a thing.
So the respective ayat goes something like this.
- O you who believe, do not come near the SALAAT while you are drunk, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless travelling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or DID A THING one of you FROM EXCRETION OF feces, or sexual contact with the women, and could not find water then you shall make ablution with clean soil by wiping your SELVES(YOUR ASSES ,IN THIS CASE) and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.
Br.you do need to check the translations of words yourselfand then Allah will giude us to the right understandings.
Thanks.
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Peace,
- O you who believe, do not come near the SALAAT while you are drunk, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless travelling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or DID A THING one of you FROM EXCRETION OF feces, or sexual contact with the women, and could not find water then you shall make ablution with clean soil by wiping your SELVES(YOUR ASSES ,IN THIS CASE) and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.
This verse is describing some basic hygienic manners to respect before meeting with people, in order to avoid illness transmission.
- O you who believe, do not come near the SALAAT while you are drunk, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless travelling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or DID A THING one of you FROM EXCRETION OF feces, or sexual contact with the women, and could not find water then you shall wipe your SELVES with clean soil. God is Pardoning, Forgiving.
The word for "ablution" is nowhere in the scripture.
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peace mz,
Clearly, 'come from the toilet' fits better than 'did (past tense) a thing from the toilet' although both imply the same thing, imho.
Br.you do need to check the translations of words yourself
If you clicked on the link, you will have seen this is exactly what I did. I would also add, that one needs to check the grammar of words to understand the meanings therein.
Wakas
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Salaams Waqas,
come one of you from a toilet or you had a sexual contact (with) women but did not you find water do tayammum earth clean and rub therewith your selves and your hands Indeed Allah is pardoning All-forgiving.............To me its the same as before .
Bye.
